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Hey fellas, I did some chicken scratch editing since my trainer asked me for progress photos. So I put together this image from the photos(not sure what he is going to do for editing). Just want to share my W about 6 months into this journey. Also the pictures don't show it but I am VERY vascular now. Veins on veins and I dig it lol.

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Hey fellas, I did some chicken scratch editing since my trainer asked me for progress photos. So I put together this image from the photos(not sure what he is going to do for editing). Just want to share my W about 6 months into this journey. Also the pictures don't show it but I am VERY vascular now. Veins on veins and I dig it lol.

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Bruh! How big are those pythons and how tall are you? Great work man. Love this stuff. Wanted to do one of these myself but I can't remember if I took any before photos lol. Gotta look through the albums...
 
Fasting + boxing club this week to cut. Hoping to reach a reasonable # by spring so that I have a clearer perspective of weight class for matches. To be honest I don't know where that number will be. We'll see.
 
Bruh! How big are those pythons and how tall are you? Great work man. Love this stuff. Wanted to do one of these myself but I can't remember if I took any before photos lol. Gotta look through the albums...
I haven't measured them yet but they are definitely the biggest and most defined ever for myself. I am 5 foot 7 inches in height. Also it feels great to finally not be fat anymore.
 
Well, went to homeschool co-op today and there's now a bounty on my head. 40 dollars to anyone who can beat me in arm wrestling. I may have written the bounty myself but hey, if it motivates anyone to man up then it's worth it. 2 teens have already tried and failed miserably but were hungry to learn more and try again after more training. I told them it goes for everyone, even parents... We'll see what happens.
 
Fasting last week went well. Gonna fast more this week as well, while the weather is still chilly. I can feel the skin around my midsection (esp around my lower back) thinning out / tightening. Ring-rows and RTOs all day to build up the shoulder complex, with 80lb kettlebell walks to compliment. Also doing a lot of compression work to improve my L-sit / V-sit and I'm slowly seeing improvements there in range of motion and in strength.

Hope everyone is hitting goals and getting stronger!
 
I lapsed a bit - various injuries basically took me out for a while and I'm a little heavier than I'd like to be. Not overweight, but not where I want to be, nor as fit. Still some niggling injuries there so i'll need to use my head but i'm hoping to ease back up to the full program of running and weights, though perhaps putting more bike into the mix.
 
Got a great full-body workout in today. Only 20 minutes, but it was intense with very little (to no) rest in between sets (10 exercises, 1 set each, 20-25 repetitions or to failure). Still dealing with this effing wrist sprain, so I can't do anything heavy and am having to improvise, but I'm getting by well enough. Also, bumping my daily walks up to 2 miles, with a fair bit of it being uphill. Not terribly strenuous, but it gets the blood pumping and the calves mooing.
 
What do you all do for pre and post workout anyways?
Sometimes I don't even eat before arm wrestling training. If I do I keep it light and usually eat slow digesting stuff like oatmeal and such. I'll take some collagen in my tea or water along with some magnesium if I feel inflamed at all. I drink around 50 fl oz of water during that time though. And we have some gummy bears to snack on for a bit of sugar and collagen.

After, I usually just eat a meal with some protein and more collagen and magnesium. If we have bananas that day I'll eat one with some nut butter.

I don't take any muscle powders/drinks pre/post stuff or what not. None of us do. However, If I'm feeling particularly beaten up, my tummy is feeling bad or I want to fast a meal I'll make a plant protein shake.

I'll say till the day that I die that besides eating a basic, healthy meal, the best thing you can do for recovery and growth after a hard workout is to, at some point in the day, finish with a good pump. Even if it hurts a bit at first, your body will thank you. And it really doesn't take much...

 
What do you all do for pre and post workout anyways?

If the main goal of your workout is to lose fat, eat nothing except maybe some tea (small jolt of caffeine) with honey (small jolt of sugar) and unflavored gelatin (small jolt of amino acids), totaling 40 calories or so. Exercising during a fasted state not only predisposes you toward fat burning but also trains your metabolism to be more efficient. Autophagy, increased insulin sensitivity, lower insulin levels, faster digestion, all that good stuff comes from fasting. Fat loss is moreso a factor of insulin and oxygen cycling than anything else. Insulin directly inhibits the process of retrieving stored fat. High insulin = no fat loss.

