Thread: The Tomorrow War starring Chris Pratt
Started off well enough, and the creatures were suitably impressive (legit nightmare fuel beasties), but the ending 3rd was a bit weak, however, I thought for what it was it was entertaining enough. I don't think Christ Pratt is ever getting an Oscar nod, but I think in terms of his slightly charismatic Everyman role he's dependable enough. I just have a hard time whenever I see him not seeing Andy from Parks and Rec. I give it a firm thumbs up. Worth a watch.
 
I saw it yesterday.

Mediocre.

Effects and creature design were pretty good.

Story and dialogue was dumb as fuck.

For a free movie it's worth it but honestly I found it a little boring. It's the same old "alien swarm" movie you've seen a thousand times and they rip off Prometheus and Alien Covenant.

Lots of action but still boring.

I'd still recommend it since it's free though.

The Boys is also free and that was great so if you haven't seen that, do so.
 
I saw it yesterday.

Mediocre.

Effects and creature design were pretty good.

Story and dialogue was dumb as fuck.

For a free movie it's worth it but honestly I found it a little boring. It's the same old "alien swarm" movie you've seen a thousand times and they rip off Prometheus and Alien Covenant.

Lots of action but still boring.

I'd still recommend it since it's free though.

The Boys is also free and that was great so if you haven't seen that, do so.

Complaining about ripping off is weak shit especially when you're advising people to watch a show that's just "what if Superman bad?". I can't even think what you mean with Prometheus/Covenant but it has a direct visual homage of The Thing and a plot point is from ALIEN from 1979... for sure... it also feels similar to Edge of Tomorrow but what does "samd old alien swarm movie" even mean, we barely get any movies about alien invasions any more, it's all superhero bullshit that somehow passes the smell test with people who normally can't handle anything feeling even slightly derivative but no every single time a superhero fights a bad version of himself it's fucking compelling and novel somehow.
 
Complaining about ripping off is weak shit especially when you're advising people to watch a show that's just "what if Superman bad?". I can't even think what you mean with Prometheus/Covenant but it has a direct visual homage of The Thing and a plot point is from ALIEN from 1979... for sure... it also feels similar to Edge of Tomorrow but what does "samd old alien swarm movie" even mean, we barely get any movies about alien invasions any more, it's all superhero bullshit that somehow passes the smell test with people who normally can't handle anything feeling even slightly derivative but no every single time a superhero fights a bad version of himself it's fucking compelling and novel somehow.
Uh.... Man, you really seem rather hostile here for an opinion about a movie.

It's kind of a crappy movie but it's free which is why I said go for it.

As for the Prometheus/Covenant thing....

when it's revealed the real intelligent aliens created the doggy aliens as a weapon of sorts but they fucked up and crashed on Earth.

Also I don't know why you're talking about Superman and superheroes. I agree that cape shit is getting old and saturated. Maybe it's because I mentioned The Boys but that's not your typical superhero stuff.

Again, this movie wasn't horrible. Just mediocre.
 
Uh.... Man,

Also you really seem rather hostile here for an opinion about a movie.

It's kind of a crappy movie but it's free which is why I said go for it.

As for the Prometheus/Covenant thing....

when it's revealed the real intelligent aliens created the doggy aliens as a weapon of sorts but they fucked up and crashed on Earth.

Also I don't know why you're talking about Superman and superheroes. I agree that cape shit is getting old and saturated.

Again, this movie wasn't horrible. Just mediocre.

Yeah that comes from the movie Alien not Prometheus/Alien Covenant, they are continuations of that idea, to explain it more.

I'm saying it's weak shit telling people a movie is overdone while we're literally getting bombarded with one type of movie that always does gangbusters, meanwhile anything good in a genre i care about gets SHIT ON because the people who like the good shit are too discerning, you guys cede the world of cinema to people who think McDonalds is good food when you make a movie like Edge of Tomorrow bomb in the box office because "lol dumb, that's been done, what does it think it is Starship Troopers?" and then find out when you torrent it it was really good and say "oh man, I hope I get another movie like this some day" but you don't because you hate everything that even attempts evoking the things you love because HOW DARE IT be like anything you ever liked but not as good as those things, meanwhile Disney rakes in billions making the same 4 types of movies.
 
