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I am actually going to the October Race here in Texas. The OP was very useful information to understand the current events and give more context to the races. Not hugest F1 fan (obviously) but love motorsports in general. Will be my first in person F1 race.
Judging by George attitude and huge smile on his face (he told today he knows where he'll drive next year, but can't say anything), it's decided.
Austin is the great track and hosted a lot of interesting races. I always loved to drive there in simulators, it has spirit. Especially the first uphill turn and following esses. And this year is the year of close championship battle, which is a rare occurrence in modern F1. Lewis likes the track a lot, but Max should be fast there too.
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Wife and I thought about trying to go, just can't swing it this year.
I am heading to the NASCAR Bristol night race this month so that should be fun.
It's a god-awful car park that borrows its best bits from other tracks.
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My two questions are:
- Is Orlen going to abandon Alfa Romeo as a title sponsor? Seems very likely considering Kubica doesn't have a chance to return to F1 again and Orlen can become one of the 'normal' sponsors for one of the teams for way less money. If that happens - what about their budget and chances of building a competetive car?
- What about Giovinazzi? I read somewhere that he said he didn't have any contract talks yet. Don't know if it's bs or not, but maybe Alfa is going to switch their entire lineup after all.
Anyway it's going to be sad to see Kimi go even if it's the right thing to do for him.
- Is Orlen going to abandon Alfa Romeo as a title sponsor? Seems very likely considering Kubica doesn't have a chance to return to F1 again and Orlen can become one of the 'normal' sponsors for one of the teams for way less money. If that happens - what about their budget and chances of building a competetive car?
- What about Giovinazzi? I read somewhere that he said he didn't have any contract talks yet. Don't know if it's bs or not, but maybe Alfa is going to switch their entire lineup after all.
Anyway it's going to be sad to see Kimi go even if it's the right thing to do for him.
God-awful??? Strongly disagree. It has elevation changes, a lot of places for overtaking, unique first turn with late braking. Imo it's the best Tilkedrome. Even if it has borrowed best elements from other tracks (what elements btw? esses from Suzuka? it's different here) it's for the best, isn't it?
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First, glad to see you here, man!
Kubica remains their test/simulator driver, doesn't he? Maybe it's part of the deal between the team and Orlen?
I think, Gio will stay in the team next year, but who knows. I'd like to compare him to Bottas next year.
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Thanks.
I meant how much money Orlen wants to keep spending on Kubica being a test driver and having a few FP1's. Sure Orlen is a state-owned company so it makes it easier for them to spend millions on sponsorship, but ultimately it's still not a good deal. You pay a lot for being a title sponsor and "your" driver doesn't even race in the car. Robert probably got that Williams seat for a year only because the team was desperate for funding, I don't see that happening again especially after Robert's value as a driver being crushed by racing alongside George.
Can't comment about Orlen money and the deal, but yeah, after that season all his hopes for F1 seat have been shattered.
I absolutely love Zandvoort - a proper old school race track and they don't seem to have butchered it too much. Great fun to sim race for those of us into such things.
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Fucking excellent track. I'm honestly surprised they gave it the go-ahead after the Tilke shit-dromes we've been force fed for the past 20 years. Narrow as fuck, barely any run off, walls and fencing all around, and a rollercoaster layout - it is a beast. Cannot wait for Sunday. Even more so because HAM fucked his car hahahahaha.
In terms of my own experience on the sim (albeit without the banked final curve) there's a decent amount happening into T1 as it's a nice heavy braking zone. The run down to the turn 3 hairpin doesn't offer too much though I noted Max taking quite a wide line vs what I might expect there implying the possibility of a divebomb up the inside. The sweep to 9 is gorgeous to drive but in F1 cars it'll be a nightmare to follow other cars - I do however see a decent possibility of doing something into 10 if you're not too far behind at that point (not a huge chance but a chance). The next bug chance is likely in the braking zone to 11 - taking the inside there leaves you on the outside of 12 but then you're up the inside for 13-14 drag which presents an opportunity down the back straight.
I'm just casual sim racer with old G25 wheel , but since trying sim racing in VR I can't play "flat" racing games anymore, it's simply not fun. I play games like Project Cars 3 and Assetto Corsa, mostly time trials on different tracks. Wanted to try F1, but lack of VR support is pushing me away from this games. Would be great to experience career mode with champagne on the podiums, post-race interviews, autograph sessions in VR, taste the life of F1 driver not only behind the wheel.
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I got a good 70 hours out of F1 2020. The career mode is pretty good. But I say that as a controller only noob. I should look into getting a wheel.
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Oh damn, looks like Bobby K is back for 1 race.
Hopefully Kimi will have a speedy recovery after catching covid.
Happy for Robert! Hope he'll get his share of fun on this track.
I've bumped into racing enthusiasts thread on d-pad, btw. I bet guys have separate room for their racing stuff in their house, am I right @HariSeldon
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So the man cave features triple monitors and VR, plus a T300 wheel and Fanatec CSR Elite pedals. However it's also where my retro gear lives - the MiSTer, the CRT TV, the variety of old controllers, etc.Happy for Robert! Hope he'll get his share of fun on this track.
I've bumped into racing enthusiasts thread on d-pad, btw. I bet guys have separate room for their racing stuff in their house, am I right @HariSeldon
I'd definitely like to see the driving in VR, it's not a bad sim these days, not quite iracing/rfactor/assetto corsa but solid enough. The other stuff not so much.
The podium champagne spraying might be half fun but if you play Job Simulator or similar you'll see that weightless feel to objects in the game (because they are weightless) and really interaction is somewhat superficial. The interviews would still be picking answers from a list because computers understanding human speech isn't there yet - so the experience wouldn't differ wildly and frankly I've never seen press conferences done well - think of how shit they are in Football Manager.
Autographing would get old very very quickly. It would just look from the outside like you were wanking off a bunch of blokes or something.
Yeah, I see now I didn't think properly expressing my wishes. Better concentrate on racing then. I think VR podium champagne would never get old though.
Grid girls. That's something we need in VR (and in real life too for that matter).
The whole crawling along to prepare the tyres bullshit needs to stop. Set a minimum speed, then you don't have dangerous speed differentials on track. F1 is retarded sometimes.
Loving the track. The return of Imola and the addition of Zandvoort are wonderful. Old-school F1 tracks are amazing.
Loving the track. The return of Imola and the addition of Zandvoort are wonderful. Old-school F1 tracks are amazing.
Not great for Williams - pranging both cars. The first was correctly identified by Sky - George got on the kerb and that put oversteer into the car, correction took him off the proper line and he was gone. Second - Hamilton going slow and Latifi coming up fast, had to correct a little but that correction at speed let him with insufficient grip to complete the corner.
I suppose there are completely different trajectory without banking, I was surprised wide line was better there for F1 drivers.
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Well that was about as exciting as I expected. I knew there wouldn't be much action here, but hopefully next year when the cars can run closer together we should see a better race. Awesome track, but qualifying was more exciting. Glad Max is back in the lead. Best part was Lewis complaining about everything and Bottas ignoring team orders. Yeah, he's gone next year.
