AI gonna change the music industry

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We won't need singers or even covers anymore. You will be able to just AI anyone onto your song. Singers can just become lazy and AI new songs without even having to actually sing.

I was actually thinking of this and wanting to use the Presidents AI and put it over rap songs LOL.
 
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I usually don't listen to music with lyrics. Classical and electronic music should work well with AI.
 
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AJUMP23 said:
Auto tune already changed the industry.
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Ya but this is another level. Imagine your some crappy singer and instead of auto tune to correct your pitch, you just take Celine Dion or Mariah Carey and plop it over your singing. Then tweek it even further with software and you can basically have the perfect song.

Its literally that scene from south park when Randy's voice turned into LORDEs.



You can do that right now, and like the guy said in 5 years time it will probably be point and click with a massive database of artists voices. You could ask ChatGTP to write you a love song, then go to Celine Dions modules, grab a instrumental and bam press a few buttons and you would have a complete song sung by Celine Dion and you basically did nothing except press some buttons on you phone.
 
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That shit sounds terrible, but in 10 years has a good chance of being borderline imperceptible. This technology is evil.
 
Some of the problem here is that record companies have been pushing out crap with autotune, quantised to death, with no human soul. When the music already sounds like a robot made it, how will we know when it's AI? If humans want to compete they need to bring humanity back to their work. In the same way that photography led to painters abandoning realism in favour of the abstract, I can see the existence of AI music pushing human-created music into a different direction, knowing that they can't beat AI at robotic-sounding music.
 
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Within 2 or 3 years there is going to he an entire industry of AI music. Its going to be even more disruptive than Napster and MP3s.

Instead of downloading a song for free anyone will be able to download a module and make their own song sung by any singer and instruments played by any musician.

The music industry is going to be forever changed.
 
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250K streams. What happens when something goes viral and hits millions of streams ?

What if an AI song gets more streams than the real deal ?
 
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Pop music has been so stale and shitty lately and judging by the experiments I've been doing with openai and music I must say it's going to probably be better. The stuff I was able to come up with the help of AI is far more human sounding than the shit that is on the airwaves.
 
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lock2k said:
Drake sucks so much it's better to have a Robot doing it than him.
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That's the thing - modern music is so heavily quantised, auto tuned, with 100 takes stitched together as to remove all human elements from the work, making it ripe for computer takeover. A computer will never create those wonderful songs from the 60s and 70s before computers were a thing, but they'll easily replace pricks like Drake.
 
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HariSeldon said:
That's the thing - modern music is so heavily quantised, auto tuned, with 100 takes stitched together as to remove all human elements from the work, making it ripe for computer takeover. A computer will never create those wonderful songs from the 60s and 70s before computers were a thing, but they'll easily replace pricks like Drake.
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But if you use old composers, it can. I created some breathtaking fake Beatles with AI in my experiments and it sounds human with all of the flaws, etc. It's amazing how the machines can emulate the real thing while human composers nowadays are more machine like than machines themselves. It's really weird.
 
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lock2k said:
Pop music has been so stale and shitty lately and judging by the experiments I've been doing with openai and music I must say it's going to probably be better. The stuff I was able to come up with the help of AI is far more human sounding than the shit that is on the airwaves.
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Any good guides/YT vids to get a noob started on this type of stuff ? I kinda want to play around with it.
 
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But if you use old composers, it can. I created some breathtaking fake Beatles with AI in my experiments and it sounds human with all of the flaws, etc. It's amazing how the machines can emulate the real thing while human composers nowadays are more machine like than machines themselves. It's really weird.
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To me this is whats going to be most interesting. Having AI do shitty rap is easy. When you start making AI for real bands like Led Zepplin or Queen or Divas like Whitney etc...

Is AI able to play AI instruments and you can get a whole AI band ?

I can imagine in a few years we will have an app where it will write the lyrics the sheet music have an AI band play the whole thing and sing the AI created lyrics.

I also can see this as a great Karokee app where in real time it will replace your voice with which ever famous singer you want.
 
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cryptoadam said:
To me this is whats going to be most interesting. Having AI do shitty rap is easy. When you start making AI for real bands like Led Zepplin or Queen or Divas like Whitney etc...

Is AI able to play AI instruments and you can get a whole AI band ?

I can imagine in a few years we will have an app where it will write the lyrics the sheet music have an AI band play the whole thing and sing the AI created lyrics.

I also can see this as a great Karokee app where in real time it will replace your voice with which ever famous singer you want.
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I don't know about playing, but it can emulate some soulful guitars and stuff like that, it's pretty interesting, and it sounds imprecise like a human would. Really interesting stuff.

cryptoadam said:
Any good guides/YT vids to get a noob started on this type of stuff ? I kinda want to play around with it.
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Yeah:

 
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lock2k said:
I don't know about playing, but it can emulate some soulful guitars and stuff like that, it's pretty interesting, and it sounds imprecise like a human would. Really interesting stuff.



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Thanks gonna check it out.

Lets see where were at in 5 years.

When they invented the MP3 i doubt they imagined CDs would basically disapear and you would be able to stream all your music for pennies.

I see this as being as disruptive of the MP3/napster. Once this gets into app form that a 5 year old can operate with 1000s of modules of every artist its going to be nuts.
 
