Palworld - Pokemon with an... interesting twist
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It's less me defending them and more me calling a spade a spade. Upsets neckbeards like you who for some reason take pleasure in stealing software. AH FUCK NINTENDO! I'm still gonna play their entertaining games though, just for free because FUCK NINTENDO! and pretend I don't care about them at all! fuck the big N!
Can't even provide a single source source to back up your own claim
Saying fuck a company yet you still support their product one way or another...
What is your issue with people thinking that Nintendo's behavior and actions are reasonable in this situation?
How does that constitute "defending" them as if it's something irrational. What are you worried will happen as a result of this defense?
lock2k
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It is irrational to defend a company that will fuck fans over for petty stuff. They put people in prison in Japan for something called fair use. Corporations are not our friends. Why is this such a controversial thing to understand?
I guess I don't know what you mean by "defend" in this case. I can totally see why Nintendo would defend their IPs as much as they can within the law of the territories in which they operate their business. It doesn't mean I'm going to go fight a war for them or really do anything beyond voicing my opinion on a forum like this.
What are you talking about with this putting people in prison nonsense? Nintendo does not have the power to put anyone in prison.
And of course corporations aren't anyone's "friend," but that doesn't mean the people working there don't make things that a lot of us enjoy.
DonDonDonPata
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Further proof that Palworld was never good, it was just a way for grown adults to puff out their chests and roar "fuck you Nintendo now I can enjoy my cartoon animals WITHOUT you!!"
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I don't know, there's a good idea in there and the core gameplay loop is quite engaging. It needs more time to cook and given it's early access that was always expected. I don't think many, if any, bought this as a middle finger to Nintendo and The Pokemon Company. Personally, I saw it as a fun spin on the creature capture thing but with guns and a base building component.
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I think there's some ignorance about what Nintendo is doing here. They're suing for patent infringement, on a patent they jammed through this summer, and because Japan has a silly enough legal system to allow ex post facto bullshit Nintendo isn't immediately getting laughed out of court.
I love Nintendo, but fuck these guys on this one.
I love Nintendo, but fuck these guys on this one.
Calcium
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Nah, game was pretty fun. I enjoyed it way more than any of the recent Pokemon entries I've played.
Hostile_18
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Trying to patent Bullet Time, the Nemisis System, capturing animals in the wild with balls... completely stupid and trying to take advantage of a broken system.
DonDonDonPata
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The first several pages of this thread are full of "haha fuck you Nintendo and fuck you Nintendo simps", and now it's filling back up with those exact same type of comments.
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But that's not representative of why an initial purchase of Palworld was made. The fuck you Nintendo stuff comes from the fact that they're chasing litigation based off a shite patent and many here are probably detractors of Nintendo's behaviour in regards to rigorously defending their IP, I'm one of them.
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Yup. None of the PC gamers on this site have talked about this game for months. More than half a year to be precise. But when a legal battle appears it's somehow worth discussing?
DonDonDonPata
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That's definitely a part of why Palworld took off in popularity, is all I'm getting at. When the rumors of litigation started swirling around Palworld's launch, buying the game as a "fuck you Nintendo" was a part of the sales surge. Early Steam reviews were almost always making mention of the litigation.
It might be hard for you to understand what a precedence is but it isn't for some of us. Especially on PC, most people are happy that companies can take the formula from genre's like bullet hells, souls likes, enemy hells, etc, and iterate them in ways that fans can enjoy from more than just one source, even if they look very similar. Especially if what they are copying goes astray in the eyes of it's fans. That way more people can be satisfied. Instead of constantly complaining about the direction X company took with Y game, they can find satisfaction in something similar. What Nintendo is doing here is basically one step closer to patenting a formula and stopping all of that from happening. If they can patent throwing a ball to capture something, then why couldn't they patent other aspects as well such as collecting monsters, training them and battling?
For some of us, it isn't the fact that it's happening to this specific game. I'd be alarmed no matter what game it was.
Never played Palworld, Pokemon has lots of lapsed fans worldwide and Nintendo and Gamefreak have massively mishandled the IP in the last 10 years or so.
It is understandable that people wanting an actual serious attempt at a 3D Pokemon style game but with some fun twists and hybrid mechanics from shooters, Fortnight etc.. would get people who are disaffected Pokemon fans interested in the game is no surprise.
Also no surprise that these same people might be like "Well if Nintendo isn't going to give me what I want and these guys will then fuck Nintendo, bring on the Palworld!"
