Thread: Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga | May 24, 2024
CGI was cool back in the day because we never saw the scale it permitted and the best we had was blocky PS1 graphics.

When you are comparing FF7 cut scene to the Phantom Menace or LOTR you were impressed.

Now your PS5 heck your switch produces cut scenes as good as CGI. If I want some big battle with computer graphics why not just play a videogame where it's at least interactive l

Not to mention those CGI studios avoid physics engines, possibly due to some guild rules. Don't know about Furiosa but in Fast and Furious and Marvel movies car crashes are done by hand and instantly recognizable as fake to anybody who played a GTA game.
 
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Well this now probably makes all the decision makers look retarded. Release the film that few want before making the film people want… brilliant. Now the one people want isn't gonna happen. I personally didn't like Fury, but I know I'm in the minority there.

 
Well this now probably makes all the decision makers look retarded. Release the film that few want before making the film people want… brilliant. Now the one people want isn't gonna happen. I personally didn't like Fury, but I know I'm in the minority there.

Disappointing but no surprise there. Any chance of a Furiosa spin-off doing well would have required a pre-covid era release and even then I'm sure it would have done less than Fury Road, which wasn't considered a major box office success to begin with.

In a way I kinda hope he still somehow shits out one last Max movie but then maybe it might be wiser to just be content with what we have.
 
Well this now probably makes all the decision makers look retarded. Release the film that few want before making the film people want… brilliant. Now the one people want isn't gonna happen. I personally didn't like Fury, but I know I'm in the minority there.


Lol.

Here is a movie the fans never wanted. Since it failed we won't make the movie fans wanted which would also have been a box office success.

This is battered wife syndrome being pushed by hollywood. Fuck them.
 
The mortal sin of the movie is overuse of CGI. I have the impression that the only vehicle-base stunt sequence in the whole film that was done like in Fury Road, that is for real, with complementary CGI for the background and other secondary details, is the attack on the war rig. Everything other action sequence, it feels like, was done with CGI vehicles.



CGI action bores me, I don't even understand what the point of it is. Like when the war rig pushes that van into the hole in the middle of the Bullet Farm, and it explodes. What am I looking at? Why is it supposed to be thrilling? What's the point if it's just like a video game, if no vehicle was actually driven, if no risk was actually taken, if no driving expertise was actually required, if no set was actually built? What am I supposed to admire?

What did you admire during the CGI crashes of Fury Road, or action scenes shot on and around static vehicles that were CGId to move? Nothing in Furiosa looks as bad as the war rig pushing Nux's car, the Looney Tunes ragdoll of Max or the wretched compositing of the Citadel and canyon exteriors.

How much of the scene is complementary CGI if the ground, moving wheels, background landscape and sky are fake? For long stretches of both movies, you watch people on bouncy hydraulic rigs, wind machines blowing in their face, with half the rig replaced and everything around it faked.
 
What did you admire during the CGI crashes of Fury Road, or action scenes shot on and around static vehicles that were CGId to move? Nothing in Furiosa looks as bad as the war rig pushing Nux's car, the Looney Tunes ragdoll of Max or the wretched compositing of the Citadel and canyon exteriors.

How much of the scene is complementary CGI if the ground, moving wheels, background landscape and sky are fake? For long stretches of both movies, you watch people on bouncy hydraulic rigs, wind machines blowing in their face, with half the rig replaced and everything around it faked.

I know there is a lot of CGI in Fury Road. But for the most part, the stunts were real -- just like in the previous Mad Max movies. Those cars and trucks really were speeding in the desert, flipping over, exploding.

In Furiosa, a lot of that stuff was CGI vehicles and explosions.
 
I mean Mad Max is niche not sure what they expect. It's a 40 year old low budget Australian movie. Then they made one with Tina Turner with that kick ass song that was probably more memorable and popular than the movie. Mel Gibson went on to be a huge star leaving Max behind. Fury road was a mild success. Trying to make some sort of spin off without the titular character of something that was barely popular 30 years ago is not a recipe for a massive box office.
Oh well another decade so they can roll GMs carcass on set and have him direct the reboot/remake of the original with a black wheel chair bound Mad Maxine.
 
