Thread: PlayStation 5 Pro Review Thread
Of course you do.

But in the timespan between PS5 and PS5 pro this hasn't been needed yet.

If you already had decent hardware the price is equivalent to both PS5 and pro, and it's a way better product performance wise.

Saying pc gaming is more expensive is just arrogance and misinformation. Which is what I am trying to point out.

I don't like this narrative.

Console gaming is for poor people, we shouldn't compare it to the PCMR. Why even go down to budget laptop hardware. It's just sad.

Fuck price comparisons with these poor people products.

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I don't like this narrative.

Console gaming is for poor people, we shouldn't compare it to the PCMR. Why even go down to budget laptop hardware. It's just sad.

Fuck price comparisons with these poor people products.

$2.000 RTX5090 LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO FRAME RATES GO BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

I got an end game rig for 1500 euro. So that is just pure stupidity spread by console players to fit their narrative.
 
I got an end game rig for 1500 euro. So that is just pure stupidity spread by console players to fit their narrative.

I was joking around a bit. Except for the part about consoles being for poor people. Poor people suck, we should outlaw them and those cheap ass consoles.
 
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I was joking around a bit. Except the part about consoles being for poor people. Poor people suck, we should outlaw them and those cheap ass consoles.

Computer gaming in general is pretty cheap compared to other hobbies.

Look at hardball and Warhammer. A vehicle easily costs the same as a brand new console game.

A low entry hardball gun costs around 200 euro. At least in my country.
 
Seems to be selling in line with the PS4 Pro in ratio to the base console.

It's literally just a Pro console yet people are losing their shit over it. I don't get it but if that's what fascinates PC gamers, have at it.

Firstly, it's selling worse than the PS4 Pro. Secondly, you're literally just making shit up. No one is "losing their shit" over it. No one is "fascinated" by it.

People, including PS gamers, are criticising it, and rightfully so. It's funny you calling other people insecure when the reality is, you're the one who is insecure because people are criticising something you like. Why do you care?
 
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Firstly, it's selling worse than the PS4 Pro. Secondly, you're literally just making shit up. No one is "losing their shit" over it. No one is "fascinated" by it.

People, including PS gamers, are criticising it, and rightfully so. It's funny you calling other people insecure when the reality is, you're the one who is insecure because people are criticising something you like. Why do you care?

I would ask PC gamers the same question. Why do you care? Half the thread is full of snide comments like "for only triple the price, why not just get a PC?! Haha console gamers amirite?"

No disc drive means no buy for me, which I admitted months ago. I'm not defending the Pro because I own it. I'm defending the Pro because some of the "criticisms" are dumb.
 
I would ask PC gamers the same question. Why do you care? Half the thread is full of snide comments like "for only triple the price, why not just get a PC?! Haha console gamers amirite?"

No disc drive means no buy for me, which I admitted months ago. I'm not defending the Pro because I own it. I'm defending the Pro because some of the "criticisms" are dumb.

Fair enough. You generally seem like a good egg.

That said, you don't have to care about something to criticise it. I own a PS5. I owned a PS4 Pro. My honest opinion is I think the PS5 Pro is dumb. Doesn't mean I give a shit about it either way. My opinion certainly shouldn't upset you. We're just shooting the shit on a forum.

I like death metal. A lot of people will tell you it's unlistenable dreck. Doesn't bother me in the slightest, and I won't try to convince them they're wrong.

I do occasionally troll in this thread but that's just to offset Regawdless and his unbridled enthusiasm, and my trolling posts are pretty obvious.
 
More PC gamers are talking about the "bad value" of the PS5 Pro than PlayStation gamers.

I guess insecurity comes in many forms.

Insecurity about what? I have a PS5 sitting above my computer on my desk. I've bought more PS games for my PC than I have my PS5. The PS5 is a good system, haven't used the pro yet but playing the games on my PC has just been a much better experience for me. Doesn't mean I hate my PS5.
 
I recently bought a couple of PS5 Pros for my son and me. Seems cool enough so far, but we didn't have PS5/PS4s and I'm not really price sensitive at all, so I'm probably not the best arbiter of value. I honestly wouldn't mind getting a nice fat PC gaming rig, because I used to be into it, but I'd want to build it myself, get all into the upgrades, make them myself etc, and I don't really have time for all that at the moment. Some day!
 