In addition to that when the fake rumours started going around from crazed Nfanboys about stolen models and other silly things, a lot of people assumed Nintendo might try to sue them, which the Nfanboys were gleeful at the prospect so a lot of people also uttered "Fuck off Nintendo!". Partially due to all of Nintendo's recent litigation attempts over the past decade and partially due to viewing a new indie underdog as being unfairly attacked by a mega corp like Nintendo.
Cut to now and Nintendo is actually taking legal action, in one of the most laughable attempts so far. Trying to patent individual game mechanics is like trying to patent pressing a button to jump. Nintendo is a huge company with massive reserves of cash and the most popular and profitable IPs in gaming, not to mention Yakuza connections in Japan which both can help influence prosecutors, courts and politicians there.
The fact that they are attacking a small Indie company over this is absolutely shameful and sets a horrifying and chilling precedent. Any sane person should be against this and rightly critizing Nintendo. Instead we have in Japan, parts of the internet and even a few in this very thread defending Nintendo because they love their plastic box and overriding their critical thinking skills. Stop acting like retards guys, you know this shit is wrong and that Nintendo is fishing for literally ANYTHING to "get" these guys on when this whole thing was settled with the Gianna Sisters lawsuit way back when which all of the industry has massively benefited from.
In short, fuck Nintendo for this I hope they lose badly so that it sends a message to them and any other corrupt companies trying this same shit in both gaming and outside of it.
It is understandable that people wanting an actual serious attempt at a 3D Pokemon style game but with some fun twists and hybrid mechanics from shooters, Fortnight etc.. would get people who are disaffected Pokemon fans interested in the game is no surprise.
Also no surprise that these same people might be like "Well if Nintendo isn't going to give me what I want and these guys will then fuck Nintendo, bring on the Palworld!"
In addition to that when the fake rumours started going around from crazed Nfanboys about stolen models and other silly things, a lot of people assumed Nintendo might try to sue them, which the Nfanboys were gleeful at the prospect so a lot of people also uttered "Fuck off Nintendo!". Partially due to all of Nintendo's recent litigation attempts over the past decade and partially due to viewing a new indie underdog as being unfairly attacked by a mega corp like Nintendo.
Cut to now and Nintendo is actually taking legal action, in one of the most laughable attempts so far. Trying to patent individual game mechanics is like trying to patent pressing a button to jump. Nintendo is a huge company with massive reserves of cash and the most popular and profitable IPs in gaming, not to mention Yakuza connections in Japan which both can help influence prosecutors, courts and politicians there.
The fact that they are attacking a small Indie company over this is absolutely shameful and sets a horrifying and chilling precedent. Any sane person should be against this and rightly critizing Nintendo. Instead we have in Japan, parts of the internet and even a few in this very thread defending Nintendo because they love their plastic box and overriding their critical thinking skills. Stop acting like retards guys, you know this shit is wrong and that Nintendo is fishing for literally ANYTHING to "get" these guys on when this whole thing was settled with the Gianna Sisters lawsuit way back when which all of the industry has massively benefited from.
In short, fuck Nintendo for this I hope they lose badly so that it sends a message to them and any other corrupt companies trying this same shit in both gaming and outside of it.
