[Stifler's Mom]

So they put something unto the cleavage in two costumes?
I remember in the 80ies we had tv commercials with full on tits shown in there here in Germany.

We live in weird times.

 

[regawdless]

So they put something unto the cleavage in two costumes?
I remember in the 80ies we had tv commercials with full on tits shown in there here in Germany.

We live in weird times.

The changes don't even fit the design, they actually look out of place, like some quick and dirty patch up job.

And yeah, it's super dumb and weird, we used to have all them naked tiddies.

Edit: the petition is at 55k, that's actually more than I though. Don't think Sony will allow any change tbh and don't think it'll have an impact in the end.

 

[Perc Angle]

Tits scary, violence uwu

 

[DonDonDonPata]

The changes don't even fit the design, they actually look out of place, like some quick and dirty patch up job.

And yeah, it's super dumb and weird, we used to have all them naked tiddies.

Edit: the petition is at 55k, that's actually more than I though. Don't think Sony will allow any change tbh and don't think it'll have an impact in the end.

It was done this way on purpose as a humiliation ritual. There wasn't any effort to be sneaky. After all, if these things had been censored before the demo, who would know? But instead, they censor in broad daylight so that people are forced to either go along with it or to miss out on the game they've been hyping for months/years. I gotta wonder why people want to give money to a company that intentionally prods their customers' FOMO like this.

The purpose is to make folks compromise their morals. Cue the Call of Duty boycott image to hammer the point home. "You'll play anyway", is how these companies think because they have no respect for their customers.

 

[regawdless]

This game is legit great

I'm trying to ignore as much as I can till the PC release but man, the things I'm seeing... Can't wait, that shit is really good.

 

[Perc Angle]

I'm trying to ignore as much as I can till the PC release but man, the things I'm seeing... Can't wait, that shit is really good.

Trust it really is polished and fun, great combat

 

[JORMBO]

The strange part about the changes is there are plenty of skimpy outfits in the game. They altered some, but left others. It is not consistent at all.

 

[Yawnson]

The strange part about the changes is there are plenty of skimpy outfits in the game. They altered some, but left others. It is not consistent at all.

More Sony messaging than actual change, question is, whos the message for.

 

[Neil Young]

They could have a toggle for the more risque costumes. That's how you KNOW this is about sending a message, there's no compromise.

I REALLY feel this type of censorship is coming for all media. Sure, they edit movies for television, but I could see them going after official digital editions. I think one day soon, we'll be watching Pulp Fiction and you'll hear an A.I. voice of Tarantino saying "Is there a sign that says, dead...mobster...storage?". Basically, the edited for TV edition will be the official edition. And you'll have the same type of asshole reactions like you do with this game. "Only racists would care that those words were removed. It's no big deal, the movie is still great, even with the edits. Why are you mad?".

It's infuriating that the worst of the worst of human beings are the ones who have the power right now to tell straight males that it's WRONG to enjoy looking at an attractive female. Ancient fucking statues, songs, poems, wars being fought for beautiful women. These cretins want us to be bury 1000s of years of basic human interactions and biology because they are ugly, worthless slobs. And the saddest part, THEY'RE WINNING!!

So yeah, not buying the titty game might not seem like much, but holy shit....these roaches are MASTERS at infiltration. A little word here, a changed flag there, changing a quest because your female character could get pregnant and you can't have that, gay legless characters, stretch marks. I COULD keep going. At some point you have to say "FUCK YOU!". This small change for this game was my FUCK YOU.

I'm 100 percent done spending another dime on consoles. I have cancelled my renewals for game pass and PS plus. I'm no longer supporting this bullshit.

 

[JORMBO]

It was done this way on purpose as a humiliation ritual. There wasn't any effort to be sneaky. After all, if these things had been censored before the demo, who would know? But instead, they censor in broad daylight so that people are forced to either go along with it or to miss out on the game they've been hyping for months/years. I gotta wonder why people want to give money to a company that intentionally prods their customers' FOMO like this.

The purpose is to make folks compromise their morals. Cue the Call of Duty boycott image to hammer the point home. "You'll play anyway", is how these companies think because they have no respect for their customers.

Agree with this post. I did buy the game because I really wanted to play it. It is a really fun game. Up there with FF7 Rebirth this year for me. The bit of censorship is really annoying and I do not agree with it, but I am not going to let it stop me from playing the game and I don't want to punish the developers for Sony being assholes.

I've had PS as my main platform since the PS1 came out. I've been subscibed to PS+ since it first took form. I have not liked the more Western direction Sony has been taking for awhile. I built a gaming PC, canceled my PS+, will probably skip the PS5Pro and buy games on PC if offered on both platforms. I do think Sony's actions hurt them bit by bit over the long run. I pick and choose my battles and they have been slowly losing me as a customer. I am not spending much money on PS anymore outside of the occasional Eastern game that doesn't release on PC day one.

