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DLSS and frame generation are legit game changers. Imagine what the next era of AI will bring. Exciting times indeed
Thread: Jensen Huang (Nvidia CEO): "We can't do computer graphics anymore without artificial intelligence"
DLSS and frame generation are legit game changers. Imagine what the next era of AI will bring. Exciting times indeed
Epic Nemesis
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So when am I getting rid of my 3070 and upgrading my monitor to 4k
CEO of company at the pinnacle of the AI bubble says we need AI to continue to do something.
I am shocked.
I am shocked.
Exactly, I mean this is essentially AI bubble investor bro bait. Having said that DLSS Upscaling is a genuinely cool product and a good use case of AI in graphics so will be interesting to see where they go from here.
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I was shocked when he said not a single programmer at the company produces code from scratch on their own. They use some form of AI to write some code. Very interesting.
I'm not really surprised, makes sense that they leverage all the tools in house.
It always depends on the use case, but AI is incredibly useful for coding. Devs that I worked with could get like 70% of the code quickly with AI, which is extremely valuable especially for proof of concept evaluations, just trying out different approaches and ideas.
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There's an AI bubble because its being hyped as a solution to everything, but for very specific tasks and applications it will be a much better way to do things with rendering being one of them.
AI based rendering/upscaling is definitely the future. It's far more efficient and scalable. How much silicon without DLSS would have to spend to run path traced cyberpunk like a single 4090 can using DLSS? And at this point in time, DLSS is as worse as it will ever be.
AI based rendering/upscaling is definitely the future. It's far more efficient and scalable. How much silicon without DLSS would have to spend to run path traced cyberpunk like a single 4090 can using DLSS? And at this point in time, DLSS is as worse as it will ever be.
Pagusas
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Honestly, while I'm no where near a coder, I still have to dabble in Java and Adobe Extended Script, and AI has completely changed all my workflows and timetables. It's so incredibly easy now to do what I want without having to spend hours researching the problem. I can only imagine how much of a time saver and stress saver it is for real coders.
DonDonDonPata
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Hmm. Maybe.
I remember when companies said they couldn't do big AAA without DLC and monetization through loot boxes
I remember when companies said they couldn't do big AAA without DLC and monetization through loot boxes
Optimus
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Problem for the detractors is that Jenson Huang isn't prone to bullshit. He's been right a lot. He's going to be right about coding and most likely computer graphics.
People wanting a real life holodeck should be all in on AI generated graphics. The power of inference isn't magic but it is amazing. The future is looking very bright. One of the things I can't wait for is the replacement of procedurally generated gobbledy gook for AI-designed structures and levels where it might actually make sense instead of having a randomly generated village falling into a rift that none of the villagers seem to notice... lol
People wanting a real life holodeck should be all in on AI generated graphics. The power of inference isn't magic but it is amazing. The future is looking very bright. One of the things I can't wait for is the replacement of procedurally generated gobbledy gook for AI-designed structures and levels where it might actually make sense instead of having a randomly generated village falling into a rift that none of the villagers seem to notice... lol
DenchDeckard
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Looking forward to seeing what they do with 50 series!
Impress me and I'm day one for a 5090!
Impress me and I'm day one for a 5090!
Optimus
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I'm not expecting much from the 50 series. Everything I'm hearing sounds like massive power consumption for diminishing returns of like 20% performance gain. I don't follow it terribly closely but it doesn't sound like a leap for what the total cost will inevitably be.
QuantumZebra
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Makes sense to me. AI is replacing entire jobs. The programming field just got way more competitive overnight.
Optimus
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Yep. It's kind of scary, because this was already not an easy field for people to enter, so there's rarely been a time when there weren't a bunch of jobs available. Now suddenly it's like "Nope. We're gonna have the software write the code now."
I've milked this thing for many years, and I'm so thankful for my technical expertise and adaptability. It's just that I didn't build a career so I could run for my damn life all the way into retirement... MEH!
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I haven't used it yet and I'm a coder on UE. Of course, I haven't had to make entire pipelines from scratch either.
I wonder if this new paradigm shift will change the way interviews are conducted in the tech industry.
Optimus
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Not only will it change them, but AI is going to be entering the interviews and potentially providing employers with a lot of additional information.
But I find myself in a similar boat as you where AI really hasn't proven terribly useful for me. There's so much nuance to the software tools I've built that attempting to drop AI into these situations could cause a lot more issue than simply following the team's patterns and shipping the products as constructed. Basically there's not enough time to upset the basket.
You both need to be very detailed at what you tell AI you want to do AND AI needs to have enough context for what you're setting out to do. It makes perfect sense to me that less skilled coders would gain the most from a very general coding AI. I get a lot more from asking AI questions and taking snippets of code that I can mangle for my uses.
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That's the main use I can see. Making the start of basic data structures that I can then expand on in a class. All the other expertise still has to come from me. AI isn't "aware" of Unreal to the point where it can change a BP the way I want it to be graphed out as. I still have about 5 more yrs to go before I feel like I'll be perfectly replaced by AI.
Optimus
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That's the main use I can see. Making the start of basic data structures that I can then expand on in a class. All the other expertise still has to come from me. AI isn't "aware" of Unreal to the point where it can change a BP the way I want it to be graphed out as. I still have about 5 more yrs to go before I feel like I'll be perfectly replaced by AI.
Well, you're more specialized than the bulk of software developers, which sadly includes web developers and full stack developers.
For now, at least, AI still needs you to explain how you want it to do the things if you hope to get anything useful out of it.
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This is happening across the tech industry at the moment, especially in smaller orgs which might be more agile. AI isn't some magical bullet which does everything, it's still sanity checked but it's increasingly being used as a reference or to help solidify a concept into something tangible quickly. It's like having an assistant that you can offload stuff to, they might not be the most experienced or best in the world but if they can help reduce more mundane stuff and save you 10% of your time even after checking everything they do then at the end of the day it's 10% of your time back to do other stuff.
He is full of total shit here. My engineering group has been trying to get (many) AI platforms to assist in writing code and it fails so fucking hard on anything besides simple things. The only way he isnt being dishonest if he means they use AI to set up some basic structure.
The craft of programming is not to make something do a thing, its to make it do that thing efficiently and be able to append and scale as needed. Anyone who has ever reviewed a coding test understands this all to well.
Dacon
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I have a friend whose company regularly works with Darpa, and he's been calling bullshit on pretty much 99 percent of AI models and their utility for a while now. He's been predicting the AI bubble would burst since early last year.
It's just going to be a slightly better 4090, just like with the last few generations.
The 4090 was a total outlier though, way more capable and a huge performance increase for absurd costs.
Yeah I don't think we'll see that much more raw performance, but Nvidia will pack it with AI stuff to leverage the capabilities. I expect even more effective image reconstruction that has improved ray reconstruction because the current version sucks. Agree that there likely won't be a huge jump, especially after AMD said they won't target the high end.
Dacon
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I have no faith, esp with Nvidia capitalizing on all this other shit, and AMD putting no pressure on them to overperform.
BlackDow
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DLSS and frame generation are legit game changers. Imagine what the next era of AI will bring. Exciting times indeed
DLSS in switch and Switch 2?
But in a more serious note. Have they worked out how they going to help those who lose work to AI? Yeah do Uber. But if self driving cars are coming?
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