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Complaining about ripping off is weak shit especially when you're advising people to watch a show that's just "what if Superman bad?". I can't even think what you mean with Prometheus/Covenant but it has a direct visual homage of The Thing and a plot point is from ALIEN from 1979... for sure... it also feels similar to Edge of Tomorrow but what does "samd old alien swarm movie" even mean, we barely get any movies about alien invasions any more, it's all superhero bullshit that somehow passes the smell test with people who normally can't handle anything feeling even slightly derivative but no every single time a superhero fights a bad version of himself it's fucking compelling and novel somehow.
 
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Uh.... Man, you really seem rather hostile here for an opinion about a movie.
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"I've seen this before" said the wrestling fan

Look okay, I'm over the top but let's be honest, this is the world now...

Dredd - Super awesome, makes no money, no sequels
Edge of Tomorrow - Super awesome, makes no money, has to be re-titled on video, gets a cult following, we're allegedly now getting a sequel but it's now been 7 damn years since it came out
Mad Max Fury Road - Super Awesome, makes decent money but nowhere near what it needed to, cult following helps us get a sequel but again... we're waiting forever
Colour out of Space - Super awesome, no one saw it
Upgrade - Super awesome, none of you saw it
Blade Runner 2049 - Super awesome, flop in theaters

if you WANT everything to be Disney live action remakes/prequels, MCU/DCEU superhero movies or movies with Liam Neeson killing people then KEEP ON NOT SUPPORTING THE SHIT YOU WANT, just let this shit get worse and worse, why the fuck should Hollywood make anything WE WANT if we're not even going to pay to see it or when we do we're like "meh, it borrowed too much from other films I like and i like WHOLLY ORIGINAL IDEAS" where do those even exist? What big budget movies are original these days? Name it and I'll tell you the 5 movies it's taking elements from the same way you could for Tomorrow War.

Sci-fi is dead and sci-fi fans killed it.
 
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Yeah that comes from the movie Alien not Prometheus/Alien Covenant, they are continuations of that idea, to explain it more.

I'm saying it's weak shit telling people a movie is overdone while we're literally getting bombarded with one type of movie that always does gangbusters, meanwhile anything good in a genre i care about gets SHIT ON because the people who like the good shit are too discerning, you guys cede the world of cinema to people who think McDonalds is good food when you make a movie like Edge of Tomorrow bomb in the box office because "lol dumb, that's been done, what does it think it is Starship Troopers?" and then find out when you torrent it it was really good and say "oh man, I hope I get another movie like this some day" but you don't because you hate everything that even attempts evoking the things you love because HOW DARE IT be like anything you ever liked but not as good as those things, meanwhile Disney rakes in billions making the same 4 types of movies.
I haven't seen Edge of Tomorrow.

You have to deal with opinions about things you love. There's things I love that people shit on and I'm just like, "that's cool. You do you."

I won't argue on the cape shit because I agree 💯 with you on that. The world would be a better place without tons of superhero movies and woke shit.

I personally would love to see more sci-fi especially space opera (i.e. movies like Star Wars, Star Trek, Guardians of the Galaxy, Halo, Warhammer 40k, Starfinder, etc). That genre is severely lacking especially when it's only Star Wars and Star Trek mostly.

As for Tomorrow War, again it's not horrible. I just personally didn't find it that interesting. But I can see why people would really like it and that is perfectly fine. I want more movies like that but just better. Hell, Chris Pratt is one of my favorite actors so believe me, I wanted this to be really good.
 
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I haven't seen Edge of Tomorrow.

You have to deal with opinions about things you love. There's things I love that people shit on and I'm just like, "that's cool. You do you."

I won't argue on the cape shit because I agree 💯 with you on that. The world would be a better place without tons of superhero movies and woke shit.