 

[DonDonDonPata]

question is, whos the message for.

The message is for the Day One customers who supported this game because of what they perceived as an anti-censorship developer. Why the publisher would feel the need to send a message directly to the game's most loyal customers is noteworthy.

Agree with this post. I did buy the game because I really wanted to play it. It is a really fun game. Up there with FF7 Rebirth this year for me. The bit of censorship is really annoying and I do not agree with it, but I am not going to let it stop me from playing the game and I don't want to punish the developers for Sony being assholes.

I've had PS as my main platform since the PS1 came out. I've been subscibed to PS+ since it first took form. I have not liked the more Western direction Sony has been taking for awhile. I built a gaming PC, canceled my PS+, will probably skip the PS5Pro and buy games on PC if offered on both platforms. I do think Sony's actions hurt them bit by bit over the long run. I pick and choose my battles and they have been slowly losing me as a customer. I am not spending much money on PS anymore outside of the occasional Eastern game that doesn't release on PC day one.

Buy what you like, but unfortunately it only enables these companies to continue doing it. Once you part with your money, you hand over your leverage.

I think folks like Grummz mean well, but they are misguided. You aren't going to out-petition the SJWs because companies aren't actually "bending the knee" to the SJWs. They already agree with the SJWs.

These publishers use bot armies and bought-and-paid-for influencers to promote whatever message they want. So then they can shrug and say "awww man, the Twitter brigade yelled a lot and we had to cave in", and the anti-woke folks will shake their fists and yell "curse you, SJWs! You are to blame! You convinced Sony to censor this". Then people start to get the impression that if only we could petition as hard as the SJWs, if only we could raise up our voices, the innocent publisher would have to give us what we want, right? No, wrong! The publishers aren't listening to anyone. They've already made up their mind. The "battle" on Twitter is just noise and smoke, it's irrelevant to the decision-making process at these publishers.

Therefore, the only effective message you can send is to not buy the product.

I mentioned in the Sweet Baby thread that this all stinks of bait. We see every disingenuous argument on display.

Why on earth would a publisher behave this way? Why? If you go in with the presupposition that these companies are ideologically-captured and they despise their customers, it makes sense. If you are under the impression that these publishers are "just trying to make money", the Sweet Baby stuff just doesn't add up.

 

[The_Mike]

Virgin game of the year.

 

[p_banned]

I read it was the game's director that willfully wanted the designs to change. Where you found the info that it's Sony that requested it? Cause what I read was in Korean.

 

[JORMBO]

I read it was the game's director that willfully wanted the designs to change. Where you found the info that it's Sony that requested it? Cause what I read was in Korean.

The outfits shipped on the disc and were patched last minutes before the game came out. I think the safe assumption is Sony forced the change due to Sony's history on this type of thing. The director isn't going to blame Sony since they helped fund a lot of the game.

 

[O-N-E]

I read it was the game's director that willfully wanted the designs to change. Where you found the info that it's Sony that requested it? Cause what I read was in Korean.

You read?

Spoiler

Why would the director want his vision to be split between the West and East exactly? That's retarded.

 

[regawdless]

I read it was the game's director that willfully wanted the designs to change. Where you found the info that it's Sony that requested it? Cause what I read was in Korean.

He obviously sad that because he had to say it. Can't say "yeah they forced me". But if you read between the lines, it becomes rather clear. He also said something like the people from SIE making funny faces when they visited and saw the game - can't exactly remember it but it's clear there was a lot of dislike inside of SIE towards the game.

 

[WesternBlood]

It's A Gundam's take on Censorship in Stellar Blade:

 

[Hinedorf]

The irony some of you 'men' will rail on pornography and simultaneously get butthurt a video game doesn't let you run around with visible vagina while fighting aliens.

The only thing that should matter is if the game is fun. If you need to see video game vagina just go watch porn.

 

[regawdless]

The irony some of you 'men' will rail on pornography and simultaneously get butthurt a video game doesn't let you run around with visible vagina while fighting aliens.

The only thing that should matter is if the game is fun. If you need to see video game vagina just go watch porn.

Or maybe it's not about that and you're completely missing the point and come up with the dumbest braindead NPC post imaginable.

 

[regawdless]

 

[Neil Young]

If you need to see video game vagina just go watch porn.

Who is talking about needing to see a video game vagina? And why is the typical response to go watch porn? Personally, I'd rather play a game with a scantily clad hot Asian lady than watch some down and out tweaker degrade themselves and ruin their lives.

That's one of the things I can't really wrap my head around with this censorship. Why would people like yourself want to steer others away from wanting to play a game with a half naked FAKE lady into watching something SO MUCH WORSE? What battle are you fighting? Who is it for?