Then they made one with Tina Turner with that kick ass song that was probably more memorable and popular than the movie.
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Beyond Thunderdome. That is it's name. Remember it when you look at the night sky.
 
What's so bad about the three warlords anyway? They're all reasonable dudes, considering what they're dealing with, and clearly competent.

I'm pretty sure Bullet Farmer's face is CGI. He looks exactly like the original actor who passed away. Young Furiosa is CGI in every shot but I can't find anything about this guy.
 
Good as time as any to promote the underrated Mad Max Game that came out a bit ago. It is a bit of Batman (limited combat not as fleshed out but good), a bit of Ubisoft style open world collectathon and faction opening (thank god the world is beautiful), and a not so bad story arc that fits well within a side story for a proper Mad Max character (not a spin off of someone who is NOT Mad Max).



The only thing that hampers it, is the servers have been turned off so the scrap collection that would automatically happen when you upgrade hideouts no longer happens. This slows down the game because Scrap is necessary for upgrades and having to rely upon finding it in the world and fighting in car combat will get tedious.
 
Good as time as any to promote the underrated Mad Max Game that came out a bit ago. It is a bit of Batman (limited combat not as fleshed out but good), a bit of Ubisoft style open world collectathon and faction opening (thank god the world is beautiful), and a not so bad story arc that fits well within a side story for a proper Mad Max character (not a spin off of someone who is NOT Mad Max).



The only thing that hampers it, is the servers have been turned off so the scrap collection that would automatically happen when you upgrade hideouts no longer happens. This slows down the game because Scrap is necessary for upgrades and having to rely upon finding it in the world and fighting in car combat will get tedious.
I like that game but it really is about 10 hours of content repeated to push the whole thing to around 30h. It's very much an Ubi open world "icon on a map" experience. Also they make you wait until the endgame to get the Interceptor but the stats aren't even as good as the custom car you'll have by then. =S

But yeah, if you're a Mad Max fan it's the best videogame option you've got and definitely worth a go.

Bow down to your queen


Nobody-else-cares-age(pad?) I'm still bugged "One of the Living" has like 6 different mixes yet the version from the opening titles of Thunderdome has never been released and it's easily the best one of the lot.
 
I like that game but it really is about 10 hours of content repeated to push the whole thing to around 30h. It's very much an Ubi open world "icon on a map" experience. Also they make you wait until the endgame to get the Interceptor but the stats aren't even as good as the custom car you'll have by then. =S

But yeah, if you're a Mad Max fan it's the best videogame option you've got and definitely worth a go.

I remember being excited, but cautiously so as the game went from announcement to release. Even when I got it and played through it, I hadn't been beleaguered by the Ubisoft collection/map opening up, since I had ignored a lot of the Far Cry games, but did play most of the Assassin's Creed games up to that date. I recognized the slog and treated it the same way I treat most Assassin's Creed games in that I send my avatar around the map to do all of the towers/eagle jumps to get the world OPENED UP. I then went on to play Far Cry 3-5 (LOVED 5 the most) and accepted the fact that this is my role in these games, open up stuff, work on upgrading my character then steamroll the encampments as I can in any way I find amusing and over the top.

That isn't the point for me. The game world takes was CliffyB stated about Gears of War being beautiful decay, but did it away from cities, which were buried and those areas you could spelunk (not enough of this in Mad Max) but the wonderment that I experience in Fallout games was very much captured in Mad Max. Except I got to travel with a muscle car I was building on the fly and the stark beauty of the desert post apocalypse with distinct regions and aesthetic told a story to me without a in your face narrative.

The game is a 3 out of 5, objectively. I tilt it higher due to the stuff I like in it and Mad Max in general. We were robbed when the sequel was turned into Rage 2, because you could see the dna of Mad Max videogame the sequel throughout before they forced it into an FPS adventure shooter. I liked Rage 2 for the bombastic time it was, but I lament that we didn't get an iteration on the first Mad Max game; as the potential was there and it was very much a love letter for the fans.
 
