Switch 2 announced! (NatetheHate: Nintendo Switch 2 will be announced on Thursday, January 16)

Thread: Switch 2 announced! (NatetheHate: Nintendo Switch 2 will be announced on Thursday, January 16)
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I think it looks awesome. It'll be better for me as a handheld with that big ass screen and bigger joycons. A more powerful and bigger Switch is all I really wanted.

I didn't need some reinvention of the wheel again. I never even bought a Wii. I didn't need the Switch 2 to be some arm strap console that you controlled by doing the Floss dance or some shit.
 
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regawdless said:
But as a handheld and way smaller.

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What's the story with tweets like this.
The guy hates Nintendo for some reason?
Or thinks that PC gaming is so amazing that anything else is seen as inferior?

If you said the Switch 2 is a handheld PS4 for $399 then that's kind of decent.

Intentionally leaving out the handheld element makes it sound like some personal beef with Nintendo, which is pretty stupid.

As someone already said in this thread, there are a lot of people in gaming communities that have a very strange relationship with Nintendo.

At a minimum isn't having another competent handheld on the market a good thing?
 
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Saruhashi said:
What's the story with tweets like this.
The guy hates Nintendo for some reason?
Or thinks that PC gaming is so amazing that anything else is seen as inferior?

If you said the Switch 2 is a handheld PS4 for $399 then that's kind of decent.

Intentionally leaving out the handheld element makes it sound like some personal beef with Nintendo, which is pretty stupid.

As someone already said in this thread, there are a lot of people in gaming communities that have a very strange relationship with Nintendo.

At a minimum isn't having another competent handheld on the market a good thing?
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It literally mentions handheld mode. Nintendo don't give a shit about you. Stop being a weirdo.
 
Sean Mirrsen said:
Yeah, like. A handheld PS4 with a screen and Nintendo games. I'm not sure it's quite the negative he implies it is.

Either way, the Switch was a portable PS3 in the age of the PS4 Pro. And look where it got it.
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For the first party games it almost wouldn't matter if they still ran at PS3 level because people are looking for gameplay in those titles.

Pikmin 5 can look identical to Pikmin 4 but as long as there are interesting iterations on the gameplay your average Pikmin fan is going to be happy.

The selling points of the Switch seemed like you will get polished first party content and that will be their big sellers, an extensive range of new indie games that run well and have the bonus of being playable on handheld mode, a range of older PS3 and some PS4 games that you may have missed or may want to play in handheld.

Maybe there's an attitude with the Switch that people don't want to look at what Nintendo have done right but rather want to indulge the belief that the consumers are just stupid instead.
 
Saruhashi said:
What's the story with tweets like this.
The guy hates Nintendo for some reason?
Or thinks that PC gaming is so amazing that anything else is seen as inferior?

If you said the Switch 2 is a handheld PS4 for $399 then that's kind of decent.

Intentionally leaving out the handheld element makes it sound like some personal beef with Nintendo, which is pretty stupid.

As someone already said in this thread, there are a lot of people in gaming communities that have a very strange relationship with Nintendo.

At a minimum isn't having another competent handheld on the market a good thing?
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Don't know about his motivation. I guess he's so negative because the PS4 was already based on lower mid end laptop hardware, and he expected more advancements in 12 years.

Hardware in general got weird though, we've barely seen any significant cost to performance improvements in like four years in the GPU space. Hardware became more expensive during and after COVID and remained expensive.


Don't think there's much more they could've done for that price goal.
 
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Stilton Disco said:
So identical to how people keep describing the Steam Deck.

The Steam Deck that can run games at settings equivalent to between the PS4Pro and the XSS at 800p.
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Shit, I wonder how Nintendo is going to deal with storage space and battery life.

Steam Deck prices are OK if you want the LCD screen with 256GB of space and 2 hours of battery.

The OLED with 1TB and better battery life is a very different price.

If Switch 2 is on par with Steam Deck regarding power then I dread to think what we'd be getting for our $399.

LCD screen for sure.
100GB for installed games on the console.
Maybe 3 to 4 hours of battery, if that.

A lot of unanswered questions about this thing.

Maybe it'll just be two Switches duct taped together and that's why they've called it "Switch 2".
 
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Saruhashi said:
Shit, I wonder how Nintendo is going to deal with storage space and battery life.

Steam Deck prices are OK if you want the LCD screen with 256GB of space and 2 hours of battery.

The OLED with 1TB and better battery life is a very different price.

If Switch 2 is on par with Steam Deck regarding power then I dread to think what we'd be getting for our $399.

LCD screen for sure.
100GB for installed games on the console.
Maybe 3 to 4 hours of battery, if that.

