It is really stupid because dude we don't even have any games that heavily take advantage of ps5/xbx yet. None.
The baseline is stilling going to be the XSS.
Base PS4 handled games pretty well the entire gen and does well even to this day (unlike the Xbox One that struggled from the start and later was pretty much forgotten by devs and getting many games in a sorry state).
Probably the generation that has the most respectable hardware relative to PC. You just need to let go of comparing console to GPUs that are about as expensive (or drastically more expensive) than the console by themselves.
What I mean is (and that's true about PS4 holding up at times where base Xbox one really suffered) is that before PS4 pro, it was rare to see games under native 1080p but after pro launched it was far more common heck cod went to like 800p on bo4 and also devs started worrying less about keeping frame rates consistent, so you saw more dips on base PS4 compared to before. And the games didn't really have more detail than before, not so much that it justifies these performance decreases.
I don't have an issue with the hardware. The software numbers are fucking abysmal, especially if you bought in expecting experiences that couldn't be had on last Gen hardware. They've gimped the shit out of them because they can't make any money on software.
You always had some 900p games even early in the gen like BF. The vast majority of PS4 games are still 1080p on base PS4 (Horizon Forbidden West is a good example of that).
I have a Pro and an original and never Saw a huge difference between the two. I wouldn't have even bought the Pro but I have a Sony credit card and had enough points built up that I got it for free.
The PS4 Pro sucked to be honest, mostly just bad execution from Sony.
Agreed but they also got retarded and thought hey should start doing 7-10 year generations instead of the long established 5 year cycle. If Sony had stuck with the 5 year cycle, they would have had a better chance at getting a base built up before Covid hit, rather than launching right dead in the middle of it.
Dude, look at how long the crossgen period lasts, if we had 5 year gens you would hardly ever get a game that isn't crossgen one way or the other.
Why would they drop the price if it was still selling? There was a PS4 with Spider-Man bundled for $199, if that wasn't tempting enough to someone then they were never going to buy it anyway in the first place. Sony mistake was that they stopped producing the PS4 too soon and then had a hard time keeping up with the stock of PS5s. We can even tell this by how the Series X is more popular than the Series S despite being much more expensive, price isn't everything.
No, actually 5 year gens were the accepted standard. Look back, you might get an occasional big game on the old system (God of War II came out on PS2 after the PS3 was in full swing, for example) but by and large if there was new hardware out, titles began migrating to it and there were very few cross Gen games. All that bullshit started last Gen.
I'm sure they looked better but unless I had them both hooked up and running side by side the differences were pretty minimal IMO. I played Spidey on a base PS4 just because it was hooked to a TV in a more comfortable spot and i never felt like I was missing much. When my little brother came over he played on the Pro in the family room and I honestly didn't see a huge difference, although I will admit I've never been into frame counting or pausing to look hard for differences.
Seems like you just don't understand why there are crossgen games. Publishers want their games to reach as many people as possible and they don't care about pushing you into buying a new console.
I'm in the same boat , kind of lost all desire to get a next gen console especially after seeing what the current PS5 looks like and how huge it is . Some like it but I don't , not really interested in Xbox because my PC/Steam Deck covers most of that but the one thing I would love to see is a more compact Slim PS5 that's backwards compatible with PS4 games . The rumored separate disc drive would help reduce cost and weight
BF was the only one, and then watchdogs and ac unity but they were the same resolution on Xbox one due to a stupid parity clause they had set up.
A PS5 Slim is 100% happening next year. The insides of the PS5 they are selling right now have already been greatly reduced.I'm in the same boat , kind of lost all desire to get a next gen console especially after seeing what the current PS5 looks like and how huge it is . Some like it but I don't , not really interested in Xbox because my PC/Steam Deck covers most of that but the one thing I would love to see is a more compact Slim PS5 that's backwards compatible with PS4 games . The rumored separate disc drive would help reduce cost and weight
New PS5 model with external disc drive reportedly in the works
The modular disc drive will reportedly be sold separately as wellwww.gamesradar.com
Seems like you don't understand that Sony didn't need crossgen games until they started behaving retardedly. History speaks louder than rhetoric; crossgen wasn't even a thing until like 5 minutes ago.
Maybe you don't get what I'm saying? It's like on PC, with for example Nvidia Kepler vs the newer Maxwell cards, it's not JUST Maxwell being better but also they don't bother with drivers on the older cards anymore.
Yet is sells pretty much all units that they can produce (not to mention that they also have way more nextgen only games than their direct competitor anyway). I also think that crossgen sucks and I'm sad that GoW Ragnarok is crossgen but from a business perspective there was no reason not to make every game crossgen and just release the bare minimun current gen only games. You can even see that Sony chose games from smaller IPs to be nextgen only while their big sellers were all crossgen.
Selling all the units you produce is a small victory when you are doing so because you can't make as many as you did in prior generations. With the PS5 I kinda get it; hey are doing it partly because market forces prevent them from selling enough hardware to make a viable standalone PS5 base, but they've also played a direct role in not getting units into customers' hands by allowing their retail channels to be scalper friendly.
Most games take more than 5 years to be developed at this point, 5 year gens wouldn't work at all and we would end up with crossgen games spanning 3 gens.
True to a point, but dev costs have gone up exponentially every generation and Sony managed it just fine. I don't think the old model went bad overnight, I think Sony has made some really bad choices with regard to its market and model. They've essentially made the case for why people DON'T need a PS5, and that's not even getting into the ridiculous idea of porting all their big titles to PC a year or so later.
