Nintendo Forces Switch Emulator Ryujinx to Shut Down

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Does this mean those Chinese hard drives that come with the Switch games will no longer be able to run them? Or am I being a sweet summer child here?
 
The Bloody Nine said:
Does this mean those Chinese hard drives that come with the Switch games will no longer be able to run them? Or am I being a sweet summer child here?
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I don't see why any emulator that's already on a hard drive wouldn't keep working.
 
I can sort of understand using emulation for older games that aren't available for sale, but current gen emulation isn't really necessary when you can just buy the hardware.

It is a bit of a shame that Nintendo goes so hard against emulation though. Their game output is the most worthy for preservation between the main console makers. I don't think people will be going out of their way to download Roms of current AAA(A) games for future preservation.
 
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I best update the emulator later.

Fuck Nintendo. Hope this gives people second thoughts about supporting them. They *maybe* had a case with Yuzu having a Petreon, but this is just a fragrent disregard for the legal right of emulation. Shitty slap tactics, tieing people up for months both financially and emotionally regardless of who is in the legal right. Between this and the Pal World legal action Nintendo can cab take position as the worst of the three platform holders IMO.
 
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A shame to see this go the same way as Yuzu but hardly surprising given that it's Nintendo's current platform. Guess it is one less reason to hold onto my launch day Switch...
 
It looks like Nintendo is also going after any Youtubers that cover Nintendo emulation. Rediculous and petty
 
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So Nintendo can emulate games because they made them, but end users can't emulate games they bought?
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If you bought the game, you agreed to an end user license agreement that — last time I checked — doesn't allow reverse engineering or hacking of hardware or software.

I can't imagine that the same folks who are setting up 4K Switch emulators and saying "fuck you Nintendo!!" are spending any reasonable amount of money on Nintendo products.

It's mostly just pirates seething, as usual.
 
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If you bought the game, you agreed to an end user license agreement that — last time I checked — doesn't allow reverse engineering or hacking of hardware or software.

I can't imagine that the same folks who are setting up 4K Switch emulators and saying "fuck you Nintendo!!" are spending any reasonable amount of money on Nintendo products.

It's mostly just pirates seething, as usual.
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Since when did EULAs supersede the law?

Emulation is incredibly important to the long sustained archival of the medium.
 
Hostile_18 said:
Since when did EULAs supersede the law?

Emulation is incredibly important to the long sustained archival of the medium.
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Do you think a system that can be purchased at the nearest Wal Mart is in danger of vanishing unless gaming archivists (lol) carefully preserve it?

The self-importance and entitlement among PC pirates has gotten ridiculous and I say that as someone who has been in the emulation and cracking scene since th late 90s. Emulation has always been sketchy, and emulating products that are actively being sold on store shelves has always been risky for litigation.

PC gamers actually think it's unfair and damaging to the long term health of gaming if they're not stepping in, downloading ROMs for "archival purposes" 🌝👌
 
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DonDonDonPata said:
Do you think a system that can be purchased at the nearest Wal Mart is in danger of vanishing unless gaming archivists (lol) carefully preserve it?

The self-importance and entitlement among PC pirates has gotten ridiculous and I say that as someone who has been in the emulation and cracking scene since th late 90s. Emulation has always been sketchy, and emulating products that are actively being sold on store shelves has always been risky for litigation.

PC gamers actually think it's unfair and damaging to the long term health of gaming if they're not stepping in, downloading ROMs for "archival purposes" 🌝👌
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If you have been in the emulation scene since the 90's you obviously at one point valued it.

If someone has a Switch and a copy of Mario Kart 8 say, if they want to play it at 4k 120fps then let them do it.

When rights expire, when Nintendo want to resell you a remastered copy, when modern sensibilities change and so to the game content, when you don't want 10 devices under your tv then you will come back and appreciate what we have now.

Licenced games in particular are really at risk of been lost to time, or when companies selling these products go under.

I think the most important point is also that Nintendo isn't a law maker, that is the Governments job and emulation has been deemed legal. If Nintendo have a problem with that they should be partitioning the legislators, not trying to take advantage of legal loop holes. It's also worth bearing in mind that companies arn't your friend. If Nintendo had their way you would own nothing, be paying them if you ever stream their content and allowing themselves to create patents and retro actively sue other companies that make games you enjoy. Plus should you ever enjoy LAN parties Nintendo want to stipulate maximum attendance and the price of tickets also.

Don't give all your rights over to companies so easily, the road you want to go down isn't a good one.
 
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If you have been in the emulation scene since the 90's you obviously at one point valued it.

If someone has a Switch and a copy of Mario Kart 8 say, if they want to play it at 4k 120fps then let them do it.

When rights expire, when Nintendo want to resell you a remastered copy, when modern sensibilities change and so to the game content, when you don't want 10 devices under your tv then you will come back and appreciate what we have now.

Licenced games in particular are really at risk of been lost to time, or when companies selling these products go under.

I think the most important point is also that Nintendo isn't a law maker, that is the Governments job and emulation has been deemed legal. If Nintendo have a problem with that they should be partitioning the legislators, not trying to take advantage of legal loop holes. It's also worth bearing in mind that companies arn't your friend. If Nintendo had their way you would own nothing, be paying them if you ever stream their content and allowing themselves to create patents and retro actively sue other companies that make games you enjoy. Plus should you ever enjoy LAN parties Nintendo want to stipulate maximum attendance and the price of tickets also.

