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Thread: The GPU Thread
Let's be fair, given how many years it's been, how VRAM hungry games are now, and the exorbitant prices they're charging, I'd say 24GB is what the 5080 and the 5070ti should be packing, with the 5080ti getting 32GB down the road.
Round that out with the 5060/ti at 12GB/16GB, and the 5050/ti at 8GB/12GB, and I'd say that's where we SHOULD be currently.
I mean I still worry the new 3GB VRAM chips will just be used as a way to make cards with LESS VRAM. I'm honestly surprised the 5050 isn't packing only 6GB.
Mhm.
Seems like people are willing to pay 3.6k€ for a 5090 from an official store. A ZOTAC just dropped and was sold inside of 20 min.
Which was curious, because there are multiple cards at that price and lower listed on eBay, available for purchase for well over a week. But that ZOTAC appeared on the official Nvidia store, with a link to Case King, some people might be only checking that one wanting to buy from real stores.
Also strange, the price on the Nvidia store was around 3.6k but when you refreshed the page, it was 2.999€ for a second. On every refresh. Seems like that's the standard price in the system and the rest is being added afterwards.
Seems like people are willing to pay 3.6k€ for a 5090 from an official store. A ZOTAC just dropped and was sold inside of 20 min.
Which was curious, because there are multiple cards at that price and lower listed on eBay, available for purchase for well over a week. But that ZOTAC appeared on the official Nvidia store, with a link to Case King, some people might be only checking that one wanting to buy from real stores.
Also strange, the price on the Nvidia store was around 3.6k but when you refreshed the page, it was 2.999€ for a second. On every refresh. Seems like that's the standard price in the system and the rest is being added afterwards.
Another ZOTAC 5090 appeared, this time for 2.999€ and was immediately gone. Another 5090 for 3.2k.
I could buy a 5090 Gigabyte Phantom right now for 3.2k. but won't.
I have hopes that this will be my week! The MSI store put me into their system, I'll receive an automated email when supply is on the way, with an exact time it'll go online. After three weeks without supply, some cards should come in this week.
Please, Jensen, I want to be your path traced pay pig so badly.
I could buy a 5090 Gigabyte Phantom right now for 3.2k. but won't.
I have hopes that this will be my week! The MSI store put me into their system, I'll receive an automated email when supply is on the way, with an exact time it'll go online. After three weeks without supply, some cards should come in this week.
Please, Jensen, I want to be your path traced pay pig so badly.
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The weirdest thing about this situation is that there are all these AIB 5090 cards out but no reviews. Like, no review of the Gigabyte Phantom. From all the MSI cards, only a few reviews for the Suprim. I haven't seen a 5090 ZOTAC review.
You don't even know what you're buying. There are more reviews for the 5080 variants out, which share the cooling solution. But those are very different cards with widely different temperatures and load.
Yeah, let's pay 3.5k Euro for a product with no reviews and no impressions.
You don't even know what you're buying. There are more reviews for the 5080 variants out, which share the cooling solution. But those are very different cards with widely different temperatures and load.
Yeah, let's pay 3.5k Euro for a product with no reviews and no impressions.
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Going to try and overclock the 5080 tonight. Hopefully I will get a decent overclock with this card
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I wonder if Blackwell is broken in someway with some horrible bug. The perf gains across the lower tier cards don't even justify the existence of those cards. Nvidia could have just milked the previous generation and saved the effort of putting this out there.
Still haven't seen a 5080 I want to buy, newegg had some available but I'm not paying almost 1600.
Still haven't seen a 5080 I want to buy, newegg had some available but I'm not paying almost 1600.