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I remember being excited, but cautiously so as the game went from announcement to release. Even when I got it and played through it, I hadn't been beleaguered by the Ubisoft collection/map opening up, since I had ignored a lot of the Far Cry games, but did play most of the Assassin's Creed games up to that date. I recognized the slog and treated it the same way I treat most Assassin's Creed games in that I send my avatar around the map to do all of the towers/eagle jumps to get the world OPENED UP. I then went on to play Far Cry 3-5 (LOVED 5 the most) and accepted the fact that this is my role in these games, open up stuff, work on upgrading my character then steamroll the encampments as I can in any way I find amusing and over the top.

That isn't the point for me. The game world takes was CliffyB stated about Gears of War being beautiful decay, but did it away from cities, which were buried and those areas you could spelunk (not enough of this in Mad Max) but the wonderment that I experience in Fallout games was very much captured in Mad Max. Except I got to travel with a muscle car I was building on the fly and the stark beauty of the desert post apocalypse with distinct regions and aesthetic told a story to me without a in your face narrative.

The game is a 3 out of 5, objectively. I tilt it higher due to the stuff I like in it and Mad Max in general. We were robbed when the sequel was turned into Rage 2, because you could see the dna of Mad Max videogame the sequel throughout before they forced it into an FPS adventure shooter. I liked Rage 2 for the bombastic time it was, but I lament that we didn't get an iteration on the first Mad Max game; as the potential was there and it was very much a love letter for the fans.
On that last part, maybe that was for the best. Rage was flawed but had a lot of potential and the sequel basically gave it the Saints Row '22 treatment and lacked the ambition of the first. The only really good part was the shooting and that's because they were allowed to lift it from Doom. Considered Miller had a falling out with Avalanche over the MM game and in light of Rage 2, I'd hate to see what that iteration of the company/team would come up with when no longer being provided all those designs, story and background lore by Miller.
 
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It's pathetic that this movie bombed so hard... post apocalyptic genre just got a huge boost from the Fallout TV show and audiences are always hungry for similar movies/shows to watch when they find a new one they really like. Even without the Mad Max IP, this should've been a very easy success. Oh and Fallout also had a female lead so I'm curious how we can blame this on "unreasonable anti SJW culture wars".
 
It's pathetic that this movie bombed so hard... post apocalyptic genre just got a huge boost from the Fallout TV show and audiences are always hungry for similar movies/shows to watch when they find a new one they really like. Even without the Mad Max IP, this should've been a very easy success. Oh and Fallout also had a female lead so I'm curious how we can blame this on "unreasonable anti SJW culture wars".

Why would anyone want to watch a prequel to a movie that sucked as bad as Fury Road?
 
You can easily tell who hasn't actually watched this movie by..

1) calling it a "girlboss" movie
2) claiming this is a feminist or Mary Sue movie.
Not only does Furiosa get her ass kicked and stumble, she has a positive male mentor helping her through a good portion of the film.

This movie is exactly how I would want a female protagonist to be.
 
You can easily tell who hasn't actually watched this movie by..

1) calling it a "girlboss" movie
2) claiming this is a feminist or Mary Sue movie.
Not only does Furiosa get her ass kicked and stumble, she has a positive male mentor helping her through a good portion of the film.

This movie is exactly how I would want a female protagonist to be.
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Good as time as any to promote the underrated Mad Max Game that came out a bit ago. It is a bit of Batman (limited combat not as fleshed out but good), a bit of Ubisoft style open world collectathon and faction opening (thank god the world is beautiful), and a not so bad story arc that fits well within a side story for a proper Mad Max character (not a spin off of someone who is NOT Mad Max).



The only thing that hampers it, is the servers have been turned off so the scrap collection that would automatically happen when you upgrade hideouts no longer happens. This slows down the game because Scrap is necessary for upgrades and having to rely upon finding it in the world and fighting in car combat will get tedious.

Since getting a PC that can run games at max, I've been replaying a bunch of old games and this is one of them.

Loved the game, and I REALLY liked the photos he would find. Max's super depressing comments about them really set the tone about the world. Game deserved a sequel.
 
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Good as time as any to promote the underrated Mad Max Game that came out a bit ago. It is a bit of Batman (limited combat not as fleshed out but good), a bit of Ubisoft style open world collectathon and faction opening (thank god the world is beautiful), and a not so bad story arc that fits well within a side story for a proper Mad Max character (not a spin off of someone who is NOT Mad Max).