Try to wean yourself off caffeine and sugar, which are the main active ingredients in the average pre-workout. Use them sparingly and the efficacy will go up. If one is sugared / caffeinated all day long, is it any mystery that it takes 250+ mg of caffeine and 50g of sugar to "feel" anything during a workout? If, however, you save caffeine for the morning, go all day without, and then spike yourself with more caffeine + sugar prior to a workout, you will feel a much stronger effect from a much smaller dosage of caffeine + sugar.

Caffeine is excellent, mind you. Increases heart rate and improves oxygen cycling. But our bodies become insensitive to it just like anything else, and too much caffeine is gonna trash your sleep, which is essential for recovery and muscle-building.

If you're trying to gain muscle and couldn't care less about fat loss, eat a good slice of meat after (as mentioned above) fasting for several hours / the whole day prior to the workout. I usually sous vide a steak.

Personally, I despise feeling bloated or nauseous during a workout due to eating. I never feel "hungry" or feel discomfort/pain from hunger. Last night I did nearly 2 hrs of heavy cardio at boxing club at the tail end of a 2-day fast. My gas tank was on vapors by the end, but that's GOOD.
 
If the main goal of your workout is to lose fat, eat nothing except maybe some tea (small jolt of caffeine) with honey (small jolt of sugar) and unflavored gelatin (small jolt of amino acids), totaling 40 calories or so. Exercising during a fasted state not only predisposes you toward fat burning but also trains your metabolism to be more efficient. Autophagy, increased insulin sensitivity, lower insulin levels, faster digestion, all that good stuff comes from fasting. Fat loss is moreso a factor of insulin and oxygen cycling than anything else. Insulin directly inhibits the process of retrieving stored fat. High insulin = no fat loss.

Try to wean yourself off caffeine and sugar, which are the main active ingredients in the average pre-workout. Use them sparingly and the efficacy will go up. If one is sugared / caffeinated all day long, is it any mystery that it takes 250+ mg of caffeine and 50g of sugar to "feel" anything during a workout? If, however, you save caffeine for the morning, go all day without, and then spike yourself with more caffeine + sugar prior to a workout, you will feel a much stronger effect from a much smaller dosage of caffeine + sugar.

Caffeine is excellent, mind you. Increases heart rate and improves oxygen cycling. But our bodies become insensitive to it just like anything else, and too much caffeine is gonna trash your sleep, which is essential for recovery and muscle-building.

If you're trying to gain muscle and couldn't care less about fat loss, eat a good slice of meat after (as mentioned above) fasting for several hours / the whole day prior to the workout. I usually sous vide a steak.

Personally, I despise feeling bloated or nauseous during a workout due to eating. I never feel "hungry" or feel discomfort/pain from hunger. Last night I did nearly 2 hrs of heavy cardio at boxing club at the tail end of a 2-day fast. My gas tank was on vapors by the end, but that's GOOD.
Thanks, lots of good ideas here!

Re: 2hrs of heavy cardio - Jesus, how often do you do that? I'd be a broken man for the remainder of the day if I tried something like that in my current state. :LOL:
 
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I haven't missed a day at the gym since the 3rd. Everyday putting in good hard work. Coming around again and getting strong. It seems more and more im getting nagging pains though. My right elbow, left shoulder sometimes knees. Taking some fish oil drinking alot of water and working around it. One of my goals was to bench 400lbs but with these pains im pretty sure thats not happening. Oh well. Onward 😤
 
Thanks, lots of good ideas here!

100% of it has been learned from elsewhere. The only credit I can take is that I've tested it myself and have seen results myself, but otherwise it is knowledge learned from others.

Re: 2hrs of heavy cardio - Jesus, how often do you do that? I'd be a broken man for the remainder of the day if I tried something like that in my current state. :LOL:

every weekday, at the end of the day. From morning to afternoon I exercise but it's lower intensity / frequency, stuff like gym rings, kettlebells, stretching, lunges, isometric holds, balancework, etc., with occasional bursts of cardio via jump rope. During the first half of the day I try to keep the intensity level below breaking a sweat / sucking wind. When I can, I wedge a nap between the morning workout and boxing. It helps.