The Pro is just a really nice unit tbh. And the disc drive attachment is more quiet than the launch system in my experience.

And it plays everything better. Pretty hard to get personally upset about lol
 
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The Pro is just a really nice unit tbh. And the disc drive attachment is more quiet than the launch system in my experience.

And it plays everything better. Pretty hard to get personally upset about lol

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Anyone else playing Black Ops 6 on the pro? While generally speaking it's a very good looking game, there's a ton of "shimmering" artifacts or like, flashing pixels or skme shit? It's everywhere, kinda distracting. From what I've read it's an issue with pssr? Anyone else notice this nonsense?
 
Anyone else playing Black Ops 6 on the pro? While generally speaking it's a very good looking game, there's a ton of "shimmering" artifacts or like, flashing pixels or skme shit? It's everywhere, kinda distracting. From what I've read it's an issue with pssr? Anyone else notice this nonsense?

Devs apparently already fixed it, the patch is currently going though quality and testing. Shouldn't take too long to be released.
 
Devs apparently already fixed it, the patch is currently going though quality and testing. Shouldn't take too long to be released.

Thank fuck, cause it's kinda brutal. I know there's a big patch coming tomorrow, I wonder if it'll be part of that? It's a pretty damn impressive looking game not gonna lie. It appears there's some sort of global illumination happening. Obviously not path traced, and probably not even basic bitch ray traced global illumination? I dunno, but the effect looks fantastic..

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Edit -- turns out it's a rasterized screen space global illumination technique?

Next along, and more remarkably, there's the improved global illumination. Specifically, a screen-space GI method is added just for PS5 Pro, simulating light bounce between surfaces. This SSGI setting is something the team is especially proud of, as a rasterised technique that attempts to mimic the quality of path tracing. It's calibrated to create as comparable a result to the team's internal, path traced reference, though obviously at a fraction of the cost. This also extends to the way ambient shade is implemented. With the improved SSAO on Pro, there's a richer bed of shade added to the scene - and most interior shots like the headquarters - creating a more life-like final frame.
 
Thank fuck, cause it's kinda brutal. I know there's a big patch coming tomorrow, I wonder if it'll be part of that? It's a pretty damn impressive looking game not gonna lie. It appears there's some sort of global illumination happening. Obviously not path traced, and probably not even basic bitch ray traced global illumination? I dunno, but the effect looks fantastic..

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Edit -- turns out it's a rasterized screen space global illumination technique?

There's a good new video from Digital Foundry about their tech, they visited the devs. They did a great job.
 
Every time I somehow talk myself in to trying out a COD campaign, it starts with me being like wow this looks kinda fucking fantastic - and ends with me saying wow this is the most boring and pointless videogame I've ever played lol
 
Every time I somehow talk myself in to trying out a COD campaign, it starts with me being like wow this looks kinda fucking fantastic - and ends with me saying wow this is the most boring and pointless videogame I've ever played lol

I find them fun enough in their own right I guess, tbh i typically just use them to get into the groove of how it all plays, the setting etc. Can't wait to jump into multiplayer, I've got one buddy with the game to team up with so that's decent I guess. The rest of the time it'll be lone wolf 💪
 
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I find them fun enough in their own right I guess, tbh i typically just use them to get into the groove of how it all plays, the setting etc. Can't wait to jump into multiplayer, I've got one buddy with the game to team up with so that's decent I guess. The rest of the time it'll be lone wolf 💪

Enjoy playing the most rigged multiplayer game on the market. Sorry, I ruined it for Grinchy, so I have to ruin it for you, too.
 
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Enjoy playing the most rigged multiplayer game on the market. Sorry, I ruined it for Grinchy, so I have to ruin it for you, too.