I personally would love to see more sci-fi especially space opera (i.e. movies like Star Wars, Star Trek, Guardians of the Galaxy, Halo, Warhammer 40k, Starfinder, etc). That genre is severely lacking especially when it's only Star Wars and Star Trek mostly.

As for Tomorrow War, again it's not horrible. I just personally didn't find it that interesting. But I can see why people would really like it and that is perfectly fine. I want more movies like that but just better. Hell, Chris Pratt is one of my favorite actors so believe me, I wanted this to be really good.

Not having seen Edge of Tomorrow makes you part of the problem.

I KNOW YOU AGREE, you're a sci-fi fan who HASN'T EVEN SEEN EDGE OF TOMORROW, why shouldn't they only make capeshit films?

HOW CAN YOU COMPLAIN IT'S LACKING IF YOU SKIP THE BIG ENTRIES? How are you not part of the reason they won't invest?

It's whatever people not liking what I like, it's people LIKE YOU who should be ON MY SIDE that gets to me, we're never going to get a space opera film as good as you want if we can't even watch the ones they ARE MAKING. It's just not worth the money to Hollywood. And when they see comments like "this is was just ripping off x and y" they realize sci-fi fans are the type of nerds who can't handle any level of derivative even though superhero films could give two shits, so who are you going to make movies for? Us hard to please nerds or the flock of morons?
 
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Not having seen Edge of Tomorrow makes you part of the problem.

I KNOW YOU AGREE, you're a sci-fi fan who HASN'T EVEN SEEN EDGE OF TOMORROW, why shouldn't they only make capeshit films?

HOW CAN YOU COMPLAIN IT'S LACKING IF YOU SKIP THE BIG ENTRIES? How are you not part of the reason they won't invest?
I want to see it.

But due to lack of certain things, I haven't been able to. When I have the opportunity, I definitely will considering I've heard good things about it. All I know it's sort of like a sci-fi alien invasion movie with some Groundhog Day mixed in which sounds pretty cool.
 
I want to see it.

But due to lack of certain things, I haven't been able to. When I have the opportunity, I definitely will considering I've heard good things about it. All I know it's sort of like a sci-fi alien invasion movie with some Groundhog Day mixed in which sounds pretty cool.

It's such a goddamn awesome movie. I hope you don't mind me going ham on you, I like you, you're a cool guy, I'm just so disillusioned these days, I feel like we aren't willing to do what it takes to WIN, and YES this is a battle. The blockbuster space only has room for so many big films a year because there's only so many effects studios, our lack of support for the things we love craters us, I'm in Facebook Godzilla groups who pirate the new movies and complain we don't get more or complain they have normie shit to appeal to normies, OH REALLY did they put in bad comic relief to appeal to people WHO ACTUALLY PAY TO SEE MOVIES? Sorry, I'm angry, lol.
 
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Btw a great made for Amazon series is The Expanse.

Excellent adult sci fi space opera that manges to be diverse without being woke.

I hate to be "that guy" but fuck it, I'm going to be and say one of the reasons don't care for most modern movies is woke shit. And just the lack of originality.

Last new movie I saw was John Wick 3. It took me forever just to get to that and I loved the first and liked the second movie.
 
I want to see it.

But due to lack of certain things, I haven't been able to. When I have the opportunity, I definitely will considering I've heard good things about it. All I know it's sort of like a sci-fi alien invasion movie with some Groundhog Day mixed in which sounds pretty cool.
What's your opinion on plot holes?
 
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Btw a great made for Amazon series is The Expanse.

Excellent adult sci fi space opera that manges to be diverse without being woke.

I hate to be "that guy" but fuck it, I'm going to be and say one of the reasons don't care for most modern movies is woke shit. And just the lack of originality.

Last new movie I saw was John Wick 3. It took me forever just to get to that and I loved the first and liked the second movie.

What a lame show, especially that last season where they decide to become Game of Thrones in space "oh wow the aliens sent a weird amorphous blob to kill us all, this isn't like Alien/Prometheus at all!" said the fan who isn't discerning what-so-ever OH BUT THEY ARE RENEGADES WHO DON'T TAKE SIDES BECAUSE ALL SIDES NEED TO UNIFY AND ONLY THEY CAN GET IT DOWN IT'S SO ORIGINAL OMG
I love Expanse, I'm fucking with you
 
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I'll have to check and see if Edge of Tomorrow is on Amazon Prime for free. If it is, I might watch it tonight.

