Thread: What do you do for work?
I audit stuff. Basically I look at documents real closely for errors/inconsistencies/problems and I write reports about them. The audits I do determine how much people get paid by a government program, and so sometimes people are very unhappy with my work. Also a, a distinct part of the job is basically annoying people.

"Please provide X." - Me

"Unfortunately, due to such and such, we can't provide that document. Instead have this." -Them

"Yeah that's not going to do it, please provide X." -Me

"Unfortunately that thing we gave you is the best we have."

"Yeah, that doesn't work for us. It leaves out crucial information for me to be able to make an evaluation. If you can't provide the document, you aren't going to be reimbursed for anything related to this. Please provide X." - Me

"Okay, here it is." - Them

That doesn't even get into the amount of times people pretend not to read my emails. I send everything with read receipt option available so I get a notification telling me they read the email. I'm just glad most of the people I audit are boomers and don't know that they can stop me from getting a read receipt.
 
I audit stuff. Basically I look at documents real closely for errors/inconsistencies/problems and I write reports about them. The audits I do determine how much people get paid by a government program, and so sometimes people are very unhappy with my work. Also a, a distinct part of the job is basically annoying people.

"Please provide X." - Me

"Unfortunately, due to such and such, we can't provide that document. Instead have this." -Them

"Yeah that's not going to do it, please provide X." -Me

"Unfortunately that thing we gave you is the best we have."

"Yeah, that doesn't work for us. It leaves out crucial information for me to be able to make an evaluation. If you can't provide the document, you aren't going to be reimbursed for anything related to this. Please provide X." - Me

"Okay, here it is." - Them

That doesn't even get into the amount of times people pretend not to read my emails. I send everything with read receipt option available so I get a notification telling me they read the email. I'm just glad most of the people I audit are boomers and don't know that they can stop me from getting a read receipt.

I imagine the amount of positive feedback from the people you interact with must be..... Overwhelming.
 
is that how you met your wife
Although I do wonder if my wife has some sort of disability. For example, almost every time she comes up to a door that says "push" she will instead try to pull it open. There have been times she has done this multiple in a day.

She also couldn't unlock the front door one time because she was turning the key the wrong way.

Yet she works a MUCH more difficult and competitive job where you really do have to be the best of the best. Something I could never hope to achieve as I do not posses the intellect.
 
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Although I do wonder if my wife has some sort of disability. For example, almost every time she comes up to a door that says "push" she will instead try to pull it open. There have been times she has done this multiple in a day.

She also couldn't unlock the front door one time because she was turning the key the wrong way.

Yet she works a MUCH more difficult and competitive job where you really do have to be the best of the best. Something I could never hope to achieve as I do not posses the intellect.

She does. It's called two X chromosomes.
 
I get into verbal fights with 8th-grade boys on the daily.








Jokes aside, I am a supervisor at a middle school during recess (for some reason they have 5th grade in middle school here....) and keep all the grades in check during lunch and a bit afterward. It's easy as hell and I get to pretend I am scary.
 
I get into verbal fights with 8th-grade boys on the daily.








Jokes aside, I am a supervisor at a middle school during recess (for some reason they have 5th grade in middle school here....) and keep all the grades in check during lunch and a bit afterward. It's easy as hell and I get to pretend I am scary.

hi felon
 
What I was getting at was - why does he need a generic 1950s lifestyle to "make life worth living"?
Can you propose a better alternative? For most people, failure to do that leads to a middle age of loneliness, indeed we only have to look at the crisis of loneliness among young people who have rejected that "generic 1950s lifestyle" aka what humans have sought for centuries and those unable due to the circumstances of our modern economy.
Personally I enjoy my own company but I'm an infinitely happier and better person with my wife as a counterbalance to my flaws, my career has progressed faster, and I am far less self-destructive. We are social creatures who need our family bonds, denying that basic biological fact brings neuroses, diseased thought patterns that are playing out across society today. Most of the problems of the West could be solved by more people moving out, marrying and having kids.
 
