[Franky Family]

Nobody knows what it will look like, perform like, or even it's name and yet if this is true then it appears that there's great confidence from the start that the console is going to take off immediately. Considering the Nintendo Switch's popularity, it's possible. 7 million units sold in such a short amount of time would be an unprecedented success. For reference, the PS4 sold 2.1 million in 15 days...

Latest 'Switch 2' Rumour Suggests Nintendo Is Preparing For An Enormous Launch

Initial shipments could dwarf previous systems

www.nintendolife.com

 

[DonDonDonPata]

I'm guessing this thing is gonna be fairly inexpensive.

 

[Rock And Roll]

I could actually see this rumor being true. If they reason they delayed the system was because of a software delay for launch, they've had plenty of time to ramp up production. Have it readily available to anyone who wants it and move as many units as possible. Assuming they don't follow the usual Nintendo trend of a train wreck after a success (this is a big if), they'll probably sell through those 7 million pretty quickly.

 

[HeresJohnny]

As long as they have two for me at launch.

 

[cryptoadam]

In 2035 lol.

Of course they have a shit ton of em they have been sitting on the launch for like 2 years now.

Just more rumors like the switch 2 direct is in October I'm super cereal guys.

Nintendo is going to sit on the Switch 2 until Swith OLED and light start selling less than 20K combined in Japan. Sony is going so horrible in Japan Nintendo can milk the OG for another 18 months.

 

[Spiders]

Honestly I'd take the "Switch Pro" at this point lol. When I saw SMTV:V for $30 on sale on Amazon it's like guys I really don't need much.

 

[Franky Family]

Start gearing up for the stampede boys. After hearing this, I'm going to try to secure a console two days before the official launch date. I might even buy two

Side note:
One Piece = the GOAT

 

[Boss Mog]

They will sell.

 

[Epic Nemesis]

Announce the fucking thing already. It would be so Nintendo to just sit on this thing until 11/25 and have an even more already obsolete handheld. I don't understand how you sit on off the shelf parts for over a year.

 

[DonDonDonPata]

Announce the fucking thing already. It would be so Nintendo to just sit on this thing until 11/25 and have an even more already obsolete handheld. I don't understand how you sit on off the shelf parts for over a year.

Nintendo was waiting on the US election results. Not even kidding.

Launching a new system in a bad economy is very tough. And we know Nintendo's history: they don't often have two big successes in a row. That unpredictability is partly why they are hedging their brand by doing movies, more merchandising (like LEGO Mario), and building theme parks.

Nintendo does not have a guaranteed success on their hands. Their leaders often chase boneheaded ideas which causes loss in market share.

 

[Zeta Dragoon]

I'm guessing this thing is gonna be fairly inexpensive.

$400-450 price range is my guess.

 

[cryptoadam]

Announce the fucking thing already. It would be so Nintendo to just sit on this thing until 11/25 and have an even more already obsolete handheld. I don't understand how you sit on off the shelf parts for over a year.

If they don't announce it by summer 2025 then it's not coming till 2026 and I can see that.

They have theme parks and movies now and Sony shat the bed in Japan.

 

[DonDonDonPata]

$400-450 price range is my guess.

If they were smart they'd sell it for $350 and maintain the Switch Lite at $200, maybe even do a Lite revision.

All three console manufacturers make the big bucks on the software, not the hardware. Getting as many people into the Nintendo ecosystem at rock bottom prices should be their #1 goal.

 

[HeresJohnny]

If they don't announce it by summer 2025 then it's not coming till 2026 and I can see that.

They have theme parks and movies now and Sony shat the bed in Japan.

This. Sony has completely lost Japan. It's been amazing to see because it honestly feels like a mix of Sony just being fucking retarded (which they very much are these days) and the fact that Japan has always loved Nintendo handhelds. Sony is very much chasing western sensibilities and that made sense due to its biggest competitor being MS, but now that MS literally shot themselves in the face, Sony is all warriored up like the Scots and the Irish in Braveheart, only in this alternate universe, Longshanks went totally gay and then jumped off a castle parapet before the fighting began. So now Sony, having won that war by default would be like Mel Gibson putting himself in the stocks and ripping his own entrails out, leaving Nintendo completely unchecked and able to dominate the world, which is exactly what is about to happen.

 

[DonDonDonPata]

If they don't announce it by summer 2025 then it's not coming till 2026 and I can see that.

They have theme parks and movies now and Sony shat the bed in Japan.

You guys aren't gonna see a Switch 2 until 2026. Don't be mad if I'm right.