Do they care about the harm this videogame character does to women? If so, why aren't they boycotting Brazzers or Only Fans? There are 100s of porn games on Steam. Why not go after those? We know the answer. These cocksucking parasitic pukebags want to infiltrate and destroy a hobby that predominantly straight males enjoy.

Go watch porn? Fuck that! I wanted to play a game that was PROMISED to be uncensored by the developers before release. But Sony couldn't help themselves and bent the knee to the fuck heads. It has nothing to do with us wanting to get off on a video game vagina. It has to do with these fucktards taking over and destroying our hobby.

 

[Eneru]

Who is talking about needing to see a video game vagina? And why is the typical response to go watch porn? Personally, I'd rather play a game with a scantily clad hot Asian lady than watch some down and out tweaker degrade themselves and ruin their lives.

That's one of the things I can't really wrap my head around with this censorship. Why would people like yourself want to steer others away from wanting to play a game with a half naked FAKE lady into watching something SO MUCH WORSE? What battle are you fighting? Who is it for?

Do they care about the harm this videogame character does to women? If so, why aren't they boycotting Brazzers or Only Fans? There are 100s of porn games on Steam. Why not go after those? We know the answer. These cocksucking parasitic pukebags want to infiltrate and destroy a hobby that predominantly straight males enjoy.

Go watch porn? Fuck that! I wanted to play a game that was PROMISED to be uncensored by the developers before release. But Sony couldn't help themselves and bent the knee to the fuck heads. It has nothing to do with us wanting to get off on a video game vagina. It has to do with these fucktards taking over and destroying our hobby.

Plus why the fuck does anybody want to play as an ugly as character instead of a hot one?

 

[kiNeMs]

Off topic, this game is fucken awesome.

 

[bork]

The irony some of you 'men' will rail on pornography and simultaneously get butthurt a video game doesn't let you run around with visible vagina while fighting aliens.

The only thing that should matter is if the game is fun. If you need to see video game vagina just go watch porn.

You have the absolute worst takes

 

[Tapped]

Off topic, this game is fucken awesome.

Once you unlock a few skills and start really getting a hang of the combat, when to perfect dodge, when to perfect parry, when to use those special back/forward dodges then timing the follow-ups to all of these with their special attacks and using combos with power up finishers etc it's so much fun. The rhythm of combat is just so good, they did an amazing job with it and the difficulty and variety of move sets for even regular enemies really keeps you engaged in the combat.

 

[regawdless]

Once you unlock a few skills and start really getting a hang of the combat, when to perfect dodge, when to perfect parry, when to use those special back/forward dodges then timing the follow-ups to all of these with their special attacks and using combos with power up finishers etc it's so much fun. The rhythm of combat is just so good, they did an amazing job with it and the difficulty and variety of move sets for even regular enemies really keeps you engaged in the combat.

I love to read that so much. Before the demo arrived, I was worried about actual gameplay and quality because a lot of shit can go wrong, this being their first real console game. It's astonishing how good it turned out to be.

 

[regawdless]

Good and accurate hit boxes are so important and this game delivers:

 

[Zeta Dragoon]

Game, music, combat, level traversal, secrets and some of the sidequests are incredible. Only wish story and lore were tighter and some of the regions were more then desert 1/2/wasteland 1/2. Aside from

Spoiler: Spoilers

hidden bunkers that somehow disable her blade, and goes straight to Resident Evil/Dead Space tier. Over the shoulder camera with Eve using her gun just like Issac with his plasma cutter. Also her gun is awesome, especially with its upgrades and different munitions.

Eve gets thrown around if losing counters vs some of the monsters before panning to restart screen. Mobs are dangerous, the mobs

Spoiler: Spoilers

in Matrix 11 are obnoxious as fuck with their constant bullshit body hopping.

Mobs in great desert like to spring ambushes, hit hard and have a lot of ways to kill you.

Ok.

Spoiler: Falling Tunnel Sequence, What the absolute fuck

However failing the fall through the tunnel full of saws is the stuff of nightmares. Holy fucking shit don't fail that. Dying there is on par with the absolute worst Dead Space tier shit. Shocked, well not really gaming journalists focused more on Eves ass and apperal, instead of Eve being caught and gruesomely ripped apart in a fucking industrial grinder. Very, very jarring as nothing prior in combat or cutscenes came anywhere close to that level of absolute brutality.

 

[Spiders]

Mark murdered Stellar Blade.

 

[kiNeMs]

Mark murdered Stellar Blade.

Who?

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Mark murdered Stellar Blade.

Just saw this in full on my way to work.

I haven't played the game yet so I cannot really comment how much on point he is, but damn, he rips it a new one.

Who?

Best Youtube channel if you value dense gameplay over everything else in a videogame, I'd say.