The only thing that hampers it, is the servers have been turned off so the scrap collection that would automatically happen when you upgrade hideouts no longer happens. This slows down the game because Scrap is necessary for upgrades and having to rely upon finding it in the world and fighting in car combat will get tedious.

I had a lot of time for the game, although I did burn out on it after a while. Main thing I liked about it was the sheer scale. Disappointed to hear that it's gimped now because the servers are offline, as it was one I was planning to revisit at some point.
 
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I had a lot of time for the game, although I did burn out on it after a while. Main thing I liked about it was the sheer scale. Disappointed to hear that it's gimped now because the servers are offline, as it was one I was planning to revisit at some point.

I keep wanting to revisit as well, and haven't for the same reason. It really needed a new game+ mode, but I'm not sure how they would have made the game much more interesting because you would be doing the same stuff, but overpowered and able to steamroll the entire wasteland.
 
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It's pathetic that this movie bombed so hard... post apocalyptic genre just got a huge boost from the Fallout TV show and audiences are always hungry for similar movies/shows to watch when they find a new one they really like. Even without the Mad Max IP, this should've been a very easy success. Oh and Fallout also had a female lead so I'm curious how we can blame this on "unreasonable anti SJW culture wars".

That's a classic trap. All those historical, fantasy, young adult and Potter clones that flopped since 2000 are proof that people don't care about genre. They are attracted to a strong hook. This movie had awful trailers and posters and Fury Road was not a commercial hit.

I watched it with the woman yesterday. She's really mad now because she tells all her friends to go see it but only one decided to check it out. She won't shut up about it, yet nobody gives a fuck. It dawned on her that Mad Max is a very familiar name but nobody really cares about the movies. Sad stuff.
 
That's a classic trap. All those historical, fantasy, young adult and Potter clones that flopped since 2000 are proof that people don't care about genre. They are attracted to a strong hook. This movie had awful trailers and posters and Fury Road was not a commercial hit.

I watched it with the woman yesterday. She's really mad now because she tells all her friends to go see it but only one decided to check it out. She won't shut up about it, yet nobody gives a fuck. It dawned on her that Mad Max is a very familiar name but nobody really cares about the movies. Sad stuff.

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Well this now probably makes all the decision makers look retarded. Release the film that few want before making the film people want… brilliant. Now the one people want isn't gonna happen. I personally didn't like Fury, but I know I'm in the minority there.


That sucks. Great movie.
 
That's a classic trap. All those historical, fantasy, young adult and Potter clones that flopped since 2000 are proof that people don't care about genre. They are attracted to a strong hook. This movie had awful trailers and posters and Fury Road was not a commercial hit.

I watched it with the woman yesterday. She's really mad now because she tells all her friends to go see it but only one decided to check it out. She won't shut up about it, yet nobody gives a fuck. It dawned on her that Mad Max is a very familiar name but nobody really cares about the movies. Sad stuff.

Because it's a 40 year old franchise.

Even the last one was what a decade ago ?

Mad Max was a thing in the early 80s for a hot minute mainly because of Gibson and Tina Turner. It was not really popular in the 90s or 00s aside from that cool AF Tupac video
 
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Just watched it, I had a great time, the chase scenes never disappoint and Jack was such a cool character, RIP.

Yeah yeah it's a prequel and whatever, I thought it was pretty damn good.
 
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You can easily tell who hasn't actually watched this movie by..

1) calling it a "girlboss" movie
2) claiming this is a feminist or Mary Sue movie.
Not only does Furiosa get her ass kicked and stumble, she has a positive male mentor helping her through a good portion of the film.

This movie is exactly how I would want a female protagonist to be.

I haven't seen Furiosa yet, but people used to make these complaints about Fury Road too. I never understood that. Was Fury Road a feminist movie? Yes. 100%. However, feminism is not automatically a bad thing. It depends on how it's handled. Feminism used to be about equality of the sexes, unlike the modern day version which is about putting women on a pedestal and putting down men. Fury Road consistently showed you how badass Furiosa AND Max were. It portrayed both characters as likeable and sympathetic heroes who were helping and supporting each other. I loved this scene as it perfectly exemplifies this:



And these two scenes effectively convey how badass BOTH of them are:




I also love that amazing scene where Furiosa saves Max, showing you that keeping him alive has become as important to her as keeping her girls alive. Then we have that great scene later where Max repays the favor and finally tells her his name.

