Thread: Old media you're enjoying because most current media is crap
That's mainly the kicker for me. I didn't find the UK Office funny, I just found it sad. Probably as a result of having done a bit of time in one of those sorts of places for a while. Things that are more clearly comedies like Parks sit much better with me.
Yeah, sad is the perfect word I'd use to describe the UK Office. The characters give the impression that they're stuck in a deadend job/purgatory that they despise and things aren't made easier when their boss is acting like an incompetent boob. The sad part about it though is that the series hints that David Brent is actually good at his job, but the presence of a documentary film crew has compelled him to mug for the camera in an attempt to make himself look cool. So when he gets fired at the series' end he finally loses his cool facade and reduced to a pathetic mess.

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. I'd like to add a movie recommendation that caught on Netflix today:

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The Ghost and the Darkness (1996) - Very loosely based on the true story of the Tsavo Man-Eaters, where two lions killed and terrorized railway workers during the construction of the Tsavo bridge on the Kenya-Ugandan railway in 1898. It stars Val Kilmer as Colonel John Henry Patterson and Michael Douglas as noted hunter Charles Remington.

Despite it's reported troubled production, I think the film they came out with is a decent historical adventure with a lot of thrills and suspense. Nowadays though, this film would get thrashed for glorifying mighty Whitey raping the African Continent. Never mind the fact that the African natives are given prominent roles in the film aside from the two leads. Animal Right activists would also lose their shit at the sight of two lions being hunted, despite the fact that the lions are the villains of the film.
 
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Well, my post is going to be a bit different this time as it won't praising a piece of old media but rather critiquing it. The media in question is the 1982 fantasy flick, The Beastmaster.

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Released in 1982 just a few months after Conan the Barbarian, and stars Mark Singer as Dar and Tanya Roberts as Kiri. I barely remember watching this as a kid, but it recently was up on Amazon Prime so I got to watch it again. The only scene I recall was Dar being blinded by one of the villains and using the eyes of his panther Ruh to stab them. There are cool scenes like that and others in this flick.

The rest though? It's just boring.

I just don't get why this film became a cult classic among fantasy film fans. It's boring as hell and doesn't do anything exciting with it's setting and premise. Marc Singer and Tanya Roberts may look pretty, but they're dull as leads go. The only ones in the cast I think who are even interesting are Rip Torn as big bad Maax and veteran black actor John Amos as Seth.

And let's talk about Dar being the Beastmaster, his ability to talk and see through the eyes of his animal companions. We don't get to see enough of this ability in action and it feels like a waste. Had they included more scenes of Dar being a Beastmaster it would have helped to make him stand out from other fantasy heroes like Conan.

And speaking of Conan, while the Arnold flick does have it's flaws, it's still a great movie to watch and deserves it's place as a classic. Beastmaster on the other hand, feels like a waste of time and it's not even a terrible enough flick for a MST3k treatment. It's just meh cinema in my opinion.
 
Recently shot-gunned all of Star Trek Voyager (loved it) and Deep Space 9 (liked it).
Didn't care for Next Generation, Picard is dumb, Discovery looks neat and TOS is better watched as a series of highlight episodes.
 
Recently shot-gunned all of Star Trek Voyager (loved it) and Deep Space 9 (liked it).
Didn't care for Next Generation, Picard is dumb, Discovery looks neat and TOS is better watched as a series of highlight episodes.
I found in Voyager that half the cast was great and the other half just meh. I don't know if it was the writers or the actors but Paris, Belanna and Kes just seemed to be there while things were going on.
 
I found in Voyager that half the cast was great and the other half just meh. I don't know if it was the writers or the actors but Paris, Belanna and Kes just seemed to be there while things were going on.

Agreed. Janeway, however, is based as fuck. It was a funny moment when I realized she was actually the delta quadrants most notorious super villain. And a quick check on Google told me I wasn't the first person to observe this.

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Agreed. Janeway, however, is based as fuck. It was a funny moment when I realized she was actually the delta quadrants most notorious super villain. And a quick check on Google told me I wasn't the first person to observe this.