Bear in mind that I have structured my workout routine this way for almost 2 years, with the purpose of developing all-day endurance or what some would call "farmer's strength". I do not attend a gym and my home gym is pathetic compared to people with benches, squat racks, pulley systems, etc.

Good video on the concept (which is an excerpt from a longer podcast):



The gist is volume >>>> "progressive overload", and this is consistent with how world-class athletes have been trained over the past century, and how we train our soldiers. It is superior to work at 40-70% of your "maximum" throughout the day, throughout the week, throughout the month, day after day, carefully avoiding injury and soreness, than to hit 80%+ maximum 3-4 times a week and to be in pain during your necessary "rest".

Over time (and all of one's major gains are over long periods of time anyway, months if not years) the person who is consistently working every day has far more volume than the person grunting out 2-rep max a few times a week. Their form is better. Their joints are healthier. Their energy levels are better. They suffer from fewer injuries (which also saps a person's rate of progress).

And the main difference if you compare the two is that the 40-70% lifter can always dabble in the traditional heavy lifting routine. I do, once a week. One of my buddies has a nice home gym with all that nice equipment and so I get to do standard bench press, squats, deadlifts, leg extensions, etc. and I can handle those routines fine. But take the 80%+ 2-rep max sort of lifter and put them on the all-day routine? They crumple like cheap origami. Not even including cardio, just good ol' volume lifting will crush them into dust. So I have to wonder if I -- the untrained volume lifter -- can still increase in "progressive overload" in traditional weightlifting but without training much in that mode of lifting, I'm doing something right.
 
hey @bonk you mentioned joint pains (elbow, shoulder, knees). Are you also taking some gelatin / collagen / "bone peptides" because that helps a lot. Mind you, collagenous tissue like tendon and joints take up to 3 years to fully build and repair, one of the slowest-building tissue in the body, but if you are patient it WILL improve

Also how much stretching and isometric work are you doing? For shoulders (for instance) I hold out weights to the front and to the side, something light like 5lbs or 10lbs, and hold it there for 30s or more, several sets a day. I stretch multiple times a day, probably a sum of 1hr per day (split up across the day). I was really nervous about my knees in particular when I was much fatter trying to lose weight, so these things helped. As a bonus, isometrics and stretching will strengthen all of your "small stabilizer muscles" which translates to cleaner lifts / presses, better form, more stability, etc which will reduce injury and joint pain in the long run. Lots of joint pain comes from improperly loading the limb/muscle chain with a weight which then transfers directly into the joint tissue instead of being loaded into the tendon/musculature.
 
hey @bonk you mentioned joint pains (elbow, shoulder, knees). Are you also taking some gelatin / collagen / "bone peptides" because that helps a lot. Mind you, collagenous tissue like tendon and joints take up to 3 years to fully build and repair, one of the slowest-building tissue in the body, but if you are patient it WILL improve

Also how much stretching and isometric work are you doing? For shoulders (for instance) I hold out weights to the front and to the side, something light like 5lbs or 10lbs, and hold it there for 30s or more, several sets a day. I stretch multiple times a day, probably a sum of 1hr per day (split up across the day). I was really nervous about my knees in particular when I was much fatter trying to lose weight, so these things helped. As a bonus, isometrics and stretching will strengthen all of your "small stabilizer muscles" which translates to cleaner lifts / presses, better form, more stability, etc which will reduce injury and joint pain in the long run. Lots of joint pain comes from improperly loading the limb/muscle chain with a weight which then transfers directly into the joint tissue instead of being loaded into the tendon/musculature.
Thanks for the advice. I think ill do all that. Im not the best with proper maintenance but nowadays im want to work towards that more.
 
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Mmm mmm, with the shoulder healed up, I'm feelin really good about ring stuff. A simple daily routine of ring-rows, chin ups, RTOs, and knee raises (from a top hold) has built up my shoulder complex. The stability feels good after so many months of babying the joint. The routine also juices the triceps, traps, and pecs so that's nice too.

It's a testament, however, as to how long an injury can take to heal. The shoulder was never so bad that it needed a Dr visit nor surgery, yet it has been holding me back for ~4 months.

Stay safe! Stay smart! That's all I can say about it. Gains are at a risk of vanishing when you can't exercise the joint.
 
