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Christianity OT | Gold Necklaces With A T On It
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Nope, but my mom's side of the family is Utahn Mormon. Just curious
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I'm agnostic. Can't prove he exists or doesn't exist.
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Was at mass a little early today, thought I'd sneak a pic for the thread. Priest was very humorous and on point today.
Onto the gym I go. Christ is king
Onto the gym I go. Christ is king
I went to mass for the first time in like 10 years this morning. Felt pretty good. I should have went to confession first I guess but I'll be doing that on Wednesday.
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For me, I take my time at the pew whenever kneeling to "confess" and ask for forgiveness directly from God. Don't say a word, but do it all in my head. It's the most therapeutic thing about attending. Do that, sing some goofy songs, and listen to the priest quote from the bible and explain what a specific passage means. See if I can apply it to my life etc.
Never tried confession proper. I got a lot of baggage too bro. Hope you heal from whatever brought you back into the faith and you continue to go to mass.
Nice NIN avatar btw, I have two NIN tats myself lol.
The way out is through.
Cheers.
Did the church have a projector Teezzy? In Australia all the Catholic churches for at least the last 10 years have had those installed. I wouldn't be against having hymn books though, it helps to keep your focus on whats actually happening rather than staring at another screen.Was at mass a little early today, thought I'd sneak a pic for the thread. Priest was very humorous and on point today.
Onto the gym I go. Christ is king
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Nah, we got hymn books here
My dad's non-denominational church had a projector though
I don't like all that jazz. More traditionalism plz
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Just go! Most priests know how to gently guide first time confessions and there's literally almost nothing you can say to them that most haven't already heard before. There is nothing like the first time receiving communion in a state of grace after a good confession. Unlocking the relationship between confession and communion is the key to supercharging your devotion and will immediately set you on the real adventure that Christ invites us all on across the ages through his Church. Saints John and James both exhorted us to confess our sins in their epistles in the New Testament and we can trust Saint John when he wrote in his Gospel that Christ really did give his Apostles the charism to bring his forgiveness directly to us in the sacrament of confession. When you're in that box, it's not the priest that absolves you but our Lord himself! You can totally feel the Holy Spirit walking with you as you leave and head out into the world. The best is when the priest ends exhorting you: "Give thanks to the Lord, for he is good!"
His mercy endures forever!
Just a few minor corrections, because I know you are paraphrasing but the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox absolutely do believe in the canonical teaching authority of the legitimate hierarchy and part of the "schism" is how hard they hold onto certain authoritative definitions. The problem is that, and I don't see a way around it, without the papacy, they've effectively lost the ability to hold more ecumenical councils to define dogmas and anathematize errors. The loss of papacy in some ways appears to equate not only to a loss of the Apostolic teaching office, but even to truly be a communal Church, in that they have all these asymmetrical communions and excommunications without any mechanism to resolve them. We're in the middle of one right now with the Greco-Russian schism, where Russian Orthodox are discouraged from attending Greek Orthodox sacraments, the other side deems the inverse as okay, and the rest of the ethno-national jurisdictions are left to decide how best to make heads or tails of it. What's more, this episode started because the Ecumenical Patriarch unilaterally exercised the universal jurisdiction which he and his bishops claim does not exist.
For what it's worth, the Roman Catholic Church, together with the Eastern and Oriental Churches still or back in communion with it, does teach the legitimacy of the sacraments and priesthood outside its own formal canonical structures, within certain limits. What counts is matter and form - a Protestant who baptizes someone in the name of the Trinity with the intent of bringing them to Christ bestows a valid baptism. Orthodox and Coptic rites of confession and communion are valid as long as they are celebrated by a priest with succession from the Apostles, but communion with those Churches brings about problems because schism is a sin against charity, the love for your fellow man grounded upon your love of God. If you as a Lutheran converted to Greek Orthodoxy, they would only confirm ("chrismate") you and you would be a full member in good standing, but the Russians would think you're still not even a Christian because you've never been validly baptized. This lack of charity is where I really can't consider Eastern Orthodoxy a true communion. Saint John's letters connect the new commandment to love one another with deference to the legitimate hierarchy and their doctrine, and I think these Eastern Orthodox tensions illustrate the connection between charity and the formal structures instituted by our Lord.
Yeah I was more or less trying to summarize and paraphrase. I understand that the Orthodox church believes in hierarchy (very much so) but it's not quite the same as how the Roman Catholics view it. Than you for going into detail (in this reply as well as what follows below)
That's fair. I know that depending on your denomination, you still become a catechumen when converting to Orthodoxy or Catholicism but you don't necessarily have to get re-baptized.
Well both the Orthodox and Catholics cling very hard to "succession from the apostles" while Protestants are too loose about it, that is, they don't pay any mind to it. When the disciples are arguing about who would be greatest, Jesus put a child among them and said we must become like this child, and welcome children, in order to be ourselves welcomed into the kingdom of heaven. Jesus also washed the disciples feet and explained many times "the first shall be last", so it seems vain for our churches to cling to succession and "authority" above a certain degree. That said, the chief reason WHY we have a Bible and the writings of the saints is because people in the church "clung to succession" for 100s of years against heresy and gov't takeover. And we are supposed to put ourselves under the authority of a "head" just as Christ is head of the church, so ecclesiastical authority is obviously Biblical for the individual christian to follow.
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It is so strange seeing Christian things on youtube. I always thought if someone was interested they would just ask a priest or something.