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She needs her coffee, stuff the prime directive.
 
Deliverance - they don't make them like this anymore. Such an engrossing film. Even just the bits with them fighting the river was intense. Burt Reynolds is amazing in this role. The other three guys played their roles very well too.

For those who have seen, was Louis right? Did their friend get shot? The film is intentionally unclear about this, so more wondering what people think.
 
I've been watching the X-Files, had to take a break from it though because the plot melted into my dream space. I had a stuck in prison with a demon dream, the demon looked a bit too much like the current mayor of Chicago for my liking, thought a step back was in order

Found an archive if all the old The Addams Family after it was pulled off the free streaming service I found it on (because they're rebooting it, now it has to cost money to watch) and have been happy to rerun those to no end without ads

Lately when I'm feeling a bit more wholesome, or I'm looking for some soul nutrition, I'll watch Little House on the Prairie or Highway to Heaven. Michael Landon has a really calming, genuine face and is really good at playing good people who make great role models.
 
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I've been rewatching this old fake reality show called Joe Schmo. You've probably never heard of it (aired in like 2003) and I don't think it even streams anywhere legitimately, but it's pretty damn brilliant. I wish they'd make a 4th season today.

It parodies really shitty reality shows while creating a "Truman Show" scenario. They find one real person (or multiple after the first season) and create an entire fake world with all actors playing the other contestants and host.

They fake every game, every result, every interaction that they can to completely fuck with the real person's brain and see how far they can push it. They have to keep changing the scripts daily and on the fly depending on things naturally playing out. And it has a lot of people in it that became bigger stars today who were unknown then, like Kristin Wiig.
 
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I've been rewatching this old fake reality show called Joe Schmo. You've probably never heard of it (aired in like 2003) and I don't think it even streams anywhere legitimately, but it's pretty damn brilliant. I wish they'd make a 4th season today.

It parodies really shitty reality shows while creating a "Truman Show" scenario. They find one real person (or multiple after the first season) and create an entire fake world with all actors playing the other contestants and host.

They fake every game, every result, every interaction that they can to completely fuck with the real person's brain and see how far they can push it. They have to keep changing the scripts daily and on the fly depending on things naturally playing out. And it has a lot of people in it that became bigger stars today who were unknown then, like Kristin Wiig.

I watched the first season of that while it was actually running, hahah. Neat premise. I heard they made a second season but not a third.
 
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If I feel like watching a show than I always grab my all time favorite classics: Fairy Tail, Spartacus Blood and Sand, Rising of the Shield Hero, Ghost in the Shell SAC, Star Trek TNG and DS9, Daria, Rurouni Kenshin, Goblin Slayer and maybe few others.

Recently I fell in love with American 60s and 70s war movies. I watched A Bridge Too Far, Tora Tora Tora and Patton and all were incredible. I ordered a whole collection of these today 🙂
 
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Deliverance - they don't make them like this anymore. Such an engrossing film. Even just the bits with them fighting the river was intense. Burt Reynolds is amazing in this role. The other three guys played their roles very well too.

For those who have seen, was Louis right? Did their friend get shot? The film is intentionally unclear about this, so more wondering what people think.
I've never seen Deliverance, though I hear it's a great film. And speaking of it's director, John Boorman. He directed quite possibly the best film based on the Arthurian myths that I've ever seen.

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Excalibur (1981) - Unlike most recent movies involving King Arthur, Boorman's movie makes no claims of being a historical film. This is a straight up fantasy film with gorgeous imagery, a memorable score and some great performances. The standout is Nichol Williamson as Merlin, who steals the movie. The last few minutes of the film are some the best filmed sequences I've seen in a movie.

My dad loves this movie, and it's always been a favorite of mine as well. To date no movie based on King Arthur has ever come close to matching this.

And while we're on the subject of fantasy films, I recently caught an often overlooked gem on Amazon.

