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Thread: I'm gonna be a Star Wars boy
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I've actually only ever owned the OG trilogy. Had the VHS and then the DVD box sets
I find all the movies cool and have no interest in Disney Plus so this is a good ebay find for me
Can't wait for these to ship
Definitely a limit on what you can extract in this case but doesn't mean they won't look better when released on 4K media, even just because there'll be a better codec used with less artifacts and HDR may improve the contrast of the image making it be perceived as sharper.
Like if I show the exact same 4K video on a 4K entry level LCD and a 4K OLED it looks sharper on the OLED because of the contrast increase, among other things.
Phantom Menace was shot on film as well, only the 2nd and 3rd were shot in digital. Although the CGI of TPM is limited to whatever resolution they mastered it in so that's another issue.
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well certainly find that fan remaster so you get the original scenes they editted out of the vhs tapes.
QuantumZebra
It’s just basic anatomy
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On a rewatch of everything with my family.
Takeaways:
1. Prequel trilogy is definitely the worst. Still. The dialogue and some scenes are painfully cringe. My kids were outright bored at times.
2. Original trilogy is definitely the best. More gravity, better acting, better dialogue, universe feels "lived-in" and real.
3. Sequel trilogy is solidly in the middle. Nowhere near as bad as some folks act like it is. Also nowhere near as good as it could have been after TFA. The transition from TLJ to RoS is jarring. If they were on the same page the ST could easily rival the OT. Also TLJ is nowhere near as bad as folks acted like it was. If they stuck to it then the ST could still have been great overall.
Also the Disney output is nowhere near as bad as folks act. Bad Batch, Andor, etc. are fantastic.
Takeaways:
1. Prequel trilogy is definitely the worst. Still. The dialogue and some scenes are painfully cringe. My kids were outright bored at times.
2. Original trilogy is definitely the best. More gravity, better acting, better dialogue, universe feels "lived-in" and real.
3. Sequel trilogy is solidly in the middle. Nowhere near as bad as some folks act like it is. Also nowhere near as good as it could have been after TFA. The transition from TLJ to RoS is jarring. If they were on the same page the ST could easily rival the OT. Also TLJ is nowhere near as bad as folks acted like it was. If they stuck to it then the ST could still have been great overall.
Also the Disney output is nowhere near as bad as folks act. Bad Batch, Andor, etc. are fantastic.
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Couldn't agree more. Episode 9 was very much a 'film by committee' with an unfocused plot and little to no room for decipherable pacing. Such an unfortunate end to the Skywalker Saga as a whole. I absolutely loved both TFA and TLJ however. It felt rushed in every way imaginable and made very little sense in regards to how the sequel trilogy was panning out based on the two films prior. Shame things turned out the way they did.
Calcium
Stupid Spoiled Whore
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They couldn't release the entire saga with the same box art? I hate shit like that.
Xaero Gravity
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As if I didn't need any more reason to believe you should eat a bullet
I absolutely loved TLJ however.
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Inconsistent box art styling. Ugh.
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Choose a set from here. Print 'em out. Fix the issue.
Achievement unlocked: Autism.
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Calcium
Stupid Spoiled Whore
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Not surprising, most of the movies being utter shit doesn't bother you either.
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Sellout franchise, it's dead now
The sequels that Disney made are a mockery and anyone that praises them highly… I don't know what else to say other than get some taste. Like seriously, you get Benicio Del Toro to act in one of your films and the best role you can hand him is that of some stuttering retard? Complete garbage
The sequels that Disney made are a mockery and anyone that praises them highly… I don't know what else to say other than get some taste. Like seriously, you get Benicio Del Toro to act in one of your films and the best role you can hand him is that of some stuttering retard? Complete garbage
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I like The Last Jedi quite a bit, but it never fails to boggle my mind how Disney could be so careless with one of the largest franchises in existence, no plans, basically just winging it acting like Jar-Jar or something.
Lmao at people defending Disney trilogy. These movies are Jason Takes Manhattan level garbage. Literal 1/10s. Imagine rushing to make a trilogy as soon as you finished buying the franchise without any plan whatsoever and just making stuff up as you go.
Prequels were very imaginative movies with lots to like, even if they had their faults. Most importantly they felt immersive and belonging to Star Wars universe. Disney movies are just series of dumb events with occasional middle finger to all who cares about Star Wars.
Prequels were very imaginative movies with lots to like, even if they had their faults. Most importantly they felt immersive and belonging to Star Wars universe. Disney movies are just series of dumb events with occasional middle finger to all who cares about Star Wars.
