Thread: Oscar nominations to be released today
Juror #2 completely ignored. Wonder if it didn't met their diversity criteria.
 
I liked the first one, but Part 2 honestly felt rushed, esp given DV decided to circumvent the whole Alia issue and condensed the timeline. I legit wish instead of making two films they'd opted to adapt Dune as 3 or 4 season HBO series instead. That way they'd have been able to expand upon the books and the characters in greater detail versus ignore them. A lot of people diss David Lynch's 1984 version, but at least attempted to cover more of the storyline.

Weird for me I felt like Dune 2 really dragged and was long though I loved it. I liked the first one and the second one even more but had to watch the second one multiple times to actually finish it as it really almost felt like 2-3 different plotlines in a single movie.

I'm totally invested in the movies and the Dune series that told more of the backstory which is a mega spoiler/cliffhanger for the entire Dune universe.
 
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Surprisingly, not a dude.

Not surprisingly, one of the most utterly insufferable, fake, narcissistic bags of shit to ever walk on two legs. There are Wicked promo tour videos of her and her almost equally insufferable co-star giving interviews for the media. It was nauseating to watch.

I was teasing but she looks more manly than the men in a documentary I've watched about old African tribes , but I did see bits and pieces of her cry tour with Grande , what a fake
 
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I liked the first one, but Part 2 honestly felt rushed, esp given DV decided to circumvent the whole Alia issue and condensed the timeline. I legit wish instead of making two films they'd opted to adapt Dune as 3 or 4 season HBO series instead. That way they'd have been able to expand upon the books and the characters in greater detail versus ignore them. A lot of people diss David Lynch's 1984 version, but at least attempted to cover more of the storyline.

Dune's writing suffers for the same reason the Napoleon movie's writing suffered. Hollywood is very touchy on glorifying rebellion and masculinity. Paul is supposed to be a seasoned warrior after the time gap and Chani is fine with being his concubine to marry Irulan and secure the throne. Chani is self aware that marriage to her hurts the plan to liberate Arrakis. Instead we're getting twig Paul and a feminist Chani where her intentions don't make sense.
 
Dune's writing suffers for the same reason the Napoleon movie's writing suffered. Hollywood is very touchy on glorifying rebellion and masculinity. Paul is supposed to be a seasoned warrior after the time gap and Chani is fine with being his concubine to marry Irulan and secure the throne. Instead we're getting twig Paul and a feminist Chani.

I haven't watched Napolean, but honestly, I think now we are in the day and age of peak TV drama unless you have quite a tight, compelling story to tell that happily fits within a 2 - 3 hour time frame, then you're far better to think about making a TV series/mini-series versus trying cram in 1000 pages into 120-180 minutes.

I don't necessarily read any broader intentions to it. I believe ultimately DV wants to make Cinematic experiences and for better or worse he decided to go that route. However, I think he dropped the ball with Part 2 because of the compressed timeline, which undercut how things occur in the book.
 
I haven't watched Napolean, but honestly, I think now we are in the day and age of peak TV drama unless you have quite a tight, compelling story to tell that happily fits within a 2 - 3 hour time frame, then you're far better to think about making a TV series/mini-series versus trying cram in 1000 pages into 120-180 minutes.

When I first heard about a Lord of the Rings TV show, thinking it was just the books done again with breathing room, I was actually excited. Then of course we all realized it was a Amazon prequel series that they were going to butcher.

BUT, I agree completely. A damn good show that fully covers a book or topic sounds way more satisfying now than a movie for me.
 
When I first heard about a Lord of the Rings TV show, thinking it was just the books done again with breathing room, I was actually excited. Then of course we all realized it was a Amazon prequel series that they were going to butcher.

BUT, I agree completely. A damn good show that fully covers a book or topic sounds way more satisfying now than a movie for me.

Agreed that in the present creative climate it's always a gamble, and Amazon has no quality control, but HBO and Apple I dare say could have done it justice.
 
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Haven't heard good things about this movie, middling according to most people


Wow, it's so much worse than I imagined. To an unbelievable level.

13 noms... wow.

I can understand why the genuinely woke people hated the movie because it looks like a mockery.
 
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I honestly don't give a shit anymore, especially after they implemented DEI mandates on who gets nominated. Fuck that shit. Reward a movie for it's quality and not diversity.

It's mad that they are getting away with presenting themselves as the awards for the best movie, actor, etc while very openly admitting that no matter how good your movie could be you can't win the best movie award unless you obey the DEI rules.

So obviously the trans movie gets 13 nominations but I doubt there is anyone out there, even among those praising this film, who doesn't understand exactly why this is getting those nominations.

This is the natural evolution of the "Participation Trophy". First everyone gets a trophy. Eventually though nobody feels special because everyone gets a trophy. We can never go back to the traditional system of only the best getting a trophy because thats patriarchal or whiteness or some shit. So in the end, we need to ensure that the trophy is not handed out based on merit but based on some new criteria that basically comes down to "whoever can claim to be the most oppressed gets the trophy regardless of ability".

Were about to see a man win the best actress though as all the actual actresses cheer and applaud so that's pretty funny to me.
 
It's mad that they are getting away with presenting themselves as the awards for the best movie, actor, etc while very openly admitting that no matter how good your movie could be you can't win the best movie award unless you obey the DEI rules.

So obviously the trans movie gets 13 nominations but I doubt there is anyone out there, even among those praising this film, who doesn't understand exactly why this is getting those nominations.

This is the natural evolution of the "Participation Trophy". First everyone gets a trophy. Eventually though nobody feels special because everyone gets a trophy. We can never go back to the traditional system of only the best getting a trophy because thats patriarchal or whiteness or some shit. So in the end, we need to ensure that the trophy is not handed out based on merit but based on some new criteria that basically comes down to "whoever can claim to be the most oppressed gets the trophy regardless of ability".

Were about to see a man win the best actress though as all the actual actresses cheer and applaud so that's pretty funny to me.
I couldn't even imagine The Lord of the Rings trilogy being nominated let alone winning an Oscar in today's climate. Too many people would be up in arms at how white and patriarchal it is. Sorry if you're offended by a fantasy story written by a White English Oxford professor with a love for languages and Anglo Saxon mythology.
 
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I couldn't even imagine The Lord of the Rings trilogy being nominated let alone winning an Oscar in today's climate. Too many people would be up in arms at how white and patriarchal it is. Sorry if you're offended by a fantasy story written by a White English Oxford professor with a love for languages and Anglo Saxon mythology.

Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings would not be made in it's current form in the current climate.

The Fellowship alone would have to change. My guess would be that Sam and one of the other Hobbits are gender swapped, Legolas or Gimli gender swapped too, at least three of the Fellowship race swapped. Then you'd have a slew of characters written especially for the movies who are all diverse women.

Theres just no way those three movies get made today with basically only 3 female characters of note and every person in it is white.
 
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