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I'm down to 160lbs @ 5'10. I started a bit over 190lbs last summer. I've been mixing in some strength exercise for awhile now so the weight gain was a bit stalled I guess, but my arms got bigger so it was good weight. I am getting close to the point where I want to start focusing mostly on lifting weights and getting bigger. So far I've mostly been doing cardio and pushups,pull ups, curls and other simple stuff. I want to begin doing the big boy stuff like benching, etc. I recently joined the gym.

Are there are good online resources anyone can recommend for creating a plan for this? I'd like to create a gym schedule and also a diet plan. Or has anyone ever hired a personal trainer and think that might be a good route to go instead?

I find with all the bullshit going on in my life working out really changes my mood for the better and makes me a happier person. I guess it is kind of like my dogs. As long as they are exercised during the day they crash at night and are super happy.
 
Started JUICING again this week!! No, not drugs but literal juice from carrots, grapefruit, and ginger root. I am taking a break from caffeine (not that I was consuming all that much) to see how it affects me. Last cup of tea was on Friday night last week. So far haven't noticed any of the negative side effects but I haven't noticed any major benefits/improvements to my sleep or my waking up in the morning either. The intention isn't to "quit the habit", but to increase my caffeine sensitivity so that I can more properly use it as an exercise supplement.

Anyway, with this being the case, I began juicing to have some kind of energy spike before boxing club, and it has been working really well. I pulled my noisy spinning juicer out of storage. I feel alert, energized, moreso than when I was drinking tea + honey as my pre workout. Even when I get back on tea, I will try to stick with the juicing habit, at least for my evening workout.

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Excellent work on the major weightloss @JORMBO !! Dunno about what resources your gym offers but, if you've already signed up, I'd start asking questions there (weekly routine, meal plans, personal trainer, etc) because why not? I'm sure they get tons of similar questions all the time. What do you want your "plan" to look like, and what are your intentions? If you want simplicity, stick with a 5 sets of 5 reps structure, split your exercises in half (commonly split across Upper body or Lower body, or split between Pushing exercises and Pulling exercises), and track your reps and weight from week to week. You can overcomplicate a workout routine to the point where it kills your motivation and stalls your gains because you're obsessing over the numbers instead of simply performing the work and trusting the method.
 
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Started JUICING again this week!! No, not drugs but literal juice from carrots, grapefruit, and ginger root. I am taking a break from caffeine (not that I was consuming all that much) to see how it affects me. Last cup of tea was on Friday night last week. So far haven't noticed any of the negative side effects but I haven't noticed any major benefits/improvements to my sleep or my waking up in the morning either. The intention isn't to "quit the habit", but to increase my caffeine sensitivity so that I can more properly use it as an exercise supplement.

Anyway, with this being the case, I began juicing to have some kind of energy spike before boxing club, and it has been working really well. I pulled my noisy spinning juicer out of storage. I feel alert, energized, moreso than when I was drinking tea + honey as my pre workout. Even when I get back on tea, I will try to stick with the juicing habit, at least for my evening workout.

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Excellent work on the major weightloss @JORMBO !! Dunno about what resources your gym offers but, if you've already signed up, I'd start asking questions there (weekly routine, meal plans, personal trainer, etc) because why not? I'm sure they get tons of similar questions all the time. What do you want your "plan" to look like, and what are your intentions? If you want simplicity, stick with a 5 sets of 5 reps structure, split your exercises in half (commonly split across Upper body or Lower body, or split between Pushing exercises and Pulling exercises), and track your reps and weight from week to week. You can overcomplicate a workout routine to the point where it kills your motivation and stalls your gains because you're obsessing over the numbers instead of simply performing the work and trusting the method.
I'm aiming for getting my body fat really low then putting on some muscle mass. I'd like to look & feel good and be powerful too. I'm also willing to work on it as many days as it is ideal without hurting myself. I will keep the 5 sets/5 reps and splitting upper & lower body in mind. That is good advice.
 
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Don't forget cardio and don't forget to cut out sugar, if you're specifically aiming for fat loss. The body won't pull from fat storage when insulin is high.
 
Don't forget cardio and don't forget to cut out sugar, if you're specifically aiming for fat loss. The body won't pull from fat storage when insulin is high.
I dumped sugar last summer. That was when I started dropping weight much easier. That stuff is evil. I'm still doing cardio too. I will need it since I am training for tough mudder. I figure once I get rid of the last bit of fat I want to I can switch more towards weights and mix cardio in a few times a week too. I want to go to 5-6 days a week exercise mode.
 
