[prag16]

Slightly but as I said in my posts Star Wars is close to a dead IP and might even be toxic.
Its not popular. No one talks about star wars. No one buys star wars merch. After the last 2 movies and Disney+ shows the IP has gone back to the dark days.

Maybe in certain internet echo chambers, but what I see anecdotally out on the street, in stores, through family/friends/etc, this may not be the case. People still like Star Wars. Lots of kids still like Star Wars, so it's not JUST nostalgia driven.

But Disney still done fucked up, and they're on MUCH thinner ice than they used to be, that's for sure.

 

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Maybe in certain internet echo chambers, but what I see anecdotally out on the street, in stores, through family/friends/etc, this may not be the case. People still like Star Wars. Lots of kids still like Star Wars, so it's not JUST nostalgia driven.

But Disney still done fucked up, and they're on MUCH thinner ice than they used to be, that's for sure.

How many kids are fans of Star Wars that don't have parents that were already Star Wars fans? Disney probably figured out they can't independently attract kids to the SW brand, so they need to up the nostalgia content for the parents and get them to drag their kids into the fandom.

Anecdotally with my nieces, nephews, and friends' kids, there is very little interest in Star Wars at the moment. In the last 5 years, the only new Star Wars thing that seemed to organically attract the kids' interest was the Mando-Baby Yoda thing, but seemed to pass quickly.

 

[prag16]

How many kids are fans of Star Wars that don't have parents that were already Star Wars fans? Disney probably figured out they can't independently attract kids to the SW brand, so they need to up the nostalgia content for the parents and get them to drag their kids into the fandom.

Anecdotally with my nieces, nephews, and friends' kids, there is very little interest in Star Wars at the moment. In the last 5 years, the only new Star Wars thing that seemed to organically attract the kids' interest was the Mando-Baby Yoda thing, but seemed to pass quickly.

They're out there, kids who are fans organically. Maybe there would be more if Disney wasn't a bunch of asshats. And sure many are "intergenerational" fans so to speak where the parents facilitate it. Put my kids in the latter category I guess. Nevertheless I think it's premature to declare the death of the brand. But they're on the wrong road right now for sure.

 

[HellforLeather]

The damage to Star Wars has pretty much only happened under Disney's watch. The prequels hurt the brand but people were still mostly excited about it as an IP. Disney flooded the market with mostly slop and totally fumbled the sequel trilogy.

 

[prag16]

The damage to Star Wars has pretty much only happened under Disney's watch. The prequels hurt the brand but people were still mostly excited about it as an IP. Disney flooded the market with mostly slop and totally fumbled the sequel trilogy.

True. And honestly I'm not even sure if the prequels were a net detriment. Maybe for gen X and older millennials, but not for those who were younger that grew up with the prequels. And honestly with the benefit of hindsight the prequels weren't even that bad. They were a hell of a lot better than most of the Disney stuff (which isn't ALL bad mind you... Mando at times, Andor, Jedi games, Rogue One). If Disney had done a good job with the sequel trilogy, any other sins could have been forgiven. But they fucked it up royally.

 

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It's pretty wild to think about how much mindshare Star Wars has lost since releasing "The Force Awakens" to the current era "The Skeleton Crew" not even showing up on the streaming charts.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

The damage to Star Wars has pretty much only happened under Disney's watch. The prequels hurt the brand but people were still mostly excited about it as an IP. Disney flooded the market with mostly slop and totally fumbled the sequel trilogy.

The Prequels hurt the brand for old people like me, who watched the OG in cinema back in the day..

But for young lads, it was gold..
Countless kids watched Clone Wars, and loved those characters.

As much as I despise the prequels, I have to acknowledge that kids back in the day loved them.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Also, why is this character's design so bad? Just a black chick in a coat is the best they could manage? Remember all those crazy bounty hunter designs from the original trilogy for characters that had no dialogue and you never saw ever again? That type of effort seems to be completely dead in the Disney Star Wars

LOL.
That's just "generic black strong 2024 woman".
I am so tired of that trope.