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One thing that was surprising to me, is that Nintendo didn't have the Poké Ball patent registered until 2021... I figured everything about Pokémon was already handled and taken care of in the late 90s or at the very latest, the early 2000s. It's fairly simple, but it's abstract. Throwing magical balls that capture and house Pokémon or magical monsters with the likeness of animals is a very simple idea, but who else thought to do that? Can you find me an example before Pokémon where a spherical ball captures a pocket monster who becomes your ally and fights or battles beside you after being caught in said magical ball? It's about the same concept of that one person inventing the sponge with the smiley face; something unbelievably simple that worked and people loved it, but who thought to do that and who went through with everything to turn it into a viable product to one day be sold globally? Nobody can patent a formula, that's ridiculous. Nintendo is suing because Palworld copied the same exact system that makes use of a very specific item with a very specific function or purpose
For example, Super Mario Sunshine has Mario and a talking, robotic, water-propelling sludge cleaning machine. If a development team makes a similar game where they implement a talking, robotic, water-propelling sludge cleaning machine in their game, what do you think is going to happen? It's the same thing happening in this Nintendo vs Palworld lawsuit except we're looking at the patent infringement against the Poké Ball. I think the other infringements against Pocket Pair might not be taken as seriously in court, but there is something there will the ball patent
You're asking why someone cannot patent the act of collecting, training, and battling but you already know the answer to that. Nobody can patent something that broad. If people could, everything under the sun would be off limits and legally protected by law. Things already can get a bit ridiculous with the patent system as it is now yes, but I think your worry is misplaced. Or at least, I'm never going to fret over laws that are out of my control
A) Poké Ball is thrown
B) Pokémon resists capture in the same manner a hooked fish wants to escape being caught
C) Pokémon is secured and housed inside Poké Ball for later adventuring and/or battling
D) Player enters Gym or encounters an wild Pokémon or fellow Pokémon Trainer, they toss a Poké Ball and 1v1 battle Pokémon in succession until all Pokémon are defeated
Pokémon is not a complicated game nor has it ever been. Pocket Pair bit the concept and the ideas of Pokémon, now they're preparing for a lawsuit because of it. There's not a whole lot left to say, except to get the popcorn ready for when the next development takes place in this case. I can't say that this issue interests me all that much, but I do find it slightly amusing that so many PC gamers are so upset about all of this. If Nintendo wins, I'm playing Nintendo games and saying I figured they'd win. If Nintendo loses, I'm still playing Nintendo games and I'll watch the PC gamers yell Fuck Nintendo in unison with all the high fives and whatnot. The latter outcome will light a fire under GameFreak and The Pokémon Company's ass, which is good, but I just don't see it happening. As already noted above, ideas were clearly stolen
Palworld devs sold 25 million copies of a game that was obviously ripped from the Pokémon games. Almost anyone could make a pretty penny if they had the audacity to steal intellectual property. Guys, I got this amazing original idea... Why don't we just STEAL the recipe that the most profitable media franchise on planet Earth uses to make their billions of dollars? Who's going to notice and take action? Surely not the companies we have taken from... What could possibly go wrong? And get this, I will have PC gamers on forums and on Steam who will shake their fists at anyone who disagrees with our plagiarizing, in support of us. Nintendo and Nintendo fans are beneath all and we will conquer them with our totally original ideas and profit big! That will show them, that will show them all! We'll just continually feign ignorance of all that was done and hope the lawsuit goes our way when it comes <------- literally Palworld's entire plan
Despite your take on the matter, it can be argued that the small Indie company attacked Nintendo. That small indie company sold 25 million copies of a game predicated on stolen ideas. You can cry unfair all you want bro, there's a legal battle taking place whether anyone likes it or not and the center of it seems to be about the Poké Ball. I'm not a lawyer, and clearly nobody else in this thread is, but my stance remains the same. Pocket pair went ahead and creatively subverted a key idea in the Pokémon franchise, that idea being the Poké Ball. This big fish attacks little fish is nothing new in the legal world and you know it, that's just how it goes unfortunately. But there is something to be said about the patent infringement that Palworld decided to cross. They had years to consider dropping the project when it was still young after Nintendo filed for their ball throwing patent but Pocket Pair decided to press forward and see what action the multibillion dollar company would decide to take. I don't pity them at all. Their attempt in making Palworld wasn't exactly sincere. Just look at it. They boldly took a specific idea that has proven itself to sell dozens of millions of copies with each release and they ran with it knowing full well what could happen... Take inspiration from a game or franchise sure but they flew too close to the sun
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Great response. Reminds me of how the left handle debate topics. You Kamala now bro?Bro...you are literally beyond help
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I figured you two had something to say. Guess not. Why bother quoting someone for discussion if you're too pussy to even continue the conversation you brought them in for in the first place?
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The problem with the patent is the fact it is entirely too broad. Read the abstract and tell me that isn't entirely limiting to any potential competitor, no matter how much of a rip off it might be.
Dude... Who cares who did it first? Imagine if FROM tried to patent the SYSTEM of using a CAMPFIRE to save your progress, upgrade using souls you've collected from defeating enemies, etc. We wouldn't have quite a lot of these awesome souls-likes who take aspects of the popular games and iterate in other aspects because they'd be afraid of being sued into oblivion. And that's just if they were to patent just that ONE aspect. But why would they stop there if they win the patent and the case?
Other examples are Diablo and it's system of inventory management, colorful tiered loot drops etc. Stardew Valley and it's farming system... I mean, the list goes on.