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This appeals more to my inner zoomer
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I used to call myself agnostic in my 20s. I thought it made the most sense but I was wrong. I was really lost. I didn't know what to believe, never attempted to look for God through scripture or prayer, didn't recognize acts of kindness or self-reflect much. It wasn't until early last year when I started going to church that I came to understand God and the atonement of Jesus.
To believe in God and his only begotten son Jesus Christ, who died for our sins, to me it means always moving forward and realizing our potential because He loves us. To believe in God means to believe in love and if we live with love then He is always with us.
And it's important to never lose faith. It's faith that helps us to take the first step on the journey to change, and building on our faith so that we continue growing, learning to forgive and helping others.
To believe in God and his only begotten son Jesus Christ, who died for our sins, to me it means always moving forward and realizing our potential because He loves us. To believe in God means to believe in love and if we live with love then He is always with us.
And it's important to never lose faith. It's faith that helps us to take the first step on the journey to change, and building on our faith so that we continue growing, learning to forgive and helping others.
Has anyone read about the connections between El Elyon, or simply El, the supreme god of the Canaanites, and the Hebrew God?
Abraham was blessed by a priest of El Elyon, and when God revealed himself to Abraham it was as "El Shaddai", Lord of the mountains (an epithet of El) and then by his true name "YHVH". And then God promised Canaan to the Isra-el-lites. The Old Testament is full of -el words too.
Abraham was blessed by a priest of El Elyon, and when God revealed himself to Abraham it was as "El Shaddai", Lord of the mountains (an epithet of El) and then by his true name "YHVH". And then God promised Canaan to the Isra-el-lites. The Old Testament is full of -el words too.
At least with the words ending in -el, that could be more of a dialect/local language thing. It wasn't such a large area, some words were probably shared around a lot.
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El Elyon means "God most high" in Hebrew and is used throughout the Old Testament to refer to the God of Israel. Shaddai is similarly used as well although the original meaning appears to have been lost. Melchizedek was not a pagan Canaanite priest, but like Balam or the exorcist referenced in Mark 9, one of the mysterious individuals in the Bible who have a valid ministry from God outside of the canonical priesthood. From what I understand, modern Jewish scholars think Melchizedek was Shem, a son of Noah.
I'm not familiar with the Canaanite pantheon but Wikipedia says that the idea that El Elyon was one of their gods was first proposed in the 20th century by Wellhausen, who should not be taken seriously. I can only speculate that, like the Samaritans in the New Testament or the Eastern religions today, the Canaanites may have worshipped God together with their idols.
I'm not familiar with the Canaanite pantheon but Wikipedia says that the idea that El Elyon was one of their gods was first proposed in the 20th century by Wellhausen, who should not be taken seriously. I can only speculate that, like the Samaritans in the New Testament or the Eastern religions today, the Canaanites may have worshipped God together with their idols.
Wifes friend back from Israel and gave this.
It will never cease to amaze me how my wife, a loving, caring, too trusting, strict Orthodox loves getting railed hard as possible in the butt.
God bless Russian ladies
It will never cease to amaze me how my wife, a loving, caring, too trusting, strict Orthodox loves getting railed hard as possible in the butt.
God bless Russian ladies
Are you saying that isn't directly from Heaven's gift shop?Wifes friend back from Israel and gave this.
It will never cease to amaze me how my wife, a loving, caring, too trusting, strict Orthodox loves getting railed hard as possible in the butt.
God bless Russian ladies
Because your wife bought it, you have to display it all proudly. I think on the fridge, like a child's drawing.
I dont understand your post.
I also don't like your tone
Speak to me again like that and you will get a knuckle sandwich.
In your face.
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I made it to mass again on Sunday. The week went by so quick, feels like yesterday. Looks like I have picked up a healthy habit.
They actually asked me to help do the collection baskets when I walked in the church, never had that happen before. I guess I look like a grown up now.
They actually asked me to help do the collection baskets when I walked in the church, never had that happen before. I guess I look like a grown up now.
I made it to confession on Saturday (first time in 10+ years). My penance was to read the first chapter of The Way by Josemaria Escriva.
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sounds like a lenient punishment to me. It could be worse like you forced to read a hillary clinton book or something.
the priest actually made a comment along the lines of "well, we are not here to punish" and then he paused for a second and came up with the book chapter.
I have been feeling really close with the lord lately. I'm always pretty tight with him but lately I have just been incredibly grateful and talking to him a lot. I am blessed for the way things have turned out in my life.
The past few months were dark but made so much easier knowing he had my back. I couldn't have imagined going through this with out him.
I had an incredible service yesterday. I am going to try and pop in here more often on Sunday's.
Anyways I hope you all are growing in your walk with the lord.
The past few months were dark but made so much easier knowing he had my back. I couldn't have imagined going through this with out him.
I had an incredible service yesterday. I am going to try and pop in here more often on Sunday's.
Anyways I hope you all are growing in your walk with the lord.
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I've been going to a modern looking church like that too. I miss the old school churches that look like they haven't changed since the 50s.Was at mass a little early today, thought I'd sneak a pic for the thread. Priest was very humorous and on point today.
Onto the gym I go. Christ is king
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Really well done documentary released yesterday on how the Church was changed into what most of us grew up and why:
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This one has been around since my parents were kids, probably even longer. I live in their old neighborhood, fittingly enough. I don't have an exact year, but I miss a lot of their older decor they had in the 90s (my grandmother used to take me here). Gimme tradition plz lol, I agree
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Most Australian churches are the modern style. I envy the Europeans who have all the gothic churches.