And then you had Nux, another male character that you loved by the end of the movie. He gets a moment to shine too.

Also, Furiosa was not a Mary Sue. In fact, the movie makes it pretty clear that she would have completely failed in her mission without Max. She literally gives up at one point in the movie, until Max talks her out of it and gives her a new plan. The whole final act is the women following Max's plan and succeeding (and Nux plays a key role in their victory as well). Then at the end, like a selfless hero, Max lets her have all the glory and leaves, even though she clearly wants him to stay and join her.

I love that movie. We have women being badasses and fighting for freedom from "the patriarchy", but it takes the help of good, decent men for them to succeed. Men who clearly earn their respect. Fury Road shows you men at their worst (the ones sexually oppressing the women, controlling, and exploiting them) and at their best (Max and Nux fighting to help and protect the women and even willing to sacrifice themselves for them).

I have no problem watching a "feminist" movie, as long as it's done well. I also love the genius of wrapping a feminist movie up in an action spectacle. If you don't care about feminism, stay for the awesome stunts and explosions guys!

I don't know if this new movie even comes close to being as good as Fury Road, but I hope it is.
 
I never understood that. Was Fury Road a feminist movie? Yes. 100%. However, feminism is not automatically a bad thing.

At this point I'm just fucking done with this worthless discourse, if the movie doesn't have that culture war bullshit, you better be damn sure people online will talk about that regardless, and I mean all of them, everywhere, here too, just a waste of time in my honest opinion.

Talk about the damn movie here, or talk about whatever the fuck your alignments are elsewhere, in the designated threads and social spaces, please.

I don't know if this new movie even comes close to being as good as Fury Road, but I hope it is.

I think it's pretty damn good, going into this knowing what to expect, I was thoroughly invested start to finish. The story might or might not be the best thing ever written if I were to think about it, but what matters is that it was serviceable enough for the other cool parts of the movie, I definitely recommend watching.
 
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"Furiosa isn't a Mary Sue."



She has no hand, isn't the same weight class as Mad Max and knocks him down with her stump? What other things should I not believe my "lying eyes" showing me?
 
At this point I'm just fucking done with this worthless discourse, if the movie doesn't have that culture war bullshit, you better be damn sure people online will talk about that regardless, and I mean all of them, everywhere, here too, just a waste of time in my honest opinion.

Talk about the damn movie here, or talk about whatever the fuck your alignments are elsewhere, in the designated threads and social spaces, please.

While I wouldn't want to go as far as dictating what can and can't be discussed about the movie in this thread, including suggesting that unless you're discussing XYZ find somewhere else on the forum to go, I will say the discourse (if you could even call it that at this point) has hit peak retardation at points. It's reached an almost cartoonish level that borders on parody.

When youre sitting here and talking about Fury Road or Furiosa like it's some post modern feminist wet dream of woke or something, you've lost the plot. And it's unfortunate because there are real things to be bitching about out there and it all gets bogged down in eye rolling absurdity like what you're talking about here.

"Furiosa isn't a Mary Sue."



She has no hand, isn't the same weight class as Mad Max and knocks him down with her stump? What other things should I not believe my "lying eyes" showing me?


Youre throwing out all the other legitimate explanations as to why Furiosa doesn't fit the Mary Sue trope, then taking a single scene from the movie and using that as some sort of hard evidence that Fury Road is one of those evil feminist woke Mary Sue movies? It feels retarded to even try and dissect this but..she didn't knock him down with her stump.

Did you even watch the scene you linked? She comes running full tilt at Max and then the girl steps out of the way, and she slams into him knocking him down. That's a "Mary Sue" move? And if you'd somehow consider a full grown woman running full bore at an unexpected Max to be Mary Sue-y, what about the other two some-odd hours of movie that have none of those vibes running through it? That 6 second element of the movie paints the whole thing as woke feminist nonsense?

Has the brain rot advanced this far? Come on man, it's getting silly at this point.