A game mechanic is an interactive element or a set of rules that govern player input and game response. A mechanic and a system are the same thing. The mechanics within a game make up the formula. The whole argument here is that Nintendo are doing this step by step and are getting one step closer to patenting a formula... It's the precedent being set that is the issue. But as I said before, when companies start patenting even just the smaller systems within their games and start using them to litigate then that shuts down a whole lot of possibilities for others to iterate while keeping the aspects of the genre that people like the most.
In other words, it's in your best interest as a consumer, that is if you consume more than just Nintendo's properties, to not want Nintendo to block stuff like this. And to be frank, if Nintendo is so great, they'll be just fine and should have nothing to worry about. People will still buy their games even if other games exist that are very similar. Eg, Dark souls and all the other souls-likes. The only way FROM would need to worry is if they started to stray from what the fans actually wanted and were stubborn about it and wanted to shove it down their throats, losing goodwill, making people turn to other souls-like's more than them. But they embrace the lookalikes and gain massive appreciation from fans as a result. And because of that, when a lookalike comes along that is just too blatant and similar, the consumers generally sort it on their own and mostly just don't buy them because they'd rather play the better, more polished version FROM pumps out.
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It sounds broad but when I read it, the patent is essentially describing the mechanics of throwing a Poké Ball. It's been since the days of the Game Boy Advance that I played a true mainline Pokémon game but that patent sounds like it covers throwing capture balls at Pokémon and to release Pokémon out of the ball for battle. There are a ton of patents to watch out for when you're creating something, why should I be upset with Nintendo when literally every single company that has patents hires lawyers to write these patents up? Dig and find patents from Xbox, PlayStation, other companies and I'm sure there will be some patents that push the envelope just the same. Business is insanely competitive and business can be cutthroat. I don't like that it is that way, nor do I want it to be that way, but that's business for you. It is what it is
The problem with the patent is the fact it is entirely too broad. Read the abstract and tell me that isn't entirely limiting to any potential competitor, no matter how much of a rip off it might be.
What do you mean who cares who does it first... The first to do something has the right to patent and claim what they brought forth to the world. Imagine a world where the inventor just gets fucked every time by airheads who had no role in anything except wanting to steal what you yourself had to wrack your mind over for years to create; had to toil to create... You probably wouldn't even have any Souls games had it not been for Ocarina of Time, but that's another topic for another day. It goes without saying, if there is an idea unique enough to be patented then somebody probably will try to get it patented. And they should. Sony has more patents than Nintendo by a long shot
You are worrying a lot about possibilities being shut down, but possibilities are next to limitless in my view. And personally, I don't care to see hundreds of watered down renditions of popular games, but to each his own. I barely finish a handful of games each year most years. For a stretch of time, I was probably only completing one or two video games each year
If the idea that you have in mind to put in your game was already implemented and put to good use in a product then you're out of luck. You have to scrap what you created or pay the price for infringing. For example, if I make an instrumental track for a video game or a song and think to myself man this really good, kind of simple but it's great and then sell it only to find out I accidentally took from somebody else's work then what happens? Do I get to simply say my fault and move on? No. I have to pay the price for diminishing another's work if it it's proven that my work is too similar. That musical track might have been used for something in the guy's debut movie or his life's work or something meanwhile I sold what I thought was my own original creation to some talentless mumble rapper who overpaid for the instrumental and made some sleezy stripper song that nobody except Zoomers can comprehend. Original intellectual property belongs to the creator and patent holder of said IP and nobody else. You have to honor that. Businessmen have to acknowledge that there are patent laws in place for a reason
You can talk all you'd like about this case setting a precedent, if it settles in favor of Nintendo that's that. If Palworld wins then that's the end result. Is there anything we can do about either outcome? The answer is not really, there isn't much we can do. We aren't a group of patent lawyers. So what can we even do as gamers? It's like trying to stop a freight train with one of those green plastic army soldiers. Gaming companies are going to file hundreds of patents each year to protect their creative ideas and yes they're going to go for every inch possible that they can get. Why wouldn't they? Some of their parents are going to be ridiculously broad. Right now we're zeroing in about four of them in this case but what about the tens of thousand that never got this spotlight shined on them; the ones that never received this level of attention? What's the plan of attack and what's your end goal? We're not stopping anything bro. Great games are always going to be made, I would not fret if I were you over such a trivial case. Nintendo is only looking after their own in this case. Every single business does that
The problem with the patent is the fact it is entirely too broad. Read the abstract and tell me that isn't entirely limiting to any potential competitor, no matter how much of a rip off it might be.