A lot of unanswered questions about this thing.

Maybe it'll just be two Switches duct taped together and that's why they've called it "Switch 2".
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Battery life will be an interesting one. Clock speeds are very low, but the space reserved for the battery that I've seen in leaks doesn't seem like a big step up from the Switch 1.
 
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Saruhashi said:
Shit, I wonder how Nintendo is going to deal with storage space and battery life.

Steam Deck prices are OK if you want the LCD screen with 256GB of space and 2 hours of battery.

The OLED with 1TB and better battery life is a very different price.

If Switch 2 is on par with Steam Deck regarding power then I dread to think what we'd be getting for our $399.

LCD screen for sure.
100GB for installed games on the console.
Maybe 3 to 4 hours of battery, if that.

A lot of unanswered questions about this thing.

Maybe it'll just be two Switches duct taped together and that's why they've called it "Switch 2".
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Im guessing:

16GB RAM

64GB internal storage

SD Card slot for additional storage

LCD screen

3-4 hours battery

$300-$350

Nintendo have apparently been doing everything they can to keep costs down, and I expect Switch 1 price drops and potentially SKU's getting discontinued to clear through old inventory.
 
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Hinedorf said:
For me I just expect to see at least one major new title at launch. This feels a lot like the Wii U to me. You knew what the Wii was, you didn't know what the Wii U was. This is basically just the same console so at minimum you have to give me a legit new game or I don't understand the point of the purchase unless this is for folks who didn't previously have a Switch.

I've got a hundred hours in each of the Zelda games, 4k 60 FPS has absolutely no interest to me in a world where new IP is present.

I would compare this to Apple Iphone nuts who see the new model and need to get it the day it's out even though it's just a fucking phone at the end of the day. Minor changes/maximum price.
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April 2nd.
This was a hardware reveal. Software will be on the 2nd.
The point of this reveal was to show the hardware and that the system is real. I would even say it might have been in response to all the leaks and maybe the reveal was going to be tacked onto a feburary or march direct.
They will announce software in April. We will see then what they have up their sleeve if anything.
 
Stouffers said:
Why doesn't DK have a penis?
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HeresJohnny said:
Whether people love it or hate it, the Switch 2 has completely sucked the oxygen out of anything else gaming related. It's going to be fucking huge. Anyone telling themselves otherwise is sucking on a huge copium balloon.
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Outside of the new GPU generation on PC, not much going on either way from now till the Switch 2 release. And nothing will happen on the Switch side for now, we have to wait till the next Nintendo Direct in April.

Nintendo isn't really competing with the others. PS5 Pro will be chugging along, completely different target group. Switch 2 will attract their existing target group. I'm curious how the transition will work out for Nintendo. I bet many games will be cross gen, they can't ignore the huge Switch install base.
 
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regawdless said:
Outside of the new GPU generation on PC, not much going on either way from now till the Switch 2 release. And nothing will happen on the Switch side for now, we have to wait till the next Nintendo Direct in April.

Nintendo isn't really competing with the others. PS5 Pro will be chugging along, completely different target group. Switch 2 will attract their existing target group. I'm curious how the transition will work out for Nintendo. I bet many games will be cross gen, they can't ignore the huge Switch install base.
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Yeah I totally expect a long transition period of cross gently titles.
 
regawdless said:
Outside of the new GPU generation on PC, not much going on either way from now till the Switch 2 release. And nothing will happen on the Switch side for now, we have to wait till the next Nintendo Direct in April.

Nintendo isn't really competing with the others. PS5 Pro will be chugging along, completely different target group. Switch 2 will attract their existing target group. I'm curious how the transition will work out for Nintendo. I bet many games will be cross gen, they can't ignore the huge Switch install base.
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Nah, I very much doubt there will be a transition period outside of 1 or 2 games - most likely Prime 4 only, but I'm even sceptical about that. They announced it for the old machine, so they will probably cross-gen it, but the game is only going to sell 2-3 million most likely based on the historical performance of the series, so locking it behind the 2 might actually make it more attractive.

I'm certain they will put a hard stop on first-party OG Switch releases like they're going out of fashion once the thing actually drops. Their core titles are evergreen and almost never drop in price, so even if the install base is low initially, those games will continue to pick up sales as the console sells. So launching with MK9, for example. they have no need to port it to Switch 1 because it's going to sell 50m+ copies over the next 6-7 years. Same for Mario, Zelda, Smash Bros., Animal Crossing, Pokemon etc. These games all have a phenomenal attach rate, and I would argue that making them cross-gen would actually hurt their long-term appeal.

Sony's "we believe in generations" was horseshit. Nintendo will show them how it should've been done over the next 2-3 years.
 