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Beowulf and Grendel (2005) - Not exactly old since it only came out in the last decade, but I remember watching it before and really liked it. It's way better than the Beowulf CG movie that came out in 2007 IMO. Starring a pre 300 fame Gerard Butler as Beowulf, along with a host of other known actors (Stellan Skarsgard, Eddie Marsan, Tony Curran, Rory McCann and others). The real standout though is Ingvar Sigurðsson as Grendel, who in this film is not a fantastical troll but rather implied to be Neanderthal man. Siggurdson, despite mostly speaking in grunts and howls, manages to imbue Grendel with humanity and makes him a sympathetic villain despite the death and destruction he causes.

This film is more of a realistic take to the Beowulf legend rather than a straight retelling. But while it doesn't have much in the way of magic, the violence that was present in the poem is still pretty much present here and quite gruesome. It's also has some gorgeous scenery courtesy of the Icelandic vistas where it was filmed.

A pretty cool movie. You all should check it out.
 
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I watched the first season of that while it was actually running, hahah. Neat premise. I heard they made a second season but not a third.
The third was many years later and it was a parody of dog the bounty hunter and other bounty hunting reality shows. It gets very ridiculous and the guy they found just buys into everything haha
 
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Beowulf and Grendel (2005) - Not exactly old since it only came out in the last decade, but I remember watching it before and really liked it. It's way better than the Beowulf CG movie that came out in 2007 IMO. Starring a pre 300 fame Gerard Butler as Beowulf, along with a host of other known actors (Stellan Skarsgard, Eddie Marsan, Tony Curran, Rory McCann and others). The real standout though is Ingvar Sigurðsson as Grendel, who in this film is not a fantastical troll but rather implied to be Neanderthal man. Siggurdson, despite mostly speaking in grunts and howls, manages to imbue Grendel with humanity and makes him a sympathetic villain despite the death and destruction he causes.

This film is more of a realistic take to the Beowulf legend rather than a straight retelling. But while it doesn't have much in the way of magic, the violence that was present in the poem is still pretty much present here and quite gruesome. It's also has some gorgeous scenery courtesy of the Icelandic vistas where it was filmed.

A pretty cool movie. You all should check it out.
Yeah this is the best Beowulf. A bit of hidden gem. Great locations and cinematography. I think every scene is very windy.
 
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It's good to know that the d-pad crew are on the level. I've been going back to old TV series as well for the exact same reasons. I'm currently enjoying X-Files but I've also started watching Chuck again.

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Good times. It's just further highlighted to me that modern media really has taken a turn for the worst and has become progressively (heh) insufferable to watch.
 
I've been watching the X-Files, had to take a break from it though because the plot melted into my dream space. I had a stuck in prison with a demon dream, the demon looked a bit too much like the current mayor of Chicago for my liking, thought a step back was in order

I rewatched the whole of The X Files about a year ago (might be 2 years?) and I have to say they still hold up really well. It's one of my favourite TV series of all time.
 
Recently installed some new overhead speakers so I have been revisiting my 4k collection with a much better Atmos experience.

Something I noticed is most modern movies I see I have zero desire to own. Newest movie in my collection I believe is Rocket man.

Might be creed II but you could argue that's a sequel of a very old IP.

Most modern shows I tend to bounce of on the Netflix's and HBOs. Haven't found a new show I really like in a few years now. Exception being Disney's stuff but they tend to be shorter seasons which I think really helps.
 
My friend and I used to love that movie and watched it so many times when I slept over...
 
Can't believe this movie's now 21 years old. How time passes.

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Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust (2000) - While not the first anime adaptation of Hideyuki Kikuchi's novel series about the titular vampire hunter (that would be the 1985 OAV film), this one has the benefit of Yoshiaki Kawajiri (Ninja Scroll, Wicked City) as a director. The film is filled to the brim with Kawajiri's fantastic visuals, fluid animation, intense fight scenes and excellent character designs.

I personally thought this movie was fantastic since I first saw it years ago. D as a character and his world are perfect for a director of Kawajiri's sensibilities. I wish he'd made more anime films in this universe rather than that mediocre Highlander movie he did instead.