 

[DonDonDonPata]

Nintendo is in a difficult position. They've always benefitted from twin pipelines of handheld and console. Switch is still below 150 million which is 100 million fewer units than the DS/Wii generation. Nintendo households often bought two (or more) systems with two different pipelines of games, like Mario Land on handheld and Mario World on console. Instead of two versions of Mario Kart and Smash Bros to sell, they have one unified version. I don't know about total software sales but I'm guessing Switch is also lower than Wii + DS.

They can't reduce their pipelines any further. This hybrid is it. They're locked into the idea for another generation, at least. This is why I think their position is more precarious than most folks think, not because they're doing badly right NOW, but because of how they've cornered themselves.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

If they put out patches for their 1st party games to run at 60fps I'm buying it day 1, I'd love to replay TotK with a competent frame rate.

 

[Pagusas]

This thing is going to be so horribly out of date the moment it launches. I know it won't matter, but just crazy thinking how long it's been finished and just sitting waiting to be released.

 

[DonDonDonPata]

If they put out patches for their 1st party games to run at 60fps I'm buying it day 1, I'd love to replay TotK with a competent frame rate.

That would be a big selling point for me too. That's kinda what happened with the PS5 in my case. Huge Ps4 library but my Pro went kaput, so I had the choice of replacing it or spending ~150 more to get the PS5 which played all my old games plus the access to new games coming out.

 

[Torrent of Pork]

Nintendo is in a difficult position. They've always benefitted from twin pipelines of handheld and console. Switch is still below 150 million which is 100 million fewer units than the DS/Wii generation. Nintendo households often bought two (or more) systems with two different pipelines of games, like Mario Land on handheld and Mario World on console. Instead of two versions of Mario Kart and Smash Bros to sell, they have one unified version. I don't know about total software sales but I'm guessing Switch is also lower than Wii + DS.

They can't reduce their pipelines any further. This hybrid is it. They're locked into the idea for another generation, at least. This is why I think their position is more precarious than most folks think, not because they're doing badly right NOW, but because of how they've cornered themselves.

I honestly don't know if I believe this, isn't Nintendo more financially successful than they've ever been with the Switch? I think if they can hit Steam Deck performance for $400 they'll be at the sweet spot for 3rd party support. Last time around nobody thought the Switch would be the juggernaut it became, I honestly believe the Switch 2 will have one of the largest launch lineups ever with devs having a shit-load of games ready to go since the damn thing was expected to release around now.

Take COD for example, I'd eat my hat if the Switch 2 didn't launch with Black Ops 6 day 1.

 

[Chozofication]

If they put out patches for their 1st party games to run at 60fps I'm buying it day 1, I'd love to replay TotK with a competent frame rate.

Not a chance sadly

 

[DonDonDonPata]

I honestly don't know if I believe this, isn't Nintendo more financially successful than they've ever been with the Switch? I think if they can hit Steam Deck performance for $400 they'll be at the sweet spot for 3rd party support. Last time around nobody thought the Switch would be the juggernaut it became, I honestly believe the Switch 2 will have one of the largest launch lineups ever with devs having a shit-load of games ready to go since the damn thing was expected to release around now.

Take COD for example, I'd eat my hat if the Switch 2 didn't launch with Black Ops 6 day 1.

I dunno, I always figured the Switch would be big for the reasons explained above: it was a unified pipeline, which meant more games.

Those years of "Nintendo drought" must've left the popular memory because Nintendo has been struggling to support 2 platforms even during the Wii and DS. Switch solved that from the start. The system is packed with software.

a backwards-compatible Switch 2 will be competing against that old software. We might end up with a situation like 3DS where 3DS-native sequels sold worse than the DS version, or a situation like PS5 and Xbox series. And I think Nintendo would anger a lot of fans if they filled the Switch 2 library with remasters of Switch 1 games like Sony has been doing.

If Nintendo has a ton of games lined up for the first 18-24 months, they'll probably do really well. I hope that's the case.

 

[Chozofication]

Regarding enhanced back compatibility I think the best you can hope for is that the games that run with unlocked fps hit the frame rate cap. Games like zelda link's awakening that run 30-60 or smrpg remake. But tbh I really don't necessarily expect that, games might just run as they did given Nintendo's conservatism.

Games capped at 30 you can forget them enhancing anything they don't want to skip the chance for a boxed remaster sale.

 

[Franky Family]

If they put out patches for their 1st party games to run at 60fps I'm buying it day 1, I'd love to replay TotK with a competent frame rate.