I had to reinstate my Prime account because we use it for groceries so I currently have it. So if it's on there I'll check it out.
 
You're going to make me so mad.
I literally can't afford it lol but didn't want to say that outright out of fear that somebody is going to jump on my ass for "whining about my financial problems again" 😂

But yeah when I'm able to I'll see it.
 
I literally can't afford it lol but didn't want to say that outright out of fear that somebody is going to jump on my ass for "whining about my financial problems again" 😂

But yeah when I'm able to I'll see it.

Why don't you make a thread about your financial issues so I can understand, I'd read it. If someone doesn't want you to it's their problem.

The only subscription service with Edge of Tomorrow currently is DirecTV, so if you don't have that it costs money. Do you have a local library? One with DVDs/Blus? Can you afford a 3.99 rental fee? If I knew you better I'd account share one of my services for you, I own Edge of Tomorrow digitally on more than one, you should play games with me sometime or something, if I got to know you and trusted you I'd be fine with it even though I've had bad experiences with people in the past when I've done it.
 
Why don't you make a thread about your financial issues so I can understand, I'd read it. If someone doesn't want you to it's their problem.
Haha no freaking way.

Somebody here jumped on my case when I brought it up and I'm not going to mention it again here with the exception of that last reply just so you know where I'm getting and I'm hesitant to do that.

No fucking way would I make a thread about it and I'm trying to keep all my personal issues out of this forum as much as possible.

You didn't do anything wrong and I'm not upset with you. Just letting you know what's up.
 
Haha no freaking way.

Somebody here jumped on my case when I brought it up and I'm not going to mention it again here with the exception of that last reply just so you know where I'm getting and I'm hesitant to do that.

No fucking way would I make a thread about it and I'm trying to keep all my personal issues out of this forum as much as possible.

You didn't do anything wrong and I'm not upset with you. Just letting you know what's up.

Okay, Tomorrow War was fun stuff tho, how dare you.
 
The only subscription service with Edge of Tomorrow currently is DirecTV, so if you don't have that it costs money. Do you have a local library? One with DVDs/Blus? Can you afford a 3.99 rental fee? If I knew you better I'd account share one of my services for you, I own Edge of Tomorrow digitally on more than one, you should play games with me sometime or something, if I got to know you and trusted you I'd be fine with it even though I've had bad experiences with people in the past when I've done it.
Actually we do have DirecTV here. My aunt got it for my dad and she's flipping the bill so he can watch Fox News and Newsmax. He loves watching the Trump rallies. He's very sick and I care for him but he loves Trump more than anything.

AND that's enough of my personal life there....

But i do remember Edge of Tomorrow being on one of the channels but with commercials and probably edited swearing or whatever. It was half way through the movie when I got a glimpse of it and I don't want to watch a movie while missing half of it.
 
I highly recommend Starfinder TTRPG.

It's a great space opera sci-fi setting that has a very Guardians of the Galaxy feel to it.

It's flexible and you can do "alien swarm" campaigns and funny enough they have an alien race called "The Swarm" that's basically just that.
 
I highly recommend Starfinder TTRPG.

It's a great space opera sci-fi setting that has a very Guardians of the Galaxy feel to it.

It's flexible and you can do "alien swarm" campaigns and funny enough they have an alien race called "The Swarm" that's basically just that.

What.
 
I enjoyed Skyline - great fx, schlock, action:




The best part is it's sequel manages to better it:




There is a third entry - haven't watched it and looking at the trailer it might have the woke taint applied?
 
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I watched it last evening (The Tomorrow War). Very average. Totally popcorn switch your brain off and enjoy the pretty lights kind of movie.

Everything from plot, to dialogue and acting was below average. I think this movie is aimed at the 13 year old crowd, really. I got the sense that they tried their best to emulate some of the things that made movies like Independence Day or even The Rock fun to watch, but the quality is nowhere near there.
 