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AISIS is an alternate reality concept album where the band's 95-97 line-up continued to write music, or perhaps all got together years later to write a record akin to the first 3 albums, and only now has the master DAT tape from that session surfaced. We're bored of waiting for Oasis to reform, so we've got an AI modelled Liam Gallagher (inspired by @JekSpek) to step in and help out on some tunes that were written during lockdown 2021 for a short lived, but much loved band called Breezer. It seemed to be a perfect match, and we love how some of these have turned out. We have a 2nd bunch of songs to come if you want to hear more, please let us know in the comments. Note: We've thoroughly enjoyed convincing our mates these are actually Oasis lost tunes, and recommend you try the same too.

PLEASE NOTE: THE MUSIC, LYRICS, RECORDING IS ORIGINAL BY THE BAND BREEZER (@breezerfever) & NOT AI.. THE AI ASPECT IS REPLACING THE ORIGINAL SINGERS VOICE WITH AI LIAM
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I'd say this will work as well as their efforts to stop file sharing. Ie it won't. Eventually a change of model to Spotify et al killed off file sharing as a threat to revenue streams but the result is a music industry working on much smaller margins than before as the gatekeepers of those platforms rake in the cash, and a shift away from 10/10 singles to 6/10 background music. For the life of me I have no idea what the impact will be but I suspect artists will suffer from this, though those who can perform live and do it well will likely still make bank (especially as even now that's the best way to make money in the industry for most artists).
 
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I'd say this will work as well as their efforts to stop file sharing. Ie it won't. Eventually a change of model to Spotify et al killed off file sharing as a threat to revenue streams but the result is a music industry working on much smaller margins than before as the gatekeepers of those platforms rake in the cash, and a shift away from 10/10 singles to 6/10 background music. For the life of me I have no idea what the impact will be but I suspect artists will suffer from this, though those who can perform live and do it well will likely still make bank (especially as even now that's the best way to make money in the industry for most artists).
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It will be a lot like the Napster stuff. The record industry will lean on law makers to ban demonize criminalize this stuff. Propaganda about you wont steal someones voice etc... they will do everything in their power to ban AI music.

Eventually someone will come along and disrupt the industry and then the players will come around to monetizing AI. Like how we saw Apple come out itunes which eventually lead to legal MP3s in the mainstream.

Artist will suffer at first but the big names will make bank. At first it will be the wild west where people are getting copied left and right. At some point though artists voices/play style will he owned and copyrighted and sold.

Where I see this going is in 5 or 10 years for 9.99 a month you can download an app input your lyrics and have a song spit out by Bruce Springstein and with a button you can change it to Bryan Adams or Michael Jackson or for an extra 1.99 get the female pack and change it to Celine Dion.

Record labels will get paid. Big name artist and their estates will get paid for selling their likeness.

Small timers will get screwed until they just find a way to go it o their own and use the tech like how small time bands use spotify and youtube to promote themselves outside of the mainstream.

The real question is legally does someone own their voice ? Is AI different than an impression? If i sang a song as a perfect impression of Micheal Jackson is that illegal and I have to pay a record label ?
 
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It will be a lot like the Napster stuff. The record industry will lean on law makers to ban demonize criminalize this stuff. Propaganda about you wont steal someones voice etc... they will do everything in their power to ban AI music.

Eventually someone will come along and disrupt the industry and then the players will come around to monetizing AI. Like how we saw Apple come out itunes which eventually lead to legal MP3s in the mainstream.

Artist will suffer at first but the big names will make bank. At first it will be the wild west where people are getting copied left and right. At some point though artists voices/play style will he owned and copyrighted and sold.

Where I see this going is in 5 or 10 years for 9.99 a month you can download an app input your lyrics and have a song spit out by Bruce Springstein and with a button you can change it to Bryan Adams or Michael Jackson or for an extra 1.99 get the female pack and change it to Celine Dion.

Record labels will get paid. Big name artist and their estates will get paid for selling their likeness.

Small timers will get screwed until they just find a way to go it o their own and use the tech like how small time bands use spotify and youtube to promote themselves outside of the mainstream.

The real question is legally does someone own their voice ? Is AI different than an impression? If i sang a song as a perfect impression of Micheal Jackson is that illegal and I have to pay a record label ?
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Google Jason Malachi. The plot thickens.
 
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cryptoadam said:
The real question is legally does someone own their voice ? Is AI different than an impression? If i sang a song as a perfect impression of Micheal Jackson is that illegal and I have to pay a record label ?
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There is a subtle difference between you doing an impression and AI - the AI is trained on data generated by the artist - it doesn't create in itself as synthesize based on the artist's work. I'd say a closer parallel is sampling where there is an expectation that the creator of the sampled work is paid for its use in a new song - eg The Verve made no money from Bittersweet Symphony because they ripped off another track and got legally raped for it.
 
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HariSeldon said:
There is a subtle difference between you doing an impression and AI - the AI is trained on data generated by the artist - it doesn't create in itself as synthesize based on the artist's work. I'd say a closer parallel is sampling where there is an expectation that the creator of the sampled work is paid for its use in a new song - eg The Verve made no money from Bittersweet Symphony because they ripped off another track and got legally raped for it.
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I was shockd to learn that Sisqo didn't make a dime from Thong Song just because he used the line Livin La Vida Loca in it. Ricky Martin raped his ass.
 
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