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Hands down worst cheating AI was in Ultimate Mortal Kombat. It was so blatant that it was reading your inputs. They didn't even try to hide it.
 
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Hands down worst cheating AI was in Ultimate Mortal Kombat. It was so blatant that it was reading your inputs. They didn't even try to hide it.
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Never played that one but with UMK being based on MK3, which was already blatantly unfaid, I have no problem believing that.

Snes nes said:
that ai made me kinda mad
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Definitely a dark chapter of the past. As much as I love retro games, AIs like the ones in fighting games sucked money out of players in arcades.
 
This year my new-to-me fighting game will be Granblue Fantasy: Versus, now that all the characters are available. Really excited to play around with the roster with which I have zero familiarity.

Even though I'm a big Guilty Gear fan, I skipped Strive and will wait for the inevitable Strive ++ ^ DingDong Edition.

As an aside, arcade sticks with a solid case are a good investment. I bought two Hori VLX sticks awhile ago, sometime in 2016, and both are as sturdy as the day I bought em. If needed, I could gut em and replace the internals with updated / aftermarket electronics to expand the compatibility to other platforms. The price on the VLX has doubled/tripled in that period of time. Even the "cheap" Hori Hayabusas with the plastic shell are going for ~$200 which is crazy to me. Meanwhile I've gone through several Dualshock 4s and Nintendo Switch Joycons in the same period of time.
 
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This year my new-to-me fighting game will be Granblue Fantasy: Versus, now that all the characters are available. Really excited to play around with the roster with which I have zero familiarity.

Even though I'm a big Guilty Gear fan, I skipped Strive and will wait for the inevitable Strive ++ ^ DingDong Edition.

As an aside, arcade sticks with a solid case are a good investment. I bought two Hori VLX sticks awhile ago, sometime in 2016, and both are as sturdy as the day I bought em. If needed, I could gut em and replace the internals with updated / aftermarket electronics to expand the compatibility to other platforms. The price on the VLX has doubled/tripled in that period of time. Even the "cheap" Hori Hayabusas with the plastic shell are going for ~$200 which is crazy to me. Meanwhile I've gone through several Dualshock 4s and Nintendo Switch Joycons in the same period of time.
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yeah i'm doing the same with strive and how much did your sticks cost you
bunta0 said:
Never played that one but with UMK being based on MK3, which was already blatantly unfaid, I have no problem believing that.


Definitely a dark chapter of the past. As much as I love retro games, AIs like the ones in fighting games sucked money out of players in arcades.
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oh yeah mk2 ai was terrible. i hated that ai
 
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Snes nes said:
yeah i'm doing the same with strive and how much did your sticks cost you
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The VLX were each $250, the Real Arcade Pro N was somewhere around $150, I forget the exact price.

IMO the best path is to spend good money on a good case, or to build a case yourself. The internals can always be swapped out.
 
DonDonDonPata said:
The VLX were each $250, the Real Arcade Pro N was somewhere around $150, I forget the exact price.

IMO the best path is to spend good money on a good case, or to build a case yourself. The internals can always be swapped out.
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so all i need is a good case and put the peripherals i want inside? is it cheaper that way?

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also a relative lent this to me a while back idk if my version is any good it has a serial port on the back and doesn't have the trackball in it should i swap out the parts?
 
Snes nes said:
so all i need is a good case and put the peripherals i want inside? is it cheaper that way?

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also a relative lent this to me a while back idk if my version is any good it has a serial port on the back and doesn't have the trackball in it should i swap out the parts?
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Yeah the most expensive part is the case. I'd only swap out the other parts if you don't like em. Pretty inexpensive to switch the balltop, the stick, and/or the buttons (less than $40 for a complete swap-out), and also very easy. For a swap of the electronics, look into a universal board like the one below:

Fighting Board Series - Brook Gaming

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Brooks also sells converters (e.g. PS4 to Dreamcast or something like that) that are cheap and easy to use if you have a licensed stick.
 
lock2k said:
Always knew the AI was rubbish but really, MK2 and UMK3 are on another level of douchebaggery.
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The annoying thing about MK2 is they didn't go full steal your money on stage 2 with the AI until later revisions, which unfortunately is what every home port is based on.

SF2 always obviously cheated (AI throwing out charge moves while walking forward and shit) but it didn't get truly stupid until SSF2T. You couldn't even attempt to fight for real, you basically had to exploit AI holes and loops to win.

I prefer it when the last boss steals all your money but most didn't want you on the machine that long.
 