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This 5080 seems like an overclocking beast! I got the core clock 450+ and so far no crashes on the 3Dmark benches I've tried. Going to try Cyberpunk and Monster Hunter benchmarks and see if it's stable then mess with memory clock tomorrow
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And here are some benchmarks after overclocking the 5080 to 450+ core clock
Cyberpunk with Path Tracing:
No Path Tracing:
My previous results at Stock:
Cyberpunk with Path Tracing:
No Path Tracing:
My previous results at Stock:
And here are some benchmarks after overclocking the 5080 to 450+ core clock
Cyberpunk with Path Tracing:
No Path Tracing:
My previous results at Stock:
Nice improvement in MH Wilds going from 78 to 87, that's a significant boost. How are your temperatures under load?
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Overclocked the memory clock to 1000+ and got some significant gains in CyberPunk Path Tracing
Path Tracing:
No Path Tracing:
Monster Hunter Wilds was only 1 fps difference lol
I can probably push it more but I think I'm good where I'm at now
Path Tracing:
No Path Tracing:
Monster Hunter Wilds was only 1 fps difference lol
I can probably push it more but I think I'm good where I'm at now
Overclocked the memory clock to 1000+ and got some significant gains in CyberPunk Path Tracing
Path Tracing:
No Path Tracing:
Monster Hunter Wilds was only 1 fps difference lol
I can probably push it more but I think I'm good where I'm at now
53 to 66fps only by memory OC? Damn son, nice. I didn't realize the 5080 had that much potential. Seems like you also won the chip lottery.
Seeing a lot of positivity around the AMD cards, and FSR3 especially. High demand, some cool designs, tech social media persons being on board.
While it is really good, I feel like people are somewhat over-enthusiastic because we're all cheering for AMD and against Ngreedia.
The way I see it for AMD:
+ Less unattractive pricing, way better value proposition than the 5070
+ Great positioning in the market
+ Raster performance basically reaching one price tier higher
+ Good and reliable designs, no melting cables
+ Finally, passable to good RT performance in general and in most use cases
+ Finally, an awesome image reconstruction solution. FSR3 rocks
+ VRAM!!!!!!!
- some weirdness with the OC potential
- still lagging behind in RT, especially when it gets complex with multiple effects or path tracing, performance crumbles significantly
- no ray reconstruction, meaning the high-end showcase games like path traced Indiana Jones or Cyberpunk aren't possible. AMD is working on a solution but it doesn't look good yet from what they've shown. Will take more time.
- overall ecosystem is worse, Nvidia has better latency reduction with Reflex, better frame gen if wanted, strong features in the Nvidia App like the very good auto HDR
- FSR3 availability is very limited. Nvidia offers the new DLSS version for old cards as well and it's available for a large library of games. FSR3 is only available on the new cards and in a few games. AMD started to use a .dll for FSR pretty late in the game, in most games you can't inject the new FSR3, you're stuck with the ultra fugly FSR2. That's a significant gap in favor of Nvidia, majority of games is FSR2 vs the new DLSS model. Those are universes apart.
AMD caught up quite a bit in the most important features and deserves huge respect for that, they're on a great track. But once the enthusiasm settles a bit and you look at the pros and cons, it's not like going with AMD is a no brainer. They beat the super bad 5070 and there's barely an argument to buy the 5070 vs the AMD cards. Once the 5070ti prices normalize, the decision won't be as clear anymore. Pay a bit more but get closer to the high end and get all the Nvidia stuff. 9070XT is still a strong option, especially for that price, but it gets more competitive and it's not like everything is great with AMD.
(btw. It's week three of no 5090 cards in the MSI store. Alternate.de got a few ZOTAC cards and a bunch of 3.5k Gainward Phantom ones.)
While it is really good, I feel like people are somewhat over-enthusiastic because we're all cheering for AMD and against Ngreedia.
The way I see it for AMD:
+ Less unattractive pricing, way better value proposition than the 5070
+ Great positioning in the market
+ Raster performance basically reaching one price tier higher
+ Good and reliable designs, no melting cables
+ Finally, passable to good RT performance in general and in most use cases
+ Finally, an awesome image reconstruction solution. FSR3 rocks
+ VRAM!!!!!!!