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Decent and straightforward video on the concept of "workload" or what the videomaker calls "work capacity". I'm sure many of you are already familiar w the concept especially @VlaudTheImpaler who does a lot of volume work. My own introduction to this concept years ago was doing 1-2 mile kettlebell walks, which is a completely different sort of beast than lifting/swinging a kettlebell in the gym. The nice part is that -- as long as you don't totally wipe yourself out -- increasing your work capacity can be done as a supplement to your existing workout routine and does not have to replace it if you don't want to change too much.

tl;dw if you do a lot of reps / distance / volume, you gain resilience against injury and improve your recovery speed which is especially useful to lifters aiming at max hypertrophy
 


Decent and straightforward video on the concept of "workload" or what the videomaker calls "work capacity". I'm sure many of you are already familiar w the concept especially @VlaudTheImpaler who does a lot of volume work. My own introduction to this concept years ago was doing 1-2 mile kettlebell walks, which is a completely different sort of beast than lifting/swinging a kettlebell in the gym. The nice part is that -- as long as you don't totally wipe yourself out -- increasing your work capacity can be done as a supplement to your existing workout routine and does not have to replace it if you don't want to change too much.

tl;dw if you do a lot of reps / distance / volume, you gain resilience against injury and improve your recovery speed which is especially useful to lifters aiming at max hypertrophy

This is perfect really. It's what I've been doing for my upper body for a while now and I've just recently started the journey with my lower body after a long break since getting my lower spine in order and working on flexibility. I'm starting off doing hundreds of stair climbs a day. We have a stair climb machine that one of my wife's clients gifted us and this helps. Doing this I focus on muscle chain activation in my glutes as this is my weak spot. This has also helped condition my knees really well which I also have issues with every once in a while from years of laying tile in not so great knee pads. (Thanks Dad...) Anyway, I'll slowly work my way back to the lower body Ido portal animal movements and that's probably where I'll stay. As an armwrestler I don't need huge legs and I'd honestly rather all that weight go to where it matters in my weight class.

I also wanted to say that this method used in the equation of an arm wrestling lifestyle has lead to steady growth in my arms, hands and wrist. Especially lately as my arms don't get the nerve shock anymore which lets me do more. Heck, even the 50 pushups a day are slowly helping my dip chest to expand...

Which reminds me... I've been putting this off haha. I don't quite know how to say it but I think I might have some sort of body dysmorphia... A couple practices ago I was in the middle of a match with my teacher. When my friend walks up to the table with measuring tape and starts measuring my bicep out of the blue. He goes, "Dude, you look huge lately." I said, "They're only 13" ." My wife had measured out of curiosity several months ago but didn't know what she was doing (and neither did I) lol. I don't even really care about numbers and such. I don't even know what is average for 5' 9" 174lbs. and what not. But my friend looks at me with this look in his eyes and says, "Bro, you're retarded if you think you're only 13" ..." He measured and they're 16 1/4"... Look, I don't know if that's good or bad but here's the thing, he measured his and mine are bigger... But to me, mine look smaller and his look huge... After he said that, I just burst out laughing in disbelief and said, "Holy crap, I think I have body dysmorphia..." He then measured my forearms and they're 14 3/4, for those wondering...

NOW, I have a theory... Maybe I don't have dysmorphia. For one, I never really compare myself to anyone physically, neither in my head or in a mirror. In fact, I don't think I've ever worked out in a room with mirrors with other dudes present so there's nothing for my brain to compare. However, I can size people up pretty well when it comes to determining strength and capability, which now seems odd... Secondly, like I said before, I've never, ever, been into body size numbers. The only numbers I know are for clothes haha. Thirdly, I have pretty long arms, longer than most of the other guys who are taller than me. So maybe the long arms just don't look as yuge to me as other dudes with shorter arms? Fourthly... Maybe, because I've had to neglect other areas of my body due to my back and perhaps bad/different genetics, I really don't look the greatest/most aesthetic but I just have big arms, but my brain won't let me see it? (Wait... That's dysmorphia isn't it? Ugh. haha.)... I don't actually like looking at myself or taking photo's or going shirtless because I don't think I look all that great. It's something I've had to force myself to do and now I've pretty much gotten over it and just live my life (No small part due to this thread where I post vids and stuff with me in it, so thanks guys). But since I never keep track of things like this, it just hit me hard haha.