Can you propose a better alternative? For most people, failure to do that leads to a middle age of loneliness, indeed we only have to look at the crisis of loneliness among young people who have rejected that "generic 1950s lifestyle" aka what humans have sought for centuries and those unable due to the circumstances of our modern economy.
Personally I enjoy my own company but I'm an infinitely happier and better person with my wife as a counterbalance to my flaws, my career has progressed faster, and I am far less self-destructive. We are social creatures who need our family bonds, denying that basic biological fact brings neuroses, diseased thought patterns that are playing out across society today. Most of the problems of the West could be solved by more people moving out, marrying and having kids.
I wouldn't propose any alternative other than for a person to seek out and do what makes them happy, whatever that may be (within reason). Buying a house, having a family and settling down is not a guarantee for a full and enriched life. For many, maybe, but for everyone? In my case, no.
 
I wouldn't propose any alternative other than for a person to seek out and do what makes them happy, whatever that may be (within reason). Buying a house, having a family and settling down is not a guarantee for a full and enriched life. For many, maybe, but for everyone? In my case, no.
For most people it's their best shot. Pursuing individual needs just leads to the hedonistic emptiness we see today. People finding their own truth, in truth self-justifying their own decaying morality. That shit is why we have furries. Do you really want a world with more furries?
 
For most people it's their best shot. Pursuing individual needs just leads to the hedonistic emptiness we see today. People finding their own truth, in truth self-justifying their own decaying morality. That shit is why we have furries. Do you really want a world with more furries?
The answer to your question would, for sure, be a resounding no. But, in the interest of not derailing this thread anymore, I'll just say we'll have to agree to disagree.
 
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Engineering manager, electronics and software..... Hopefully retired soon.

Then I can complain about stuff on the internet full time

Is that cos you're old or fucking rich? Or both? Or you've had a change of heart, detest the western capitalistic grind and are moving to a compound full of hairy women with flowers in their hair?
 
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I'm a freelance game developer/programmer/visual artist/writer/project manager. I wear a lot of hats, usually leading teams of other more singularely focused freelancers in development of whatever the client has contracted us for. Right now I'm in the 3rd year of what is looking like it might be a 4-5year project, after this I hope to finish up solo project which will be published under my own company. I used to be a networking engineer but transitioned 5 or so years back into game development cause it's less soul-crushing.
 
But but but crunch and the horrible working conditions in the gaming industry! How could you go back to that!
Don't get me wrong, I've had a few 60 hour weeks lately, but I'd much rather spend 60 hours doing something I love and have ownership/authorship over than 60 hours looking through logs trying to figure out the cause of a bug. The gaming industry is not unique in crunch at all (as I'm sure many people here know) but we are unique in having massive microphones to complain about them to an audience more than averagly sympathetic to anything that might be construed as caused by "capitalist policies".
 
That's great! Can I ask you how you plan to achieve that, financially? Did you invest, put money aside throughout your life, etc?

I went into the military after high school and and worked my way through college without ever taking on debt. My parents were very poor, so that was pretty much my only option. I started with the company I work for now at near minimum wage, but moved up quickly and have been there 25+ years. About 20 or so years ago I married a nurse who hated debt as much as I did, we both had typical mortgages on our houses, but sold off both, used the equity as a down payment on our current very large house and paid of the difference off in 8 years. I can't tell you how much paying off your home changes everything.

We lived a little lean while we did that, but after the kids moved out, our monthly bills are like nothing, like half of either one of our paychecks a month. We have normal mutual funds and retirement accounts, but what put us over the edge was putting money that would have gone to mortgage and other bills we don't have any more. and starting an LLC with about 8 other friends and family, buying and improving investment properties and with 1031 exchanges, almost no tax since all the capital gains are differed, we also reinvested all gains + new money in, so most years, it shows as a loss. It started out small, but has grown to where cashing out and paying the differed taxes will bridge the gap between early retirement and when we when retirement funds become available.
 