Looks like that is describing the control scheme and mechanics for Pokémon Legends: Arceus and Scarlet & Violet. Would make sense given the timing (the games came out in 2022) and the listed "inventor" who is the director of Arceus.
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Palworld designer admits copying as Nintendo, Pokemon pursue legal action | KrASIA
A self-proclaimed Palworld designer reveals the game contains plagiarized content, deepening Nintendo and The Pokemon Company’s patent lawsuit.
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Shaqazooloo
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They could just try to compete and make an actually not atrocious pokemon entry, but they're too pathetic for that.
Sean Mirrsen
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I guess a lot of it is because Pokemon is very stuck on its 'child-friendly' official brand image, so it can't overtly appeal to the bigger mature audience like Palworld can. So all they can do is fight back in courts.
Honestly it kind of sucks that Palworld decided to go all-out silly with its premise. A proper 'darker' pocket-monster-verse, without the absurdity like straight up gun-toting 'mons, or the sweatshops, would have been great. More dark fantasy, less modern day internet meme level crap.
Honestly it kind of sucks that Palworld decided to go all-out silly with its premise. A proper 'darker' pocket-monster-verse, without the absurdity like straight up gun-toting 'mons, or the sweatshops, would have been great. More dark fantasy, less modern day internet meme level crap.
Shaqazooloo
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The real issue is that Pokémon hasn't really evolved that much over it's existence, Legends: Arceus was the first time it looked like they were trying to modernize it's gameplay and give greater interactivity between the player and Pokémon.
As successful as Scarlet & Violet and Sword & Shield are I feel like those underperformed in comparison to all of Nintendo's other franchises that had previously sold less than Pokémon now selling way more, even the remake titles had little growth. Pokémon should've popped off like Animal Crossing or close to it.
I think The Pokémon Company realized that Pokémon (atleast when it comes to the games) is in a weak position, they can't let the games continue to be stagnant while also getting a bad rep of being a complete mess or it will hurt the franchise in the long run. Games that are Pokémon adjacent that bring negativity to it could have long term damage on the brand.
I could be wrong but I think their current idea is try to take out Palworld and deliver on the next Pokémon games to prevent people from jumping ship. Theirs enough evidence showing that they want to not have another Scarlet and Violet, whether they change up gameplay remains to be seen Legends Arceus and hopefully Z-A indicate they are willing to. They delayed Z-A to 2025 instead of internally having it be 2024, they established a new company called Pokémon Works, which is a support studio for Pokémon games and the general attitude The Pokémon Company has had about all of this leads me to believe they really feel threatened and don't want to risk Palworld existence or another mess.
I'm hoping that all this results in them locking in and making something truly amazing, but like others I'm pretty pessimistic (also I think GameFreak is just a bad dev studio).
As successful as Scarlet & Violet and Sword & Shield are I feel like those underperformed in comparison to all of Nintendo's other franchises that had previously sold less than Pokémon now selling way more, even the remake titles had little growth. Pokémon should've popped off like Animal Crossing or close to it.
I think The Pokémon Company realized that Pokémon (atleast when it comes to the games) is in a weak position, they can't let the games continue to be stagnant while also getting a bad rep of being a complete mess or it will hurt the franchise in the long run. Games that are Pokémon adjacent that bring negativity to it could have long term damage on the brand.
I could be wrong but I think their current idea is try to take out Palworld and deliver on the next Pokémon games to prevent people from jumping ship. Theirs enough evidence showing that they want to not have another Scarlet and Violet, whether they change up gameplay remains to be seen Legends Arceus and hopefully Z-A indicate they are willing to. They delayed Z-A to 2025 instead of internally having it be 2024, they established a new company called Pokémon Works, which is a support studio for Pokémon games and the general attitude The Pokémon Company has had about all of this leads me to believe they really feel threatened and don't want to risk Palworld existence or another mess.
I'm hoping that all this results in them locking in and making something truly amazing, but like others I'm pretty pessimistic (also I think GameFreak is just a bad dev studio).
The_Mike
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Fuck Nintendo. I start to agree with people saying it's a human right to pirate their games.
Sean Mirrsen
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What, for a corporation acting like a corporation? It's a right to pirate all games, then.
As long as they're using legal means to try and protect their sources of income, they're no worse than any other part of this industry - whatever else you may think of how they handle the development of their franchises.