- some weirdness with the OC potential
- still lagging behind in RT, especially when it gets complex with multiple effects or path tracing, performance crumbles significantly
- no ray reconstruction, meaning the high-end showcase games like path traced Indiana Jones or Cyberpunk aren't possible. AMD is working on a solution but it doesn't look good yet from what they've shown. Will take more time.
- overall ecosystem is worse, Nvidia has better latency reduction with Reflex, better frame gen if wanted, strong features in the Nvidia App like the very good auto HDR
- FSR3 availability is very limited. Nvidia offers the new DLSS version for old cards as well and it's available for a large library of games. FSR3 is only available on the new cards and in a few games. AMD started to use a .dll for FSR pretty late in the game, in most games you can't inject the new FSR3, you're stuck with the ultra fugly FSR2. That's a significant gap in favor of Nvidia, majority of games is FSR2 vs the new DLSS model. Those are universes apart.
AMD caught up quite a bit in the most important features and deserves huge respect for that, they're on a great track. But once the enthusiasm settles a bit and you look at the pros and cons, it's not like going with AMD is a no brainer. They beat the super bad 5070 and there's barely an argument to buy the 5070 vs the AMD cards. Once the 5070ti prices normalize, the decision won't be as clear anymore. Pay a bit more but get closer to the high end and get all the Nvidia stuff. 9070XT is still a strong option, especially for that price, but it gets more competitive and it's not like everything is great with AMD.
(btw. It's week three of no 5090 cards in the MSI store. Alternate.de got a few ZOTAC cards and a bunch of 3.5k Gainward Phantom ones.)
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From what I'm reading, it seems like the 5080s were heavily underclocked. Many of these cards are reaching 3100 mhz easily.
So back when they started the sign up sheet on Nvidia for the chance to buy a 5090 I put my name on there. Randomly got picked today and my founders edition will be here in 2 days fellas! Pray for me that my house doesn't burn down lol
Yoooooooo. Your boi snagged one. I'm now as cool as @Hostile_18 it'll arrive early next week. The site refresh like a maniac journey is finally over. And it's one of the more quiet and better cooled ones, so that'll fit nicely into the rest of my build.
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Yoooooooo. Your boi snagged one. I'm now as cool as @Hostile_18 it'll arrive early next week. The site refresh like a maniac journey is finally over. And it's one of the more quiet and better cooled ones, so that'll fit nicely into the rest of my build.
Sweeet and a good model as well, same one as me!
How much did you pay? When I ordered mine it was a little bit more than buying locally, but now all the prices have massively gone up in the UK, I feel like I got a good deal lol.
The difference from your 3080 will be INSANE.
Yeah that's the shameful part. I paid 3.1k€ at an official store and I'm sure prices will come down in the coming weeks. But fuck it, I want that thing in my new build and the 3080 is actively bothering me.
I already took quick and short benchmarks with my 3080 to compare them later in the following games/apps:
- 3D Mark
- RoboCop Rogue City
- Avatar
- Final Fantasy 16
- Monster Hunter Wilds
- A Plague Tale Requiem
- Atomic Heart
Will also do a Cyberpunk run, obligatory.
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Pretty much the same price as me. It's worth paying a bit extra to get a good model and more quickly (it runs cooler and quieter than fe and most models). The jump from 3080 to 4090 was massive for me, so I can only imagine what this jump will be.
It's great NEVER having to worry about settings. You need to use your 4k screen more now!
Pretty much the same price as me. It's worth paying a bit extra to get a good model and more quickly (it runs cooler and quieter than fe and most models). The jump from 3080 to 4090 was massive for me, so I can only imagine what this jump will be.
It's great NEVER having to worry about settings. You need to use your 4k screen more now!
Nah man, 3440x1440 at 165fps is where it's at.
I went full retard with a low noise build, want to achieve the most silent PC that I can, see my posts in the PC thread. How's the fan noise with this model went undervolting?
