Thread: Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet - Reveal Trailer (new Naughty Dog game, featuring the Pet Shop Boys)
Even the title is dumb. Heretic Prophet? Those two are kinda mutually exclusive aren't they? It's like a movie called The Faithful Adulterer.

Given how the woke are pretty much just IRL Slaanesh worshippers, I'd actually say it's bang on the money.

I mean stick some power armour on her and she'd fit right in with the Word Bearers.

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Guardians of the Galaxy has been a disaster for all of modern Sci-fi.

Someone please take the 80s retro futurism stuff out back and put a bullet in it.

I don't know if I'd call it "retro futurism"… feels like tacked on fan service. I think of retro futurism as presenting the future as it was imagined in the past.

Actual 80s retro-futurism would be dope! Who doesn't want to see a game like this?

 
I mean the girl boss trope is tiring right now. We've had tonnes of games where they've either done the girl boss right and wrong.

And I have no problem with ND doing a new IP. The character maybe offputting physically but who knows maybe they add depth and authenticity to this bald chick.


Or you just gonna have another girl boss game that does it absolutely wrong like ForSpoken, Star Wars Outlaws etc
 
I mean the girl boss trope is tiring right now. We've had tonnes of games where they've either done the girl boss right and wrong.

And I have no problem with ND doing a new IP. The character maybe offputting physically but who knows maybe they add depth and authenticity to this bald chick.


Or you just gonna have another girl boss game that does it absolutely wrong like ForSpoken, Star Wars Outlaws etc

Even rewatching The Force Awokens has become difficult because it's so in your face, all of it.
 
I mean the girl boss trope is tiring right now. We've had tonnes of games where they've either done the girl boss right and wrong.

And I have no problem with ND doing a new IP. The character maybe offputting physically but who knows maybe they add depth and authenticity to this bald chick.


Or you just gonna have another girl boss game that does it absolutely wrong like ForSpoken, Star Wars Outlaws etc

I can't think of a modern game or movie that I can say did the girl boss right though. I just don't think it can be done by the people making these things nowadays.
 
I can't think of a modern game or movie that I can say did the girl boss right though. I just don't think it can be done by the people making these things nowadays.

Sesuna, Returnal, StarCraft (Kerrigan), Silent Hill, Resident Evil (newer versions), Alien Isolation etc etc

What makes girl bosses so of putting are that they aren't flawed and their decision making makes them completely selfish. Which is a common characteristic

I can give a good example of this. In media. Take Star Trek discovery (tv series I know) and compare it to Ellie in the last of us 2

Both completely selfish, both completely irrational, both end up getting their close ones killed or hurt, both show no growth in character or moral development.

You end up rooting for the bad guy to kill the girl boss
 
I can't think of a modern game or movie that I can say did the girl boss right though. I just don't think it can be done by the people making these things nowadays.

The entire concept is unnatural. Even the old examples the woke cling to of 'strong female characters', like Ellen Ripley or Sarah Connor had them behaving in feminine manners, very motherly and protective.

Girlbosses are just designing a woman and writing an obnoxiously stereotypical jock like guy, and they don't even make them look like women anymore.

The trope is and always will be insufferable. There's no good version of it.
 
I don't know if I'd call it "retro futurism"… feels like tacked on fan service. I think of retro futurism as presenting the future as it was imagined in the past.

Actual 80s retro-futurism would be dope! Who doesn't want to see a game like this?



Yeah, you're right. Retro Futurism is its own thing.

I meant the more kitschy, 80s aesthetics that Guardians and its ilk draw inspiration from, stuff like music or clothing designs. I'm sick of it, give me 90s pastels and shellsuit tracksuit designs!!
 
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Guardians of the Galaxy has been a disaster for all of modern Sci-fi.

Someone please take the 80s retro futurism stuff out back and put a bullet in it.

I liked GoTG. I think it worked within itself, and the characters were entertaining and had a natural discordant rapport. I'm still pissed that Square managed to put zero effort into marketing the last game, which was genuinely quite good fun and thus robbed us of the potential for a sequel. However, I think it was a bit of lightning in a bottle, thus not easily to lift from, which is where I think people have gone wrong.
 
I liked GoTG. I think it worked within itself, and the characters were entertaining and had a natural discordant rapport. I'm still pissed that Square managed to put zero effort into marketing the last game, which was genuinely quite good fun and thus robbed us of the potential for a sequel. However, I think it was a bit of lightning in a bottle, thus not easily to lift from, which is where I think people have gone wrong.

Yeah, I think the first movie is great. One of the MCU's strongest, I just hate how much its influence has crept into everything.

The Square game was genuinely such a surprise, I got it free on Epic Games Store and it really was great.
 
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Sesuna, Returnal, StarCraft (Kerrigan), Silent Hill, Resident Evil (newer versions), Alien Isolation etc etc

What makes girl bosses so of putting are that they aren't flawed and their decision making makes them completely selfish. Which is a common characteristic

I can give a good example of this. In media. Take Star Trek discovery (tv series I know) and compare it to Ellie in the last of us 2

Both completely selfish, both completely irrational, both end up getting their close ones killed or hurt, both show no growth in character or moral development.