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There are so many shitty things that Nintendo has done throughout the ages that are just so anti consumer.
They are sueing Palworld because the game is so much more popular than Pokémon. There's been plenty of games before Palworld that has a capture companion features, even World of Warcraft has a similar feature, where you can battle pets and capture them when they are low on health.
They are trying to patent alot of stuff and retroactively sue Palworld. They didnt care in the beginning until Sony got into the game and made a deal with the devs.
Nintendo should rather spend their time on making these mediocre Pokemon games better instead as the last recent ones has been utter shit. One example here.
I have tried to check out these patents without the best luck, but afaik they tried to take patent on how you ride a mount, and how a pet battle gets presented before the battle.
That are some serious scummy patents to take, and will greatly hinder gaming creativity in the future. Just like The Shadow of Mordor devs who took patent on the nemesis system.
If Nintendo could take patent on double jumping or third person camera, they would without a doubt.
Those 23 patents they tried to make, only to hurt Palworld, would have damaged the whole gaming industry in general.
Nintendo are taking youtube videos down that shows Nintendo's games, and I am not talking about emulators. There's several users, even bigger youtubers, who ended up stop streaming and showing gameplay from Nintendo games because of this.
They also had a YouTube creator program, that if you made a video of a Nintendo game you had to split the revenue with Nintendo.
Nintendo also sued Blockbuster in the old days for photocopying manuals for games they rent out, in case the original manual got destroyed.
And also how they fuck up the emulation scene. I fully understand their defending of Switch games, as that console is still recent and they do earn money from that, but going crazy over old ROMs that are no longer obtainable by any legal means.
They aren't losing sources of income of products they are no longer selling.
They closed the 3DS Eshop and the wii u shop so you can no longer access the games that you've bought.
You can no longer obtain the vast majority of 3DS and Wii U games, and they are still bitchy about it.
I do understand that its their properties, but compared to Microsoft and Sony, they dont really care enough about their old platforms, even though they easily could do the same.
if Microsoft and Sony did the same as Nintendo, it would slip under as standard corporation stuff. But Nintendo being the only one so aggresive over this just shows how a shitty company they are.
I think personally its fair that the bowser guy who hacked switches to play pirated games should get a punishment for it, but 3½ years of prison time (even though he got out early), and have to pay 25 to 30 percent of his salary to Nintendo for the rest of his life, or until he has paid 10 million dollars in damages. Let's be real, guy is 54, he is going to pay for the rest of his life.
There was no reason to ruin a man's life over that. If possible, Nintendo would have demanded a public execution of Bowser.
So yeah, fuck Nintendo. I will never support Nintendo financially, and I know no one gives a shit because I am one person and barely buys Nintendo games because they are so expensive, but I have to keep my moral.
Dw I'm with you. Nintendo being an asshole company made it easier to just stick to two platforms, PS4 and recently for myself the PC. Now sony shitting the bed is also making it easy to stick to one platform now. I see all of this from the bright side of me not having to have all the current consoles and the financial burden that comes with that, just stick to whatever doesn't treat me like shit (Steam, GOG, the absolute kings who make emulators / FPGAs etc).
Also, the people who's sole defense against piracy is "but the mutli billion dollar coporations!!" or "it's against the law" (same law that is specifically made to favour said corporations at the expense of the customer) or my favourite one, "it's bad for the economy" are always funny to read. This is how I imagine them:
lock2k
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It's perfectly fine to say "fuck Nintendo" but I'm saying if you actually feel that way then do not support them in any way whatsoever. At least be consistent with what you say and mean as a man. They should lose you as a customer and a participant, meaning you do not partake in their products in any way. This includes playing their games for free on your PC unless you want to be rightfully labeled as a hypocrite
Otherwise, what are you really saying? You're just being an emotional bitch crying "fuck Nintendo" and yet, you still come back to them and you still want to play Nintendo games; have them be a part of your entertainment and life is what it really is. Boycott them completely if you truly detest them. Games, merchandise, discussion and virtually anything that has to do with them. Otherwise, you're all talk tbh
Otherwise, what are you really saying? You're just being an emotional bitch crying "fuck Nintendo" and yet, you still come back to them and you still want to play Nintendo games; have them be a part of your entertainment and life is what it really is. Boycott them completely if you truly detest them. Games, merchandise, discussion and virtually anything that has to do with them. Otherwise, you're all talk tbh
It's a human right to steal? I'd like to hear your argument on that one bro