 

[JORMBO]

Mark murdered Stellar Blade.

I don't really agree with a lot of what he said. I am not even sure what he is expecting from a videogame. He just sounds bitter the whole time.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

I don't really agree with a lot of what he said. I am not even sure what he is expecting from a videogame. He just sounds bitter the whole time.

I have been watching his channel for a while.
He is a hardcore arcade game player. One of these people who play through a bullet hell a few times in a row, and feel that the first level of Dodonpachi that's teaching the player the mechanics is already a waste of time, since it's hindering the enjoyment of hardcore gamers...

I am not as extreme as he is, but I understand what my problem is with modern console gaming after watching his stuff for a while.

It's just so much stuff that's just in there to bloat the play time. No real challenge either. Plus depth in mechanics has been lost as well over the past decade.

 

[Spiders]

Who?

Mark_MSX from The Electric Underground. Shmup/arcade channel.

 

[Spiders]

I am not as extreme as he is, but I understand what my problem is with modern console gaming after watching his stuff for a while.

Same, but I appreciate someone going to the mat for gameplay mechanics, and in general it seems most YT and streamers skew very positive like old-timey enthusiast press.

I would have bought Stellar Blade if/when it came to PC, but those fucking elevators, that stupid box dragging "puzzle", cooldowns on item opening, that stupid climbing section... would have had no idea if I didn't watch someone streaming it.

 

[Spiders]

I don't really agree with a lot of what he said. I am not even sure what he is expecting from a videogame. He just sounds bitter the whole time.

I think the overall thrust is that the "AAA" style of game design is "gamification" of play rather than gameplay. They use the feeling of playing a game along with a lot of psychological tricks and cognitive biases (the video mentions Peak-End Rule) to pad out a small amount of gameplay over a long period of time to optimize for mobile app design KPIs like retention, daily active users, session length and interval, churn rate, etc.

His man behind the scenes Boghog has a tweet that spells out all the ways modern games obfuscate the "game" part, as a cheeky list of demands for "accessibility for ADHD":

 

[regawdless]

Still 2024 Game of the Rear.

 

[JORMBO]

I have been watching his channel for a while.
He is a hardcore arcade game player. One of these people who play through a bullet hell a few times in a row, and feel that the first level of Dodonpachi that's teaching the player the mechanics is already a waste of time, since it's hindering the enjoyment of hardcore gamers...

I am not as extreme as he is, but I understand what my problem is with modern console gaming after watching his stuff for a while.

It's just so much stuff that's just in there to bloat the play time. No real challenge either. Plus depth in mechanics has been lost as well over the past decade.

Sounds like he is expecting something from the game that it simply isn't. I get what he is saying. But there are still games that are pure gameplay. This isn't one of them. If it was nothing but straight combat for the entire duration I would not like it. I like the mix of exploration, story, customization and mini games. They all help break things up while still keeping the combat as the main focus. I played a lot of arcade games growing up and still enjoy one every once in awhile. As I have gotten older I like games like Stellar Blade that mix things up more.

 

[rofif]

The game is so good it changed my life.
Combat? Amazing
Graphics? Amazing
Outfits ?! INCREDIBLE
MUSIC ?! LEGENDARY.

The views, post apocalypse, lore, angelic symbolism, latin. The game is actually quite deep and it's not up it's own ass (except eves ass).

Playing it, roaming around train graveyard, music playing. It's the most chill and best experience I had in some time.
And I keep switching costumes. They are all so good.
And Tachy design?! Actually made it into the game and is downright incredible. Everything from 2001 trailer is in the game

 

[DonDonDonPata]

Same, but I appreciate someone going to the mat for gameplay mechanics, and in general it seems most YT and streamers skew very positive like old-timey enthusiast press.

I would have bought Stellar Blade if/when it came to PC, but those fucking elevators, that stupid box dragging "puzzle", cooldowns on item opening, that stupid climbing section... would have had no idea if I didn't watch someone streaming it.

I think it might be a case where fans of the character-action genre get really numb to the annoying parts of their genre and they don't notice it anymore. The laser conveyor-belt part looked incredibly generic.

As a personal example, I heard nothing but praise for God of War Ragnarok. I got a free copy with my PS5. But I stopped playing entirely after the first 4 or 5 hours and I'll likely never go back. Sooooo many "cinematic" interactions with the environment. Sooooo many sluggish conversations where you walk through an area listening to your buddy yammer and you can't do anything to get to the destination faster. Combat itself felt incredibly loose and unresponsive, like I needed to hit just the right timing to make the cool moves come out. I gave up on Uncharted 4 for the same reason, and it put me off from trying Last of Us 2 (yeah, never even bothered to try it). And the thing is... I used to love all three franchises mentioned. It's something about modern game design that has really dragged the genre down.