I went into the military after high school and and worked my way through college without ever taking on debt. My parents were very poor, so that was pretty much my only option. I started with the company I work for now at near minimum wage, but moved up quickly and have been there 25+ years. About 20 or so years ago I married a nurse who hated debt as much as I did, we both had typical mortgages on our houses, but sold off both, used the equity as a down payment on our current very large house and paid of the difference off in 8 years. I can't tell you how much paying off your home changes everything.

We lived a little lean while we did that, but after the kids moved out, our monthly bills are like nothing, like half of either one of our paychecks a month. We have normal mutual funds and retirement accounts, but what put us over the edge was putting money that would have gone to mortgage and other bills we don't have any more. and starting an LLC with about 8 other friends and family, buying and improving investment properties and with 1031 exchanges, almost no tax since all the capital gains are differed, we also reinvested all gains + new money in, so most years, it shows as a loss. It started out small, but has grown to where cashing out and paying the differed taxes will bridge the gap between early retirement and when we when retirement funds become available.

Well done!

Yeah mortgage and kids definitely are the most significant cost factors. I'm still working on a plan to avoid working till 67 ...
 
I went into the military after high school and and worked my way through college without ever taking on debt. My parents were very poor, so that was pretty much my only option. I started with the company I work for now at near minimum wage, but moved up quickly and have been there 25+ years. About 20 or so years ago I married a nurse who hated debt as much as I did, we both had typical mortgages on our houses, but sold off both, used the equity as a down payment on our current very large house and paid of the difference off in 8 years. I can't tell you how much paying off your home changes everything.

We lived a little lean while we did that, but after the kids moved out, our monthly bills are like nothing, like half of either one of our paychecks a month. We have normal mutual funds and retirement accounts, but what put us over the edge was putting money that would have gone to mortgage and other bills we don't have any more. and starting an LLC with about 8 other friends and family, buying and improving investment properties and with 1031 exchanges, almost no tax since all the capital gains are differed, we also reinvested all gains + new money in, so most years, it shows as a loss. It started out small, but has grown to where cashing out and paying the differed taxes will bridge the gap between early retirement and when we when retirement funds become available.

Love reading stories like this.

Do you all do the work on the properties or outsource the labor?
 
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I'm heading down that path - from a standing start paying the mortgage in 13 years - I was late getting a house but I'll be mortgage-free at 50 and bills are honestly 20% of my salary and the wife earns similar so we'll be on easy street.

That's the way to go. We have to wait until my wife can start working again. Our twins will be two years old in December and I did not get kids to pay others to raise them. I support her staying at home until the little ones go to school. Also, with three small kids, you always have one of them being sick or something. She just started a part time job because she wanted to try it, and it gloriously failed.

Therefore I have to provide for the family alone, which doesn't leave much headroom currently, with a recently bought house, two cars, three kids etc.

But in around four years, all kids will go to school, I expect my pay to increase significantly and then my wife will be able to work part time - which will enable us to pay off the mortgage faster and do some investments. We'll be in our very late 30s by then, which isn't optimal but still fine.
 
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I just had a meeting with the whole team and whenever that comes, every three months, I feel like shit. The whole team is congratulated, I am in the middle, but I never really feel thanked for anything. I always bring in new ideas and ways to do stuff and they take it for granted. I'm tired of being in a company that does not appreciate my collaborations. *sigh*
 
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I just had a meeting with the whole team and whenever that comes, every three months, I feel like shit. The whole team is congratulated, I am in the middle, but I never really feel thanked for anything. I always bring in new ideas and ways to do stuff and they take it for granted. I'm tired of being in a company that does not appreciate my collaborations. *sigh*

How is the job market in your country at the moment? How hard would it be to find something new?

Here, companies are pretty desperate at the moment because it's difficult to find good qualified people. So there are a lot of great chances to advance.
 
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