I'm hoping that it'll be powerful enough to look like maybe almost PS5 tier graphics. If it's able to handle somewhere between PS4 and PS5 I'll be both a little surprised and more than happy for the upgrade. Mainly because I want to purchase every Resident Evil game available on the console

 

[Torrent of Pork]

I'm hoping that it'll be powerful enough to look like maybe almost PS5 tier graphics. If it's able to handle somewhere between PS4 and PS5 I'll be both a little surprised and more than happy for the upgrade. Mainly because I want to purchase every Resident Evil game available on the console

Nintendo hasn't been in the business of subsidizing their hardware since the Game Cube. Get all ideas of it being even remotely close to the PS5/XSX out of your head right now.

Even with upscaling it will be a fight to break even at Steam Deck capability for $400.

 

[Franky Family]

Nintendo hasn't been in the business of subsidizing their hardware since the Game Cube. Get all ideas of it being even remotely close to the PS5/XSX out of your head right now.

Even with upscaling it will be a fight to break even at Steam Deck capability for $400.

 

[Hinedorf]

I've bought into the Switch ecosystem so much and greatly enjoyed it. Far and away the coolest and most accessible handheld/console in existence.

All they'd really need to get me on board is make my existing Switch 1 content transferrable and I'm Day 1 on the Switch 2. In the event it's not transferrable I'm buying a brand new Switch near their EoL just as a backup

 

[Spiders]

Nintendo was waiting on the US election results. Not even kidding.

Launching a new system in a bad economy is very tough. And we know Nintendo's history: they don't often have two big successes in a row. That unpredictability is partly why they are hedging their brand by doing movies, more merchandising (like LEGO Mario), and building theme parks.

Nintendo does not have a guaranteed success on their hands. Their leaders often chase boneheaded ideas which causes loss in market share.

They're being conservative to the point it's almost exciting... Switch for 5 more years!
Election is a good call. Worried about economy "mood" and prospects plus possible tariffs.

Really boring video about Nintendo and tariffs:

 

[Epic Nemesis]

Their leaders often chase boneheaded ideas which causes loss in market share.

Boneheaded ideas like sitting on finalized hardware on a handheld for a year rather than targeting a specbump after committing to the delay.

 

[DonDonDonPata]

Boneheaded ideas like sitting on finalized hardware on a handheld for a year rather than targeting a specbump after committing to the delay.

Maybe. I think their boneheadedness tends to be the features they jump on, like lens-free 3D or cheap Fisher Price tablet.

Generally I think Nintendo's timing tends to be really good. I mean, a PS3-level handheld is still outselling current gen consoles.

 

[Mickmrly]

Even though the Switch 2's hardware will be a bit out of date when it launches, it shouldn't matter too much. Software developers these days are failing to make use of the better specs in the PS5/XSX (they need 20 years at minimum to do that it seems), so the downgrading necessary for Switch 2 ports won't really be that extreme.

The OG Switch has the technology to play all the main genres, so there shouldn't be any good excuse for developers not being able to create Switch 2 ports easily enough. The Switch could do with some more simulations, and since the OG Switch can already run Civ 6 and City Skylines, hopefully they release a port of Civ 7 and City Skylines 2 within a reasonable time.

 

[Mal]

From an obsolete console to a new obsolete console, what a joke.

I'll still get a launch unit because it'll probably be easily like the current switch, though

 

[Stouffers]

Roller Coaster Tycoon the week after next!

 

[cryptoadam]

This. Sony has completely lost Japan. It's been amazing to see because it honestly feels like a mix of Sony just being fucking retarded (which they very much are these days) and the fact that Japan has always loved Nintendo handhelds. Sony is very much chasing western sensibilities and that made sense due to its biggest competitor being MS, but now that MS literally shot themselves in the face, Sony is all warriored up like the Scots and the Irish in Braveheart, only in this alternate universe, Longshanks went totally gay and then jumped off a castle parapet before the fighting began. So now Sony, having won that war by default would be like Mel Gibson putting himself in the stocks and ripping his own entrails out, leaving Nintendo completely unchecked and able to dominate the world, which is exactly what is about to happen.

Ps5 is being outsold by the light and the pro sales dropped huge week 2 and by next week they will probably drop below the OG.
Nintendo is highly Japan focused. As long as they are making money in Japan that's all they care about. They own the market and Oled and lite are selling 30 to 40K a week with software dominating and many evergreen titles.
I expect some big rumors and Nintendo to announce a direct and then hit us with the Nintendo toilet paper holder for 149.99.