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regawdless said:
Outside of the new GPU generation on PC, not much going on either way from now till the Switch 2 release. And nothing will happen on the Switch side for now, we have to wait till the next Nintendo Direct in April.

Nintendo isn't really competing with the others. PS5 Pro will be chugging along, completely different target group. Switch 2 will attract their existing target group. I'm curious how the transition will work out for Nintendo. I bet many games will be cross gen, they can't ignore the huge Switch install base.
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I think given cross compatibility, this will be a smoother transition that previous generations for Nintendo. The backwards compatibility will also make it so buying a Switch 1 isn't a bad investment, since your library can carry over, and buying a Switch 2 is a great investment since you can play most o your existing Switch games on it. I expect OG Switch hardware will come down in price, leading to millions of more people buying that system and people trading their old systems in to get Switch 2.
 
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I wonder why they made Donkey Kong look the way he does in Mario Kart 9? There's no way he'll stay that design, right? Reminds me of the original design for Sonic The Hedgehog when the first movie was being created
 
I've read some really shitty takes on the Switch 2 reveal.

Why do these same people not have the same take with Sony's Playstation consoles??
 
Stilton Disco said:
Actually those mouse controls are going to make the Switch 2 the best option for playing games like COD, Fortnite and Marvel Rivals. Might genuinely take a bit of both the casual and the hardcore market from PS5.
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The other consoles let you use an actual mouse tho 😂😂

Tho not Rivals, which annoys me.
 
Optimus said:
I've read some really shitty takes on the Switch 2 reveal.

Why do these same people not have the same take with Sony's Playstation consoles??
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Because they like movies more than games.

Seriously, anyone who claims to be satisfied with the state of the PS5 has lost their fucking mind, IMO. Maybe, maybe, MAYBE if it's their first console then I guess.... but if they've owned any Playstation prior to 5, yep -- fucked in the head, because you not only know better then -- you saw better. This is not better. This is shit.
 
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Interestingly, no Anti Aliasing to be found in the new Mario Kart. Therefore also no DLSS shown. Given that such feature could increase performance and improve their image quality, it's weird how they didn't show it.
 
regawdless said:
Interestingly, no Anti Aliasing to be found in the new Mario Kart. Therefore also no DLSS shown. Given that such feature could increase performance and improve their image quality, it's weird how they didn't show it.
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It's likely early builds of Mario Kart. The game was just there to show off how similar Switch 2 was in playing games. We just need to wait until the game is shown in the full blowout MK.
 
HeresJohnny said:
Because they like movies more than games.

Seriously, anyone who claims to be satisfied with the state of the PS5 has lost their fucking mind, IMO. Maybe, maybe, MAYBE if it's their first console then I guess.... but if they've owned any Playstation prior to 5, yep -- fucked in the head, because you not only know better then -- you saw better. This is not better. This is shit.
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Just you leave my beloved PlayStation 5 alone!

At least PS5 goes on sale sometimes!
 
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Am I alone in thinking that Wii U had a better control scheme than Switch?

I always preferred the asymmetrical sticks of the Xbox controller as it just feels better personally, but I find it really awkward to hold the switch with this setup. I have a problem reaching for the stick with my right thumb.

I found my Wii U today, and removed dust from the Wii U screen pad or whatever you wanna call it.
It just felt so easy to hold because of the placement of the thumb sticks. I had no struggle with being able to use both thumb sticks while holding the controller comfortably.

I mean I know why they did it, because you can use each joycon as a controller if you want to play two players, but I just really find my switch awkward to hold and play with as a handheld.
 
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The_Mike said:
Am I alone in thinking that Wii U had a better control scheme than Switch?

I always preferred the asymmetrical sticks of the Xbox controller as it just feels better personally, but I find it really awkward to hold the switch with this setup. I have a problem reaching for the stick with my right thumb.

I found my Wii U today, and removed dust from the Wii U screen pad or whatever you wanna call it.
It just felt so easy to hold because of the placement of the thumb sticks. I had no struggle with being able to use both thumb sticks while holding the controller comfortably.

I mean I know why they did it, because you can use each joycon as a controller if you want to play two players, but I just really find my switch awkward to hold and play with as a handheld.
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Yeah one of the first things I did when I got my Switch was try out one of those 3rd party joycon replacements that were bulkier. It helped it slightly to become more ergonomic, but the Switch is not a comfortable handheld to use for many types of games.

My hands would hurt like hell after a few hours of Monster Hunter Rise. I'm hoping they've solved some of the ergonomic issues with Switch 2. That bigger screen will have me wanting to do more handheld play. Maybe having it be bigger helps it too.
 
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