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Was entertaining enough dumb fun but decidedly average overall. Creature designs were "ok", firing spikes was a nice touch although they never really crossed the barrier into iconic.

Story was pretty dumb overall but eh, I've seen worse. I felt like they had a bunch of ideas but never fully developed any of them.

His Dad left him when he was a kid so they have a strained relationship but they only spend 5 minutes on that plot-point/character until the ending when he comes to the Dad for help and has a different perspective on things after finding out he for no apparent or explained reason leaves his family in the original timeline. The Dad character or this relationship is never really explored and is wrapped up with a neat bow at the end: "See! It all ties in with his relation AS a father and his relationship to his OWN father! Genius! Now they are besties!"

His quad mates like the black guy who has gone back multiple times to the future were never really developed other than to have some kind of background characters and a crew to bring to the final fight, he could have been a cool character out for revenge or something but they kind of dropped the ball.

They tried to have their cake and eat it with the aliens attacking in the future but also being trapped in the ice for a thousand years, was a reasonable twist but felt they didn't really spend any time on it again, just pew pew aliens!

It was also stupid when the present day military guys were all: "We can't spend any resources on your silly idea that could save humanity and the future, now allow us to continue sending millions of untrained civilians into the future to fight an alien race we know nothing about to save our future planet's population."

Also why was the tour of duty in the future only 7 days? Surely if humanity is on the brink of extinction then they would need everyone they could get and with the more experience the better? Also why did they send everyone with no training or intel on the enemy? What a dumb way to waste resources and people. Dumbfuck military ideas lol

They also tried to have their cake and eat it too with the whole scientist/ex-army angle, eh not the worst idea as it did explain how he could lead/survive things in battle but it felt a little unrealistic. They also don't do much with his scientist angle at all, I thought that would end up saving the day in the end but no it was his daughter who developed the toxin or whatever. I guess you could say it was the love of/interest in science he embedded in her as a child that saved the day? But eh felt like a wasted opportunity for me.

Acting was serviceable all round, nothing amazing but nothing terrible. All in all relatively solid but nobody is winning awards for this. They decided to go with the everyman 40+ people for some ham fisted "oh it would create a paradox and you are already dead in the future or something". If there are only 500,000 people left alive in the future anyway wouldn't almost everyone already be dead then? Was just a dumb idea but eh I've seen worse.

It seems like I'm being overly harsh here but I did enjoy the film and it had some interesting ideas and some good moments. I just felt like it kind of had too many ideas or rewrites that could have been a little better implemented. Too many ingredients that kind of made a bland but edible meal.

Worth a watch but don't expect greatness. Edge of Tomorrow this is not.
 
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For me the best recent military vs monster movie is Spectral.

That movie blows.
I watched it last evening (The Tomorrow War). Very average. Totally popcorn switch your brain off and enjoy the pretty lights kind of movie.

Everything from plot, to dialogue and acting was below average. I think this movie is aimed at the 13 year old crowd, really. I got the sense that they tried their best to emulate some of the things that made movies like Independence Day or even The Rock fun to watch, but the quality is nowhere near there.

Independence Day blows and is much dumber than this movie.
Was entertaining enough dumb fun but decidedly average overall. Creature designs were "ok", firing spikes was a nice touch although they never really crossed the barrier into iconic.

Story was pretty dumb overall but eh, I've seen worse. I felt like they had a bunch of ideas but never fully developed any of them.

His Dad left him when he was a kid so they have a strained relationship but they only spend 5 minutes on that plot-point/character until the ending when he comes to the Dad for help and has a different perspective on things after finding out he for no apparent or explained reason leaves his family in the original timeline. The Dad character or this relationship is never really explored and is wrapped up with a neat bow at the end: "See! It all ties in with his relation AS a father and his relationship to his OWN father! Genius! Now they are besties!"

His quad mates like the black guy who has gone back multiple times to the future were never really developed other than to have some kind of background characters and a crew to bring to the final fight, he could have been a cool character out for revenge or something but they kind of dropped the ball.