It's ok, I have over 100 hours in the MP already lol

I already got incredibly annoyed with the old SBMM and this new shit is still annoying as hell sometimes. Like it'll put me up against a team all wearing their diamond ranked skins...in a casual mode...and I'm like there's no way my old ass is supposed to be in this lobby
 
It's ok, I have over 100 hours in the MP already lol

I already got incredibly annoyed with the old SBMM and this new shit is still annoying as hell sometimes. Like it'll put me up against a team all wearing their diamond ranked skins...in a casual mode...and I'm like there's no way my old ass is supposed to be in this lobby

You're supposed to become seething and buy a bunch of pay to win skins in order to get them back. Don't let the sweats win!!
 
You're supposed to become seething and buy a bunch of pay to win skins in order to get them back. Don't let the sweats win!!

Haha jokes on them, I never buy that Nush-y nonsense. Shit, I've played gtav online for like, 17 years and haven't spent a single penny on a shark card. I'm the enemy of these companies HAHA
 
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You're supposed to become seething and buy a bunch of pay to win skins in order to get them back. Don't let the sweats win!!

What's crazy is I bought BLOPS4 and got COD points that I never used, until I bought some battlepass in the next one. Then that battlepass gave me more COD points. And then something else gave me more. So I bought a new battlepass for this new COD and have enough points to buy the next one. I never put any extra money in.

With all those extra skins, I should be winning every game and I'm not!
 
It's ok, I have over 100 hours in the MP already lol

I already got incredibly annoyed with the old SBMM and this new shit is still annoying as hell sometimes. Like it'll put me up against a team all wearing their diamond ranked skins...in a casual mode...and I'm like there's no way my old ass is supposed to be in this lobby

So I've got a bunch of hours in on Black Ops 6 and it appears this is the new Black Ops 6 thread cause why not. Overall, I'm having a blast. It's just fun to play. Everything feels so good, so smooth. Guns are chunky. The game modes are fun. If I was buying cod every single year or if I was a hardcore lunatic about the game maybe my opinion would be different but for someone just fuckin around it's a blast not gonna lie.

I'm probably shielded from everything people bitch about cause I just am not that involved? It's a game i dunno, I'm just not that emotionally invested into whether or not the ttk has been tweaked by a fraction of a second or whatever. I feel bad for people who are bothered by all this but stuff like omnimovement, to me, makes the game so fun. Diving around corners, sliding into a capture area. It's cool af. The violence is on point too.

The biggest complaint I have is how the game can just be so goofy looking. I'm used to old school call of duty games where it's all military shit and earlier I was killed by a guy who was wearing a pink frilly tutu with a gun that splattered paint everywhere? The fuck is this nonsense? I get why they did it, make money off chumps who would pay for this garish shit but it was offputting. Though, to be fair, that's my biggest "complaint" and it's something that has a tiny impact on the actual game. Kinda speaks volumes to how well the rest of the package is put together.
 
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So I've got a bunch of hours in on Black Ops 6 and it appears this is the new Black Ops 6 thread cause why not. Overall, I'm having a blast. It's just fun to play. Everything feels so good, so smooth. Guns are chunky. The game modes are fun. If I was buying cod every single year or if I was a hardcore lunatic about the game maybe my opinion would be different but for someone just fuckin around it's a blast not gonna lie.

I'm probably shielded from everything people bitch about cause I just am not that involved? It's a game i dunno, I'm just not that emotionally invested into whether or not the ttk has been tweaked by a fraction of a second or whatever. I feel bad for people who are bothered by all this but stuff like omnimovement, to me, makes the game so fun. Diving around corners, sliding into a capture area. It's cool af. The violence is on point too.

The biggest complaint I have is how the game can just be so goofy looking. I'm used to old school call of duty games where it's all military shit and earlier I was killed by a guy who was wearing a pink frilly tutu with a gun that splattered paint everywhere? The fuck is this nonsense? I get why they did it, make money off chumps who would pay for this garish shit but it was offputting. Though, to be fair, that's my biggest "complaint" and it's something that has a tiny impact on the actual game. Kinda speaks volumes to how well the rest of the package is put together.
Basically, it's fun until you're 1st place every game, and then it moves you up secretly, and then suddenly you're last place every game and it feels like every casual match is a qualifier for a big tournament.

As long as you never look that good to the system, you get to play fun matches with kids.