 

[teezzy]

I'd be up for a device which optimizes performance of my current physical Switch library

If, like Xbox, its compatible with last gen controllers and docks id be even happier

 

[Arkam]

I know nothing. But I half expect Nintendo to drop jaws with some Nvidia tech that does actually leapfrog the Steam deck.

 

[HeresJohnny]

Even though the Switch 2's hardware will be a bit out of date when it launches, it shouldn't matter too much. Software developers these days are failing to make use of the better specs in the PS5/XSX (they need 20 years at minimum to do that it seems), so the downgrading necessary for Switch 2 ports won't really be that extreme.

The OG Switch has the technology to play all the main genres, so there shouldn't be any good excuse for developers not being able to create Switch 2 ports easily enough. The Switch could do with some more simulations, and since the OG Switch can already run Civ 6 and City Skylines, hopefully they release a port of Civ 7 and City Skylines 2 within a reasonable time.

I think that's what I loved about Switch so much; it feels very much like a traditional console in that a bunch of games that many said would've been impossible to port to it turned out great, like Witcher 3, Kingdom Come, Red Dead, Doom, or Skyrim. It used to be that console development always got better and better through the life of a console and even though the aforementioned games had some limitations the fact that I can play them on the go or on my big screen is super attractive.

We've reached an era of diminishing returns graphically. I mean, what more proof of that is needed than the fact that guys like DF have to filter through games to really tell differences? To your average player, they don't give a fuck about RT and probably don't even know about it, and probably couldn't point it out in footage even if they did. My wife had a steak at Morton's tonight and it cost $110. I took a bite of it and it was superb, but could I have told the difference between her Wagyu filet and a regular one that costs half as much? Probably not. I'm sure there are people who could easily but they are not the masses, and that's what the tech race feels like these days: the wagyu crowd, and then everybody else. There are not many who are going to buy wagyu and even fewer still who can tell the difference and not many people are going to expensive steak houses if it isn't a special occasion. Somehow the console market got up its own ass thinking that it can sell $800 hardware in appreciable numbers when the vast majority of people in the pool who play games just don't care enough to pay the vanilla price of $500, let alone $800.

 

[teezzy]

I think that's what I loved about Switch so much; it feels very much like a traditional console in that a bunch of games that many said would've been impossible to port to it turned out great, like Witcher 3, Kingdom Come, Red Dead, Doom, or Skyrim. It used to be that console development always got better and better through the life of a console and even though the aforementioned games had some limitations the fact that I can play them on the go or on my big screen is super attractive.

We've reached an era of diminishing returns graphically. I mean, what more proof of that is needed than the fact that guys like DF have to filter through games to really tell differences? To your average player, they don't give a fuck about RT and probably don't even know about it, and probably couldn't point it out in footage even if they did. My wife had a steak at Morton's tonight and it cost $110. I took a bite of it and it was superb, but could I have told the difference between her Wagyu filet and a regular one that costs half as much? Probably not. I'm sure there are people who could easily but they are not the masses, and that's what the tech race feels like these days: the wagyu crowd, and then everybody else. There are not many who are going to buy wagyu and even fewer still who can tell the difference and not many people are going to expensive steak houses if it isn't a special occasion. Somehow the console market got up its own ass thinking that it can sell $800 hardware in appreciable numbers when the vast majority of people in the pool who play games just don't care enough to pay the vanilla price of $500, let alone $800.

Anyone who really cares about the tech race is playing on PC anyhow. Console warring is just team sports beyond that

 

[Optimus]

I know nothing. But I half expect Nintendo to drop jaws with some Nvidia tech that does actually leapfrog the Steam deck.

This is almost guaranteed.

 

[Spiders]

Even though the Switch 2's hardware will be a bit out of date when it launches, it shouldn't matter too much. Software developers these days are failing to make use of the better specs in the PS5/XSX (they need 20 years at minimum to do that it seems), so the downgrading necessary for Switch 2 ports won't really be that extreme.

The OG Switch has the technology to play all the main genres, so there shouldn't be any good excuse for developers not being able to create Switch 2 ports easily enough. The Switch could do with some more simulations, and since the OG Switch can already run Civ 6 and City Skylines, hopefully they release a port of Civ 7 and City Skylines 2 within a reasonable time.

True. "Outdated hardware" is becoming an outdated concept. If you're not targeting/ optimizing for Steam Deck specs at the least, you're making movies for 3D glasses in the streaming age.