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Yeah the most expensive part is the case. I'd only swap out the other parts if you don't like em. Pretty inexpensive to switch the balltop, the stick, and/or the buttons (less than $40 for a complete swap-out), and also very easy. For a swap of the electronics, look into a universal board like the one below:

Fighting Board Series - Brook Gaming

The world of Fighting Board. Check out our Fighting Board, Fightstick, Arcade Stick and more.
www.brookaccessory.com

Brooks also sells converters (e.g. PS4 to Dreamcast or something like that) that are cheap and easy to use if you have a licensed stick.
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you ever heard of someone using a keyboard to play fighting games? Its how i've been playing them for the last year
 
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Snes nes said:
you ever heard of someone using a keyboard to play fighting games? Its how i've been playing them for the last year
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Yeah I know a lotta people who play fighting games as well as shmups with a mechanical keyboard. Whatever gets the job done, I'd say!
 
DonDonDonPata said:
Yeah I know a lotta people who play fighting games as well as shmups with a mechanical keyboard. Whatever gets the job done, I'd say!
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its cheap and actually better than a controller i've used it as a option for just about everything i play. Turn based rpgs seem like they were designed for a keyboard. Only motion that is troublesome on it seems to be dp motions. Also what guilty gear do you like to play
 
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Snes nes said:
its cheap and actually better than a controller i've used it as a option for just about everything i play. Turn based rpgs seem like they were designed for a keyboard. Only motion that is troublesome on it seems to be dp motions. Also what guilty gear do you like to play
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I either play GG Accent Core or GG Rev2 depending on the mood.
 
lock2k said:
It did, but it didn't take itself seriously. Ot was more of a b movie sort of experience. Like an opponent exploding in MK3 and having 5 torsos and some wacky shit. Nowadays MK is way more torture porn than it was. I preferred the snuff film, B movie kind of experience fused with the fake oriental stuff.
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I play as Johnny Cage and laugh my fuggin balls off when he busts out his Oscar award and rips it into the opponents guts and cracks their skull with it
 
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does anyone think a f2p fighter would actually work? I personally would think it would become the brunt of a joke
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It could work.

I could see Darkstalkers going that route since Capcom doesn't want to invest in it. Might as well make it ftp with a rotating character and you can buy the whole pack or some shit.

Especially because most fighting game players (clowns) these days like to play just one character.

Back in the day we played with every single motherfucker available in a fighting game taking turns. None of that maining shit.
 
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Snes nes said:
does anyone think a f2p fighter would actually work? I personally would think it would become the brunt of a joke
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"Work" as in be profitable? yeah, it could work for awhile.

Personally, I play 90% of my fighting games on the couch with my friends / my kids. I want a singular product that's mine to keep (more or less). I do not want some monthly subscription with gacha elements. Going f2p only (kinda) makes sense from the eSports perspective but fighting games are more than just the esport competitive scene.
 
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"Work" as in be profitable? yeah, it could work for awhile.

Personally, I play 90% of my fighting games on the couch with my friends / my kids. I want a singular product that's mine to keep (more or less). I do not want some monthly subscription with gacha elements. Going f2p only (kinda) makes sense from the eSports perspective but fighting games are more than just the esport competitive scene.
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thats pretty much what my opinion is. For the most part I just play fighters in a sort of casual sense or just go into training mode just to see what I can do then go online for a bit if the netcodes good.
lock2k said:
It could work.

I could see Darkstalkers going that route since Capcom doesn't want to invest in it. Might as well make it ftp with a rotating character and you can buy the whole pack or some shit.

Especially because most fighting game players (clowns) these days like to play just one character.

Back in the day we played with every single motherfucker available in a fighting game taking turns. None of that maining shit.
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I have problems with it being f2p like hows the game gonna be skillbased if you just dump money into it to be good at it?
 
well SFV had everything a F2P game would have, with fighting money stuff and its nerfing, FOMO content, except for the initial price tag but that's capcom scalping their playerbase imo.

it's also the least enjoyable sf game I've ever playeed.
 
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thats pretty much what my opinion is. For the most part I just play fighters in a sort of casual sense or just go into training mode just to see what I can do then go online for a bit if the netcodes good.

I have problems with it being f2p like hows the game gonna be skillbased if you just dump money into it to be good at it?
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It can be f2p as in having like two characters from start and you can buy your favorite character to play. But you can plan against them all on CPU and stuff like that. I personally think it's shitty but since people like to pick one character and stick to it it might work.

I never stick to one character and I fucking hate the SFV system that only lets you have a main while playing online. I liked to blindly pick characters when playing SFIV online for example. I hate this FGC culture.
 