QuantumZebra
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This whitewashing of the prequels is insane to me. They were tear-jerkingly boring and cringey. Even as a 13 year old who was fucking obsessed with Star Wars walked out of seeing TPM in theaters going "what the fuck was that". The PT killed Star Wars so bad for me I didn't even bother seeing RotS till later on.
TFA and TLJ are absolutely a level above any of the PT. The best one, RotS, I'd put above Rise of Skywalker. That's it.
QuantumZebra
It’s just basic anatomy
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The third one was the best out of the prequel trilogy tbh.
QuantumZebra
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Yeah TPM and AotC are just abysmal outside the endings. Snoozefests with garbage dialogue and stiff acting. Lucas really should have had other folks direct like he did with the OT.
RotS had the most going for it in terms of payoff and story, and it had the opera scene (which I heard was not directed by Lucas?)... but even then it's still hampered by the same shit dialogue / direction / acting.
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Attack of the Clone is like a fun buddy cop movie starring Obi-Wan and Anakin, I dig it
Only movie of the bunch which took me a while to grow keen on was Rogue One. People love that movie, but it really is lacking a lot of the warmth and charm which the Star Wars franchise is known for.
Only movie of the bunch which took me a while to grow keen on was Rogue One. People love that movie, but it really is lacking a lot of the warmth and charm which the Star Wars franchise is known for.
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To me star wars is another one of those examples of a multimillion dollar franchise that got really popular then caved in because it overstayed its welcome. In my opinion lucas should've just kept the original trilogy there and called it a day all that expanded universe stuff just seems to be redundant and ruins what I always liked about it in a way but from a business perspective why wouldn't they do it? Its gonna make money.
Neil Young
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Star Wars Boy eh? I'll stick with Star Wars Girl.
QuantumZebra
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I get where you're coming from, but at least we get more of it. And some of the Disney era stuff is pretty good.
I liken it to the Spider-Man movies. I LOVE the Raimi trilogy (SM3 has a lot of cringe in it, but I defend that without the Sandman subplot it'd be a really good movie). The Amazing Spider-Man films did nothing for me and even dampened my enjoyment of the character. Then Disney swooped in with Holland Spider-Man and I was fairly excited again, even if it will never top the OG trilogy.
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The Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones, and Revenge of the Sith are leagues better than the Disney garbage. I honestly don't know how you can say that any of the Disney sequels were good. They're so fucking bad dude. At least TPM, AotC, RotS had decent fights with characters that mattered. Who the fuck is even in the Disney sequels? I don't give a damn about a single main character in them because everything was so poorly handled. Even Rey is weak as hell. She looks it too, the entire cast was basically randomly selected at some McDonalds in the hood. Bunch of ugly slobs with zero business being on camera were gifted their role by Disney
Hayden Christensen fucked up his lines occasionally but nothing is worse than the insanely retarded and woke dumpster fire that Disney thought that they could pass on as Star Wars to the fanbase
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The original trilogy is where it shouldve ended. everything after it was fluff.
QuantumZebra
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I'll take hyperbole for $1000, Alex. Your criticisms literally boil down to "I didn't like the casting and its too woke".
The ST isn't any more woke than anything else that's come out recently. TFA was fucking awesome and made more money than any movie since Avatar. All 3 films made a billy and reviewed better than the PT, as additional backing to the argument that ST>PT.
The PT is a snoozefest full of awful CGI, shit writing, shit dialogue, and wooden acting. The Clone Wars was a way better presentation of the prequel era.
Also the new SW TV shows are fucking fantastic. Funny enough the worst reviewed one is the one built off the PT, Obi-Wan. And for the record I liked Obi-Wan as a show better than any PT movie. The final episode was fantastic and showed Vader's transformation WAY better than RotS.
QuantumZebra
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I honestly think everything would've been fine if Lucas just handed the directing reigns to some competent folks for each film. He should have been behind the scenes producing and collaborating as he did in the OT. If he didn't bungle the PT there's a chance it does booku bucks and we get a ST that he wrote and Lucasfilm alone handled.
The only catch is Disney has fucktons of money and as a result we get more Star Wars content. I will never say no to more of something I like.