 

[cryptoadam]

There was a lot of merch with the prequels. Clone wars was also very popular and tons of games.
Star wars was huge in the 80s of the backs of the OT. Basically made Kenner toys as a company. Then the Ewoks movie and TV show came out and Star Wars became something for Virgins and losers. It was a rung above Star Trek. There was even a mini feud between trekies and Star wars fans. The stigma was even around during the prequels go watch Triumph roast Star wars fans at the Premier.
It made a comeback with the prequels that Lucas monetized to hell and back. Star wars 1 to 3 the search for more money. Merchandising merchandising merchandising. But the prequels did leave a bad taste and the rise of geek culture and red letter media put a nail in the coffin of Star wars.
When Disney bought it most people were ecstatic and the frenzy was back with the first ST movie. Merch everywhere. BB8s out my ass. It was back. And then just like that KK killed the franchise with DEI and ever since episode 8 it's been downhill. Baby Yoda was a small blip on the radar like a dead cat bounce in crypto.
If it wasn't for Disney's need to milk the shit out of every IP they own it would be dead as a door nail. Like POG beanie babies and ALF. But Disney will keep trying and keep on trying to get boys to watch a woman's power fantasy.

 

[HellforLeather]

LOL.
That's just "generic black strong 2024 woman".
I am so tired of that trope.

Honestly, they dont even go that route. They tell you she's a tough bounty hunter but every time you see her, she's a fuck up. She's barely even in the game though; I kinda forgot about her while playing.

 

[regawdless]

So if I mod her to be less ugly, will I still die of cringe because the game is full of strong female girl bosses?

 

[HellforLeather]

So if I mod her to be less ugly, will I still die of cringe because the game is full of strong female girl bosses?

I dont think so. The trainers are mostly women but you really only talk to them once or twice and then never again. There is a way that Disney tends to portray women that makes them insufferable and I didnt quite get that feeling playing this game. Kay is never portrayed as the best/most smartest person in the room at any point that I can recall

 

[Phil_t98]

just started playing this, honestly don't think its that bad. its basically Star Wars assassins creed

 

[regawdless]

just started playing this, honestly don't think its that bad. its basically Star Wars assassins creed

I'll buy a cheap key when the price is right.... And when a miracle happens and it's possible to buy GPUs again. My 10GB 3080 is too weak to experience the game with all the bells and whistles.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Ich will buy it for 3 to 5 euros...

 

[regawdless]

This game looks fucking UNBELIEVABLE.

Running at 65-80fps on my 5090, in motion, God damn. It all looks very natural, detailed, convincing. Holy shit. Modded the main character though, she was crazy ugly, like playing it, it was actively distracting.

Either way. Easily one of the best looking games out there. Dude has crazy detailed RT reflections in his eyes.

 

[Bullet Club]

 

[regawdless]

Damn she's ugly. God bless PC gaming, modding her face saved the game for me.

 

[teezzy]

Not super far in (15 hours), but it's like Star Wars Red Dead Redemption 2 with Ubisoft open world Assassins Creed jank - I'm loving every second of it

Takes me back to playing KotOR and Deus Ex: Invisible War on my original Xbox as a teen. Especially with all the politicking between factions, etc. Those were arguably the best gaming years of my life!

Just having a blast, man. Don't see Kay as ugly? She looks pretty normal to me. Love the whole protagonist 'in over their head' thing when done right, as it is here

Game looks gorgeous, even on my 3090. Just fully absorbing, and I'm loving all the little mini-games, etc. Lots of clever things here - Sabacc is as fun as Gwent, or even Tetra Master from Final Fantasy 9

Not doing anything new, but it's more than competent in every way it needs to be, and the Star Wars universe is one I could spend a lifetime in. Give me a speeder over a horse any day

 

[Hinedorf]

Not super far in (15 hours), but it's like Star Wars Red Dead Redemption 2 with Ubisoft open world Assassins Creed jank - I'm loving every second of it

Takes me back to playing KotOR and Deus Ex: Invisible War on my original Xbox as a teen. Especially with all the politicking between factions, etc. Those were arguably the best gaming years of my life!