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It can be f2p as in having like two characters from start and you can buy your favorite character to play. But you can plan against them all on CPU and stuff like that. I personally think it's shitty but since people like to pick one character and stick to it it might work.

I never stick to one character and I fucking hate the SFV system that only lets you have a main while playing online. I liked to blindly pick characters when playing SFIV online for example. I hate this FGC culture.
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thats already been done with doa5 and killer instinct. In that sense I'd be down for it. Also I don't see why your against having a main or understand why people do it. Most of them play a single character because theirs so much to take in in some of these fighters like guilty gear.
 
Snes nes said:
thats already been done with doa5 and killer instinct. In that sense I'd be down for it. Also I don't see why your against having a main or understand why people do it. Most of them play a single character because theirs so much to take in in some of these fighters like guilty gear.
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I don't understand why have so much variety and just stick to one character. I think it's dumb. You can dominate a lot of play styles if you want to.

I'm a great Gief, Blanka, Balrog, Chun, T. Hawk and Bison player.

At SF2 I play well with all the characters. I'm obsessed to it to this day.

Also, the thrill of going into a match with a character you don't dominate so much is awesome to me. I love random select.
 
I remember Namco tried F2P Tekken with Tekken Revolution. Their scam was requiring virtual tokens for matches. These were limited to a certain amount and used tokens would slowly "recharge" over time. To get around this you could pay real money for tokens instead of waiting. It failed.


Anyway I don't trust these companies with f2p. You know they'll overprice characters so unlocking half the cast would end up costing more than having bought a full retail release.
 
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I remember Namco tried F2P Tekken with Tekken Revolution. Their scam was requiring virtual tokens for matches. These were limited to a certain amount and used tokens would slowly "recharge" over time. To get around this you could pay real money for tokens instead of waiting. It failed.


Anyway I don't trust these companies with f2p. You know they'll overprice characters so unlocking half the cast would end up costing more than having bought a full retail release.
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I remember that, what a shite little game.
 
lock2k said:
I don't understand why have so much variety and just stick to one character. I think it's dumb. You can dominate a lot of play styles if you want to.

I'm a great Gief, Blanka, Balrog, Chun, T. Hawk and Bison player.

At SF2 I play well with all the characters. I'm obsessed to it to this day.

Also, the thrill of going into a match with a character you don't dominate so much is awesome to me. I love random select.
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oh I see you played that one more than I have obviously the only two street fighters i've tried getting into were 3rd strike and alpha 3. I dropped third strike pretty quickly though its not a street fighter for street fighter fans if that makes any sense alpha 3 is much better. 2 was good but I don't know why but I just didn't like that one a whole bunch.
 
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oh I see you played that one more than I have obviously the only two street fighters i've tried getting into were 3rd strike and alpha 3. I dropped third strike pretty quickly though its not a street fighter for street fighter fans if that makes any sense alpha 3 is much better. 2 was good but I don't know why but I just didn't like that one a whole bunch.
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I still love Alpha 3 and Third Strike. I own all Street Fighters in existence, even the dreaded EX ones (which are among my favorites). Alpha 3 is still a hell of a game, I adore it.
 
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I still love Alpha 3 and Third Strike. I own all Street Fighters in existence, even the dreaded EX ones (which are among my favorites). Alpha 3 is still a hell of a game, I adore it.
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wait even the street fighter the movie game?
 
I'd like to pick up the all-in-one version of GranBlue Versus released in Japan this month. I watched the game from a distance as they added character after character via paid DLC. Arc System Works did the same thing with Dragonball Fighter Z (which I own), BlazBlue Cross Tag (which I don't own), and so I wanted to wait.

Anyone play it before? It's technically a few years old already. It's supposed to be on the simple side, more like Battle Fantasia (which I have on PS3). I don't have any interest or knowledge in the GranBlue franchise, but since this game came out I've been wanting to try it. Seems fun based on gameplay footage.
 
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I'd like to pick up the all-in-one version of GranBlue Versus released in Japan this month. I watched the game from a distance as they added character after character via paid DLC. Arc System Works did the same thing with Dragonball Fighter Z (which I own), BlazBlue Cross Tag (which I don't own), and so I wanted to wait.

Anyone play it before? It's technically a few years old already. It's supposed to be on the simple side, more like Battle Fantasia (which I have on PS3). I don't have any interest or knowledge in the GranBlue franchise, but since this game came out I've been wanting to try it. Seems fun based on gameplay footage.
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you playing off steam? I don't own the game though but maybe we could play using the steam link thingymabober
 
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