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Can't believe this movie's now 21 years old. How time passes.

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Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust (2000) - While not the first anime adaptation of Hideyuki Kikuchi's novel series about the titular vampire hunter (that would be the 1985 OAV film), this one has the benefit of Yoshiaki Kawajiri (Ninja Scroll, Wicked City) as a director. The film is filled to the brim with Kawajiri's fantastic visuals, fluid animation, intense fight scenes and excellent character designs.

I personally thought this movie was fantastic since I first saw it years ago. D as a character and his world are perfect for a director of Kawajiri's sensibilities. I wish he'd made more anime films in this universe rather than that mediocre Highlander movie he did instead.

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Rewatched this with my partner recently. He had never seen it before and it's still damn beautiful.
Aside, it was surprisingly hard to find a digital copy.
 
Recently shot-gunned all of Star Trek Voyager (loved it) and Deep Space 9 (liked it).
Didn't care for Next Generation, Picard is dumb, Discovery looks neat and TOS is better watched as a series of highlight episodes.
I've been watching through DS9 lately. Watched Enterprise before this. Both are great. Planning on watching Voyager next as I remember watching it with my Dad in its first run.

I tried watching the first few episodes of discovery, but I generally felt that it had absolutely no respect for the franchise as a whole. It's changes to established lore just felt dumb to me. Does it get any better?
 
I tried watching the first few episodes of discovery, but I generally felt that it had absolutely no respect for the franchise as a whole. It's changes to established lore just felt dumb to me. Does it get any better?

I lost interest after one episode, I don't know if it gets better. But reviews heavily imply it doesn't.
 
I've been watching through DS9 lately. Watched Enterprise before this. Both are great. Planning on watching Voyager next as I remember watching it with my Dad in its first run.

I tried watching the first few episodes of discovery, but I generally felt that it had absolutely no respect for the franchise as a whole. It's changes to established lore just felt dumb to me. Does it get any better?

This is 2021, nothing will ever get better.
 
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I lost interest after one episode, I don't know if it gets better. But reviews heavily imply it doesn't.
That's what I figured. When I realized that the aliens in episode 1 were supposed to be Klingons, I nearly shut it off right there.
 
Another entry in the Old Media that still rocks. This time from Ridley Scott (Alien, Blade Runner, Legend, Gladiator, The Martian):

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The Duellists (1977) - Ridley Scott's first feature length film, based on the short story The Duel by Joseph Conrad. The film covers the lives of two cavalry officers (played by Keith Carradine and Harvey Keitel) in Napoleon's army and their ongoing duel that lasts nearly 16 years.

Aside from brutal and realistic swordplay and the solid performances by both Carradine and Keitel, the film boasts fantastic visuals that Ridley Scott would become known for throughout his career. The fact that he made this movie with a budget of under $1 million is an impressive feat, and won him a Beast Film Debut award at the 1977 Cannes Film Festival. Highly recommended if you're into historical war movies and a fan of Scott.
 
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Another entry in the media of yesteryear that kicks ass.

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The Three Musketeers/The Four Musketeers (1973-1974) - Quite possibly the best film adaptation of the classic Alexandre Dumas novel. Directed by Richard Lester (A Hard Day's Night, Superman 2) and boasting an all-star cast featuring Michael York, Racquel Welch, Oliver Reed, Richard Chamberlain, Faye Dunaway, Christopher Lee, Charlton Heston and many others. It features some gritty and realistic swordfights (in contrast to the fancy fencing of previous adaptations) coupled with some hilarious slapstick comedy.

IMO, no adaptation of the novel has touched these two movies in terms of quality. It follows the plot of the book pretty closely despite some deviations, and the excellent screenplay by George Mcdonald Frasier (The Flashman Papers) is not afraid to portray the titular Musketeers as a bunch of womanizing morally grey antiheroes who nonetheless are willing to fight for their country.
 
She needs her coffee, stuff the prime directive.