Anyway, just wanted to get that out, hopefully me talking about my issues helps someone else. I think it's really important to become fearless. To do what you can and just get on with living.

 
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Decent and straightforward video on the concept of "workload" or what the videomaker calls "work capacity". I'm sure many of you are already familiar w the concept especially @VlaudTheImpaler who does a lot of volume work. My own introduction to this concept years ago was doing 1-2 mile kettlebell walks, which is a completely different sort of beast than lifting/swinging a kettlebell in the gym. The nice part is that -- as long as you don't totally wipe yourself out -- increasing your work capacity can be done as a supplement to your existing workout routine and does not have to replace it if you don't want to change too much.

tl;dw if you do a lot of reps / distance / volume, you gain resilience against injury and improve your recovery speed which is especially useful to lifters aiming at max hypertrophy

Sounds like I've been doing this, or something like this, for the past month or so without even realizing it. I start off each workout doing a single set, but high rep range, of squats or lunges. Over time I've been slowly increasing the number of reps. Nothing amazing, mind you, maybe 30 reps with just the 45lb bar. My legs have always been my weakest body part and that's only gotten worse with age. I then follow up with an equal number of cleans, again just using the bar, before moving on to my actual workout.
 
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Keepin at it everyone?

No significant changes for me, other than a bit of skin/fat loss. I've been keeping with the high-volume bodyweight stuff for about a month now, a few hundred squats / leg-lunges per day, as well as about 200 pushups, distributed throughout the morning/early afternoon. It's making a difference in boxing club (which serves as my primary Test to see where my fitness is).
 
Last friday I got my daily workout in, but wasn't feeling too hot after. Later that day, went for my evening walk with the wife and really felt out of it - didn't even complete the full walk. Had a twinge in my chest and my left arm ached, felt weak and tired, which immediately made me think heart problems, but it was such a weak sensation that I didn't take it seriously enough to go to the ER. Got home, took an aspirin, and chilled. Not been feeling great since, and am taking it easy while I wait to get in to see my doc. Sucks.
 
Oblique veins 😩👌

dat core work pays off bruddahs

Also March/April marks 2 years since lockdowns, 2 years since I started growing out my hair/beard, and 2 years since I nabbed a kettlebell and a set of gym rings and began exercising every day at home. I don't have a before/after pic but I'm definitely in the best shape of my life. High-school me would've been envious of current me's fitness.

Praise God for carrying me through the grind. There's nothing more important than the consistent grind. The sets/reps, the tools, the methodology.... none of that matters nearly as much as the consistent grind.
 
Had practice twice last week, once on Tuesday and again on Sat... Sat was with Alex and a couple other heavy hitters. My body definitely isn't adapted to table practice more than twice a week yet as I certainly didn't feel 100% walking in and I was super sore towards the end. Just couldn't give my all, specifically my shoulder lock was giving out way before it normally does. However, table time is the best thing for training, especially for a tourney, if you can handle it. I won't be able to do that every week because of schedules and what not but I'm gonna try to as much as I can. Surprisingly today I feel better than I normally do after practice so I guess that's my body starting to adapt.

Anyway, gonna prob get one more pump in tonight. My bro sent me the vid below and he was all excited. Apparently he really likes watching the interviewer but I'd never heard of him. Turns out to be an excellent watch for those interested in high level competition.

 
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Keep up the good work @VlaudTheImpaler !! Thanks for sharing the video

Yesterday (Sunday) and today were both in the 40F range, with bright winter sunshine. Feels amazing. I spent at least 3 hours outside on the porch / front driveway, and I've been outside for about 1 hr today. Skipping rope, bodyweight squats, stretching, hanging on the rings, knee-ups, planks, leg lunges, hollow body holds, top-hold on the rings, crunches, medicine ball isometrics / holds, stuff like that.
 
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I spy with my little eye...



My pulley system and handles! That's the greatest arm wrestler ever right there using pretty much our exact stuff and this is the first anyone has seen his setup. I can't believe that's my exact pulley system... Dudes got the money to buy any piece of equipment he wants and he gets the cheap (pricewise) one I've got.