They tried to have their cake and eat it with the aliens attacking in the future but also being trapped in the ice for a thousand years, was a reasonable twist but felt they didn't really spend any time on it again, just pew pew aliens!

It was also stupid when the present day military guys were all: "We can't spend any resources on your silly idea that could save humanity and the future, now allow us to continue sending millions of untrained civilians into the future to fight an alien race we know nothing about to save our future planet's population."

Also why was the tour of duty in the future only 7 days? Surely if humanity is on the brink of extinction then they would need everyone they could get and with the more experience the better? Also why did they send everyone with no training or intel on the enemy? What a dumb way to waste resources and people. Dumbfuck military ideas lol

They also tried to have their cake and eat it too with the whole scientist/ex-army angle, eh not the worst idea as it did explain how he could lead/survive things in battle but it felt a little unrealistic. They also don't do much with his scientist angle at all, I thought that would end up saving the day in the end but no it was his daughter who developed the toxin or whatever. I guess you could say it was the love of/interest in science he embedded in her as a child that saved the day? But eh felt like a wasted opportunity for me.

Acting was serviceable all round, nothing amazing but nothing terrible. All in all relatively solid but nobody is winning awards for this. They decided to go with the everyman 40+ people for some ham fisted "oh it would create a paradox and you are already dead in the future or something". If there are only 500,000 people left alive in the future anyway wouldn't almost everyone already be dead then? Was just a dumb idea but eh I've seen worse.

It seems like I'm being overly harsh here but I did enjoy the film and it had some interesting ideas and some good moments. I just felt like it kind of had too many ideas or rewrites that could have been a little better implemented. Too many ingredients that kind of made a bland but edible meal.

Worth a watch but don't expect greatness. Edge of Tomorrow this is not.

His leaving the family in the original timeline takes years, even years between the separation and divorce, and you can actually see hints of it, when he doesn't get that job he wanted there's the beginning of a malaise setting in for him. I didn't think the idea was his father turned a corner in that final third so much as HE did because he was able to let his father back into his and his daughter's life because he realized the importance of giving someone a second chance especially when he made the same mistakes.

I mean, how developed are the marines in Aliens? I never get these complaints, they're either likable or not but developed is rarely the right word in stuff like this.

What's wrong with the trapped in ice idea, tho? Don;'t get the complaint.

They actually weren't sending people into the future any more, the time thing was destroyed and anarchy was engulfing the world over our impending doom.

It had to do with the white spike hibernation cycle, also considering barely anyone returns from even 7 days of deployment I'm not sure they could expect more, still there's a huge pool of people to pull from.

They do teach them where to aim to kill the enemies but the idea that even with a draft if you knew what it was like you'd run and not show up was interesting, like some people would rather face the imprisonment than fight something like that, tho the real reason was to make the reveal to the audience better.

But he taught his daughter and he does help her. I don't see why it's a wasted opportunity, he gets to see his fatherhood helped her become someone important, pretty neat.

I mean does any sci-fi win awards for acting these days? Even if the acting is amazing?

Good point about the only 500,000 people alive thing, however you wouldn't have the best records of who's alive and dead in that level of chaos and with plenty of people in the past to send sending people you KNOW are dead is probably smarter.

No, it's not as good as Edge of Tomorrow but it has good effects, well choreographed action and the action has a real feel of stakes and suspense to it that movies rarely have these days. Most action scenes these days are two superheroes punching, I'll take my time travel alien invasion crap thank you very much lol. Could it have been done better? Absolutely, I think some of the comic relief is cringe, I think 50% of all people being black isn't reality lol (oh and they're all either geniuses or the best at something) but some of the rough edges of the film I think are because it was originally a Universal planned theatrical release and the pandemic caused them to sell it to Amazon who probably did the bare minimum to get it ready to play for them, it probably felt like a huge get for their service to get an actual summer blockbuster and people would accept the flaws because they didn't need to hit the theaters for it. For me I totally accept them because I crave certain elements it delivers and other movies don't want to give me it.