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Naw, zero hyperbole. The Disney Star Wars films are atrocious. The kind you watch and wish you had complained to the manager about like a Karen, asking for your money back. That bad. If you think even one of the Disney sequels > the prequels (TPM, AotC, RotS) then you have the taste of a toddler who thinks Dora the Explorer is entertaining. I have zero desire to even talk about these shitty ass excuses for Star Wars that Disney tainted. At least with the prequels the worlds and enemies and story meshed decently well with the meta from the old Star Wars films. The new ones aren't even worth seeing the first time almost
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The prequels are alright. They're not extraordinary or anything but they have their moments. It's the Force Awakens forward where it gets gay. Just about the most vapid filmmaking imaginable for the budget and the prestige built up over time from prior entries. You would have thought that they had a standard that they'd hold themselves to, but no. Disney went full corporate mode and just threw money at the IP, and whatever happens they'll live with. These new Star Wars films, they're there because of money and solely because of money. From top to bottom the venture is a flop. They get by solely on what was built and loved in the past. And Disney is 100% fine with pumping them out like they're nothing and keeping this pattern of mediocrity going until they have to change and up the ante; to gain back the attention of the crowd the fanbase
I think the most telling thing about the sequel trilogy is that when I watched 8 and 9, I did so back to back with no break. But even though I did that, I was SO confused by the opening of 9 that I second guessed myself and went back to the end of 8. I thought I'd missed something, either an important bit of information or a post-credits scene.
Personally, I enjoy the prequels more than the sequels. Don't get me wrong, none of them are masterpieces, but the sequels weren't fun, plots are all over the place, and nothing makes the tiniest bit of sense. Here's an ancient dagger in the shape of a modern shipwreck that guides you if you stand in the exact spot you need to be in. Lucky the girl who has master level powers out of nowhere with no training is around to be that person. At least the prequels have Qui-Gon, Obi Wan, and Mace Windu L Jackson.
I would have rather watched Lucas' original idea of Midichlorian world than the confused sequels we got.
I've seen discussion about the watch order before, with chronological vs release order and suggested mixed orders like 451236. But I think the most interesting one to think about is an order where 1 doesn't exist.
Does 1 really need to exist for the story? Outside of Qui-Gon, what does it bring that 2 doesn't also do?
Personally, I enjoy the prequels more than the sequels. Don't get me wrong, none of them are masterpieces, but the sequels weren't fun, plots are all over the place, and nothing makes the tiniest bit of sense. Here's an ancient dagger in the shape of a modern shipwreck that guides you if you stand in the exact spot you need to be in. Lucky the girl who has master level powers out of nowhere with no training is around to be that person. At least the prequels have Qui-Gon, Obi Wan, and Mace Windu L Jackson.
I would have rather watched Lucas' original idea of Midichlorian world than the confused sequels we got.
I've seen discussion about the watch order before, with chronological vs release order and suggested mixed orders like 451236. But I think the most interesting one to think about is an order where 1 doesn't exist.
Does 1 really need to exist for the story? Outside of Qui-Gon, what does it bring that 2 doesn't also do?
11 year old me loved TPM. It was my first Star Wars movie and it felt like nothing I've ever seen before. I liked all the space politics and Jedi lore they introduced. All the Palpatine machinations hits close at home I guess. These movies were well regarded at the time, had a pop culture presence and if you check rotten tomatoes they had decent critical reception back when critics were vicious to these types of movies.
Only after I had the Internet I learned there's a hate movement towards prequels and later they were exacerbated by hack frauds from RLM.
Ironically when Disney stole the franchise they designed TFA to be the anti-prequels. If prequels were too obsessed with establishing things and meander in exposition, TFA producers decided they should have none of that. So in this movie set 30 years chronologically after the last one they established... nothing. Empire still fights rebellion under different names, new Death Star destroys some planets. We get no backstory to any of the characters. Rey is some random NPC on a Tatooine like planet that waits until the script is executed for her to start going through the motions of fighting the new Empire. She has no character arc in the movie, even Jar Jar Binks had one lmao. Idiot Abrams placed some "hints" towards a nature of his characters that was going to replace real character depth. He also gave C3PO red hand because he wanted to be friends with Kojima. How much worse can it get? This is the way they chose to introduce a new trilogy.
To me it was obvious that they can't continue with this and follow ups will not work. The Last Jedi was anti-original trilogy, designed as a fuck you to all Star Wars fans and a vessel for woke ideology. This is where they lost hardcore fans. The final movie was the anti-sequel. They ignored what was in the last two and just made some quick shit to get it over with. This time it was obvious to anyone that Star Wars are dead.
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You sound like you're repeating Plinkett reviews. Prequel dialogue isn't the greatest but it's memorable and got tons of meme love. The most memorable line in sequels is this:
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Force awakens was good though. It would've been a good trilogy if it wasn't for the final two cookie cutter films. and no those were pretty high budget films they cost Disney quite a bit of money To make.