Just having a blast, man. Don't see Kay as ugly? She looks pretty normal to me. Love the whole protagonist 'in over their head' thing when done right, as it is here

Game looks gorgeous, even on my 3090. Just fully absorbing, and I'm loving all the little mini-games, etc. Lots of clever things here - Sabacc is as fun as Gwent, or even Tetra Master from Final Fantasy 9

Not doing anything new, but it's more than competent in every way it needs to be, and the Star Wars universe is one I could spend a lifetime in. Give me a speeder over a horse any day

Nice, I thought about spending a month of UBI + to try the new AC and this but haven't yet

 

[regawdless]

Not super far in (15 hours), but it's like Star Wars Red Dead Redemption 2 with Ubisoft open world Assassins Creed jank - I'm loving every second of it

Takes me back to playing KotOR and Deus Ex: Invisible War on my original Xbox as a teen. Especially with all the politicking between factions, etc. Those were arguably the best gaming years of my life!

Just having a blast, man. Don't see Kay as ugly? She looks pretty normal to me. Love the whole protagonist 'in over their head' thing when done right, as it is here

Game looks gorgeous, even on my 3090. Just fully absorbing, and I'm loving all the little mini-games, etc. Lots of clever things here - Sabacc is as fun as Gwent, or even Tetra Master from Final Fantasy 9

Not doing anything new, but it's more than competent in every way it needs to be, and the Star Wars universe is one I could spend a lifetime in. Give me a speeder over a horse any day

Kay is ugly and her face is super weird rat like in many scenes. It's also a heavily feminized version of Star Wars, kinda forced tbh. But overall competent game, they improved the mechanics a lot after launch. Also, visual upgrade dropped with improved ray reconstruction etc. I like the exploration, so much to find and to discover in each location.

Game is looking freaking great.

 

[regawdless]

Went to another planet... and it's even more of a pure female power fantasy, it's all chicks, and unfortunately not really interesting ones. Getting tired of everyone being a girl boss, and they're literally all girl bosses. Sigh.

 

[teezzy]

regawdless needs more femdoms in his life

 

[regawdless]

Had to rescue some thief guy from a super legendary pirate. Who turns out to be a girl boss, of course. Stole her key card to get the dude. Open the door, dude says "Did my boyfriend send you? He's quite the worrier!"

I'll just mainline the story to see the other locations and then be done with this game.

 

[teezzy]

Had to rescue some thief guy from a super legendary pirate. Who turns out to be a girl boss, of course. Stole her key card to get the dude. Open the door, dude says "Did my boyfriend send you? He's quite the worrier!"

I'll just mainline the story to see the other locations and then be done with this game.

Y'know, I dont think I'd even notice the amount of prominent female characters had you not pointed it out. It's not like Gorak or Jabba are chicks.

With that said, been having fun dog-fighting in the ship. It's a refreshing change of pace from all the exploration stealth pew pew stuff. Been aligning heavily with Crimson Dawn to the point of grenading my reputation with the other syndicates. Think I'll have to correct that.

 

[teezzy]

This game looks fucking UNBELIEVABLE.

Running at 65-80fps on my 5090, in motion, God damn. It all looks very natural, detailed, convincing. Holy shit. Modded the main character though, she was crazy ugly, like playing it, it was actively distracting.

Either way. Easily one of the best looking games out there. Dude has crazy detailed RT reflections in his eyes.

Dude, this looks so fucking good

Don't you dare make me buy a 5080

 

[Zefah]

This game looks fucking UNBELIEVABLE.

Running at 65-80fps on my 5090, in motion, God damn. It all looks very natural, detailed, convincing. Holy shit. Modded the main character though, she was crazy ugly, like playing it, it was actively distracting.

Either way. Easily one of the best looking games out there. Dude has crazy detailed RT reflections in his eyes.

Looking good. I definitely want to pick this up on a deep sale or check it out if it ever comes to Game Pass.

 

[HeresJohnny]

Had to rescue some thief guy from a super legendary pirate. Who turns out to be a girl boss, of course. Stole her key card to get the dude. Open the door, dude says "Did my boyfriend send you? He's quite the worrier!"

I'll just mainline the story to see the other locations and then be done with this game.

ROFLMAO

You play with matches you get burned my brother.