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Honestly there's no solid reviews on the Trio 5090 yet. It has the same fans as the Suprim, which are excellent. Given its a 600w card (575w through wire) I'm expecting 30db under full load. This video may help, just bear in mind oddly, he isn't using any fans on the base, which will substantially help IMO.
Yeah it has a silent mode, I'll go with that one first and then see if I even have to undervolt it tbh.
My case is so huge, it'll have a ton of space with a lot of fresh air. The card is 359mm long, max length for my case is an insane 495mm. And I'm using water cooling on the CPU, more than enough free space in there.
Gonna be epic. Hopefully. It'll be so quiet that I can fully enjoy the coil wine.
Btw. I don't really like the visual design of that card. Gigabyte and Asus cards look way better, ZOTAC as well. This one is just super boring, a dumb ass block with fans that look like they've been just slapped on. And the cringe dragon lol
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I actually think its the best looking of all the cards, it will go perfect with my MSI motherboard that also has a Dragon on it! Don't under estimate the extra performance a dragon gives you.
Shout out to MSI, they're great.
I contacted their store about the 5090. They kept informing me about upcoming drops, which was nice Now I received an email from them that because of the high demand, they're now approaching customers for pre-order slots for the upcoming supply drop next week, to have a fair process. You can tell them the model you want, they'll give you the price before it drops, you can opt in or out. There'll be a queue.
I already have one and the prices haven't been much lower in their store than what I paid, so there's no point in me taking the offer other than scalping, which I won't do.
I contacted their store about the 5090. They kept informing me about upcoming drops, which was nice Now I received an email from them that because of the high demand, they're now approaching customers for pre-order slots for the upcoming supply drop next week, to have a fair process. You can tell them the model you want, they'll give you the price before it drops, you can opt in or out. There'll be a queue.
I already have one and the prices haven't been much lower in their store than what I paid, so there's no point in me taking the offer other than scalping, which I won't do.
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Avowed made my 4090 want to die. 4080 at 1440p in my office was lot smoother. UE5 is such a fucking fatty.
Btw there's like one review article out there for the MSI 5090 Gaming Trio OC, on some German site that doesn't even compare it to any other 5090.
This shit is crazy.
This shit is crazy.
@Hostile_18 how did you connect the 5090? I have a high-end PSU with a dedicated 600W connector.... Should I just use that? Or is there a special cable delivered with the GPU that I should rather use?
I want my eyes to melt, not my connector.
I want my eyes to melt, not my connector.
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I would use the 600w 12V-2x6 cable that came with your BeQuiet PSU rather than using the adapter from the GPU. The adapter would just introduce more connection failure points versus using the single cable. The adapters are for people with older PSUs that only have 8 pin GPU/PCIe support.
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Yep just single cable into the gpu. No need for adapter. Make sure no yellow part of the connector showing.
When I get mine this month I'll also be undervolting and over clocking it. Not for heat concerns but just to get it running cooler, quieter and more efficient.
I'll be intrested to know your impressions when you get it, since it's the same model I will be getting unless Amazon cancel it. The prices of the Trios have shot up massively in the last week here in the UK. Nearly all retailers starting the listing at 2.7k. A bunch just went on pre order for 3.1k to arrive end of March and they went within a few hours and a minute of a popular app pointing it out (that's pounds not euros as well, convert to your horror).
When I get mine this month I'll also be undervolting and over clocking it. Not for heat concerns but just to get it running cooler, quieter and more efficient.
I'll be intrested to know your impressions when you get it, since it's the same model I will be getting unless Amazon cancel it. The prices of the Trios have shot up massively in the last week here in the UK. Nearly all retailers starting the listing at 2.7k. A bunch just went on pre order for 3.1k to arrive end of March and they went within a few hours and a minute of a popular app pointing it out (that's pounds not euros as well, convert to your horror).
I have to look back through my cables that came with my Thor to see what to do lol