Don't give all your rights over to companies so easily, the road you want to go down isn't a good one.
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Nintendo has a right to go after the makers of emulators and cracks. It's not like you, the end user owner of Mario Kart 8, is cobbling together your own emulation and preservation software. No, you're downloading something made by someone else. So that's why Nintendo goes after those emulator makers, to prevent low-effort pirates from simply clicking and playing.

The end user will always have options and no company will cut out piracy entirely. But they have every right to go after the bigger culprits to protect their brand just like any company does.

Again, enough with the self righteousness. This isn't about preserving the legacy of video games for future generations. This isn't about whether a company is "my friend" or not. It's about pirates riding on the edge of legality which sometimes gets them clipped, nothing more complex than that. Pirates and crackers and emulators back in the day understood that and didn't flaunt it. It was an underground thing.

Now any retard with access to a Reddit thread or a YouTube tutorial nowadays is like "I am master emulator and game archivist, fuck Nintendo!!"
 
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Nintendo has a right to go after the makers of emulators and cracks. It's not like you, the end user owner of Mario Kart 8, is cobbling together your own emulation and preservation software. No, you're downloading something made by someone else. So that's why Nintendo goes after those emulator makers, to prevent low-effort pirates from simply clicking and playing.

The end user will always have options and no company will cut out piracy entirely. But they have every right to go after the bigger culprits to protect their brand just like any company does.

Again, enough with the self righteousness. This isn't about preserving the legacy of video games for future generations. This isn't about whether a company is "my friend" or not. It's about pirates riding on the edge of legality which sometimes gets them clipped, nothing more complex than that. Pirates and crackers and emulators back in the day understood that and didn't flaunt it. It was an underground thing.

Now any retard with access to a Reddit thread or a YouTube tutorial nowadays is like "I am master emulator and game archivist, fuck Nintendo!!"
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What right to go after emulators? In this case there was no Patreon, they were also based in Brazil. Keys were not supplied etc.
 
PS in my mind ROM sites are of course wrong legally speaking, as to sites that offer keys.

Now I'm not going to say I'd never download a ROM, but if it gets taken down, I'm not going to complain about it either. In some instances I've bought the original game Mario Kart 8, Silent Hill 1-3, 24, Buffy etc. If those games become available for sale I buy them Metal Gear 1-3, Crisis Core from recent memory.
 
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What right to go after emulators? In this case there was no Patreon, they were also based in Brazil. Keys were not supplied etc.
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What right to reverse engineer someone else's invention? I already explained the reason why they go after emulators, it's to prevent low-effort pirates from just clicking and playing too easily. Nintendo sells hardware and software as a package, so if you're circumventing either their hardware sales or software sales they have every interest to cut that short if they can.

Nintendo is not a software company that later decided to dabble in hardware (like Microsoft or Valve). Nintendo is an integrated hardware and software company with roots in the arcade era. Yeah I know this concept is completely foreign to modern PC gamers but there was a time when most gaming companies also shipped their own hardware and designed games around specific hardware. Arcades had their own forms of DRM due to bootlegging and circumvention.

pirates have always claimed their right to pirate because of "muh archival purposes" and "muh greedy corporations" since the 80s. The attitude has always been obnoxious and entitled.

What's so bad about admitting we're skirting the edge of legality? Enjoy emulation when it lasts and shrug when it gets taken away, because it'll always be back in another form later. The folks who are so
Impatient that they NEED to emulate consoles currently on the market are not standing on solid ground.
 
Emulators are legal no matter the period/console availability, and corpo cuckolds can only cry about it.

Anyways, do you guys think the reason retards at Nintendo only remembered Switch emulation is a thing this late and this close to the next console release, because the Switch 2 is so similar it can be easily emulated (using the emulators they chased down, Dolphin style)?
 
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Emulators are legal no matter the period/console availability, and corpo cuckolds can only cry about it.

Anyways, do you guys think the reason retards at Nintendo only remembered Switch emulation is a thing this late and this close to the next console release, because the Switch 2 is so similar it can be easily emulated (using the emulators they chased down, Dolphin style)?
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Given it will most likely be backwards compatible, I do think there is some degree of panic occurring at Nintendo. You're probably onto something regarding the timing because chasing down the emulators 6 or 7 years down the line can hardly appear to be an effort to combat piracy.
 
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Great thing about open source software is you can never kill it. Others will pick up the task. As for this gen Yuzu and Ryujinx are pretty feature complete.
 
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I don't if this shitty website embeds for you guys, it doesn't work for me, here's the link just in case

Fucking crazy, mafia style shit.
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I don't know if restraining orders are a thing in Brazil, but if for some reason they tried that stalking and harassment stuff with me I'd have them legally removed. If they didn't cease, then I'd take them to court.

It's just crazy what they're doing.
 
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My stance has always been emulating current systems are a no! Old systems no longer being sold like the WiiU/3DS, have at it. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Is this legal?

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Running a game before release doesn't make the emulator illegal anymore than your game console would be illegal for running a game shipped to you ahead of the street date.

Someone probably broke the law but not the emulator or its devs.
 
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