 

[regawdless]

Y'know, I dont think I'd even notice the amount of prominent female characters had you not pointed it out. It's not like Gorak or Jabba are chicks.

With that said, been having fun dog-fighting in the ship. It's a refreshing change of pace from all the exploration stealth pew pew stuff. Been aligning heavily with Crimson Dawn to the point of grenading my reputation with the other syndicates. Think I'll have to correct that.

I started noticing that it felt like the Imperium had a female quota, which just felt off. Female Storm Troopers, Commanders etc. this is a strong militarized force where it feels out of place and it wasn't like that in the original movies.

It's nothing totally egregious, but I was running through the world and every place is the same diverse population, it's all so perfectly balanced to please the representation crows, many females, people of color, in every location. Design by NPC identity group quotas. Just something I noticed and found kinda boring, perfect diversity all over the galaxy.

The reputation system is one big letdown. I went with Crimson Dawn because of the cool reward, that outfit is the best. But it's all meaningless outside of those rewards. Nothing matters, you lose some rep you gain some, but you can keep good with all of them if you do some contracts. Either way doesn't impact the story or decisions or anything so far, only that you can move through their areas. I'd like to go full on Crimson Dawn tbh but it's all very limited and shallow.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Just played the demo on my Series S.
I am now in some bunker, and cannot find the next thing to solve the mission.

And I feel I cannot be arsed to look up where it is online.
Guess Ubi games are not for me.

 

[regawdless]

Just played the demo on my Series S.
I am now in some bunker, and cannot find the next thing to solve the mission.

And I feel I cannot be arsed to look up where it is online.
Guess Ubi games are not for me.

Hold the "up" button on the dpad, it reveals where you need to go and what to do, usually.

 

[teezzy]

I just wanna bag a Twi'lek baddie

 

[Neil Young]

Had to rescue some thief guy from a super legendary pirate. Who turns out to be a girl boss, of course. Stole her key card to get the dude. Open the door, dude says "Did my boyfriend send you? He's quite the worrier!"

I'll just mainline the story to see the other locations and then be done with this game.

I think the game is fine but it's littered with this shit. And every female is ugly as fuck. And Kay is horrendous looking. They went out of their way to try to make her ugly while still trying to be somewhat attractive and this abomination was the result. She looks uncanny unless she's supposed to be an alien race.

Avatar, while also being a fine game that is gorgeous, suffers from the same thing. Ugly girl bosses everywhere who, as an added bonus, speak in the annoying zoomer dialect.

 

[regawdless]

I think the game is fine but it's littered with this shit. And every female is ugly as fuck. And Kay is horrendous looking. They went out of their way to try to make her ugly while still trying to be somewhat attractive and this abomination was the result. She looks uncanny unless she's supposed to be an alien race.

Avatar, while also being a fine game that is gorgeous, suffers from the same thing. Ugly girl bosses everywhere who, as an added bonus, speak in the annoying zoomer dialect.

Avatar looks beautiful but the writing was horrible, heavy handed, kinda cringe. I need to revisit the game, only played the intro because I put it on hold till I got my new GPU.

Outlaws is a competently made, but shallow game. Facial expressions of the main character are really strange at times. I'm mostly disappointed in the forgettable writing and the boring characters. Kay is flat, her relationship with her pet is boring, there is nothing. They have a few mini games that show a bit of personality but there's no soul. And because no decisions matter, the dialogues with other main NPCs also don't matter.

 

[teezzy]

 

[regawdless]

Btw this is the real gameplay

 

[Mickmrly]

Btw this is the real gameplay

That stormtrooper had to wait until it was her turn. Those are the rules of RPGs.

 

[teezzy]

Btw this is the real gameplay

lmmmaaaaooooooooooo

 

[HeresJohnny]

Btw this is the real gameplay

Seeing a woman slap helmeted stormtroopers senseless is the most fucking wank off girl boss Kathleen Kennedy trash I've ever seen. FML

 

[DonDonDonPata]

Seeing a woman slap helmeted stormtroopers senseless is the most fucking wank off girl boss Kathleen Kennedy trash I've ever seen. FML

Based on actual historic Star Wars events though