As it turns out, what she really needed was to be turned into an immortal hologram and sent back into the delta quadrant with a ship at least as armed as Voyager was.

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Oh, and we'll call her Emergency Training Hologram.
Prodigy is very likely going to be crap, but if we get scenes where they encounter peoples Voyager ran into and then they see Janeway 9000 only to freak the fuck out, it'll be worth slogging through.
 
Have you ever heard of Sturgeon's Law? Noted scifi writer Theodore Sturgeon stated this in his defense of science fiction: "90 percent of science fiction is indeed crap, but then again 90 percent of everything is crap."

It seems that old adage is proving more true nowadays, what with entertainment media being infected by woke SJW content now more than ever. That's not to say there aren't any good media out there right now, but you'd have to sift through a proverbial pile of trash to find it.

Why not instead, enjoy some old media from yesteryear that has stood the test of time? And is certainly to provide more entertainment than what is on offer today. For me, of late I've been enjoying:

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The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes (TV series 1984-1994) - There've been a ton of actors who've played Sherlock Holmes. But none of them for me have ever matched Jeremy Brett's portrayal of the character in the ITV Granada adaptation of the original Arthur Conan Doyle stories. Alongside Brett is the equally excellent David Burke as Watson, though Burke would leave the series after season 2 and be replaced by Edward Hardwicke from season 3 onwards.

Not to say that any recent Sherlock Holmes media is crap. The two films starring Robert Downey Jr. were enjoyable and CBS' Elementary was a consistent weekly delight (BBC's Sherlock sucks balls though). But none of them can hold a candle to the Granada series for me, which hasn't dated one bit and is still enjoyable to watch today.

So what old media are you all enjoying in these weird times?

Jeremy Brett portrayal of Holmes is legendary.

Do you have a favourite episode? Personally, I loved the Blue Carbuncle and Hound of the Baskervilles.


I have been watching The Professionals lately (most episodes on YouTube). A British crime-action series from the late 1970s.

Good plots, cold war politics, terrorism, Gordan Jackson and Ford Capris and Ford Escort RS2000s what's there not to like?

Great intro too

 
Jeremy Brett portrayal of Holmes is legendary.

Do you have a favourite episode? Personally, I loved the Blue Carbuncle and Hound of the Baskervilles.
Believe it or not, the pilot episode adaptation of A Scandal in Bohemia was pretty much perfect and definitely one of my faves. Others would be The Norwood Builder and The Musgrave Ritual, though there are a lot of episodes I really like.

I have been watching The Professionals lately (most episodes on YouTube). A British crime-action series from the late 1970s.

Good plots, cold war politics, terrorism, Gordan Jackson and Ford Capris and Ford Escort RS2000s what's there not to like?

Great intro too


I remember this show being on tv as a kid. Wonder if it still holds up today. My dad has dvds so maybe I'll give it a go one day.
 
Just wanted to add that I've been enjoying another classic program from the oh-so sexist era of the 1970s.

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Yeah yeah. I know it ain't exactly highbrow tv and it's pretty formulaic and kind of stupid at times. But who cares? I'm all about watching hot women dance around the screen in sexy dresses and bikinis. Especially Cheryl Ladd.




Unf. She was so FINE.
 
Deliverance - they don't make them like this anymore. Such an engrossing film. Even just the bits with them fighting the river was intense. Burt Reynolds is amazing in this role. The other three guys played their roles very well too.

For those who have seen, was Louis right? Did their friend get shot? The film is intentionally unclear about this, so more wondering what people think.

Check out ravenous
 
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Nice to see Hunt for Red October and Ghost and the Darkness. Excellent, excellent movies.

Here's one I've been wanting to rewatch, about a Islamic court poet in exile who is recruited into joining a band of vikings to battle a unknown evil terrorising a northern kingdom.

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Funnily enough, this movie (which was based on Michael Crichton's Eaters of the Dead) is party based on the Beowulf legend. And I mentioned above that Beowulf and Grendel is another old movie that I liked.