You end up rooting for the bad guy to kill the girl boss

Didn't play returnal and not sure who sesuna is but silent hill with female protag was a solid 20 years ago and alien isolation is pretty long in the tooth now as well, I'm thinking more this gen and maybe last.

Female protag is different from girl boss though like you said. The girl boss is infallible and thus unrelatable.



Ah. I see the hair would not have helped after all.
 
Games are mainly for a male audience. Devs and the industry can try and put their heads in the sand and pretend the audience is female dominate but it's not. And males want power fantasies.
But since the woke took over and decided toxic masculinity is bad games have now switched to feminist power fantasies.

Ya in the 90s and 2000s there were female protagonist but that was because sex sells. It was the Lara Croft effect. Have a sexy female. Look at Joanna Dark with her sexy red hair and skin tight costume.

But modern devs want men to play as ugly man looking woman because masculinity bad and sexy bad.
 
I agree here. The main character is very unappealing to me but it's space and I love outspace in RL. Of course I'll give it a try but I agree with others that it looks cringe.

I'm very curious about the advancements in their engine. It'll be their first real current gen game. I don't think they actually added some RTGI.... Or did they?
 
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It is not even a representation issue. You COULD make this character based with the right writing. For me it is that they often make their characters so annoying to the point of being a turn off.

Exactly. They do it on purpose. It's easy to make these characters seem human and relatable. Have her look at a photo where she had long beautiful hair and was wearing makeup and is standing next to a man and child. Then have her look sadly into the mirror while shaving her head because she HAS to. That would give us SOMETHING relatable. Not this typical girl boss attitude.

Again, these companies are still catering to the 5 percent. Who the FUCK does this appeal to?
 
Exactly. They do it on purpose. It's easy to make these characters seem human and relatable. Have her look at a photo where she had long beautiful hair and was wearing makeup and is standing next to a man and child. Then have her look sadly into the mirror while shaving her head because she HAS to. That would give us SOMETHING relatable. Not this typical girl boss attitude.

Again, these companies are still catering to the 5 percent. Who the FUCK does this appeal to?

The woke 'tards making these games.
 
I'm very curious about the advancements in their engine. It'll be their first real current gen game. I don't think they actually added some RTGI.... Or did they?
PS5/XSX are very limited in bandwidth for implementing anything above 1 RT feature. I don't expect ND to somehow magically pull a rabbit out of their hat. The hardware just isn't there -- even for the 4090 (without frame generation).

Expect the same milestones as Insomniac (i.e. ray-traced reflections).

Also keep in mind that none of the Sony studios have implemented anything more than that (i.e. RTGI). Those were 3rd party studios.
 
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Wait a god dang minute is her name Jordan A Mun ?
Like the female character has a man's first name and then literally called a Man ? Lol cmon now son



This is a parody of IGN right ? Her name can't be Jordan A Man can it ?

And why didn't they use intergalactic by the beastie boys instead of pet shop boys missed opportunity .

Man if she really is called Jordan is A Man I'm dying here.


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Yep.
 
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PS5/XSX are very limited in bandwidth for implementing anything above 1 RT feature. I don't expect ND to somehow magically pull a rabbit out of their hat. The hardware just isn't there -- even for the 4090 (without frame generation).

Expect the same milestones as Insomniac (i.e. ray-traced reflections).

Also keep in mind that none of the Sony studios have implemented anything more than that (i.e. RTGI). Those were 3rd party studios.

Yeah, sounds about right. And the game will likely feature static lighting conditions, won't be a dynamic open world with day and night changes.
 
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They better pray it's not another 5 year in development failure, though it's ND so it'll sell well.

Nah, it won't sell this time and I was one of the people who was saying TLOU2 wouldn't flop despite it was clearly a shit show. The difference here is this is a new IP, they can't trick the casual gamer like they did last time. The game is going to look unappealing to the casual gamer on PS5 and the phrase "Naughty Dog" means nothing to them. They just play the games, they don't know who is making them. Sony could try to use "from the makers of TLOU and Uncharted" but your casual gamer who picked up tlou2 and hated it isn't going to be fooled. Plus we already have seen the software adoption rates for the PS5, the user base isn't buying games.

I'm sure it will sell a few million copies, but it won't meet budget/sales goals and its going to be another multi-million dollar flop for Sony. You have to wonder how many more of these flops Sony can take before the PS brand is in trouble.
 
WTf Naughty Dog?!?

What survey did you run to think your target demographic wants to be some ugly diminutive bald bitch?

This looks like some hot booty juice squirts.


I don't think these people get it. If every game is a female protagonist, they are just inverting the paradigm they called bigoted…. how do they not see this? Oh yea, they totally do and are intentionally bigoted monsters working out of spite.