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Just saw it for the third time, second in theater. I think the ending works a bit more if you look at it as Paul becoming the Kwisatz Haderach. Everything in the film just kinda comes together from him having to kill someone, for his own survival, according the the ways of the desert.

I still kinda wish, in a post-Zack Snyder's Justice League world, that Hollywood would embrace the 4-hour movie and just give me my full Dune story :LOL:
 
Just saw it for the third time, second in theater. I think the ending works a bit more if you look at it as Paul becoming the Kwisatz Haderach. Everything in the film just kinda comes together from him having to kill someone, for his own survival, according the the ways of the desert.

I still kinda wish, in a post-Zack Snyder's Justice League world, that Hollywood would embrace the 4-hour movie and just give me my full Dune story :LOL:
The more I see this the more the ending grows on me. It's really a perfect point to show the death of Paul Atriedes and the end of his childhood.
 
Just saw it for the third time, second in theater. I think the ending works a bit more if you look at it as Paul becoming the Kwisatz Haderach. Everything in the film just kinda comes together from him having to kill someone, for his own survival, according the the ways of the desert.

I still kinda wish, in a post-Zack Snyder's Justice League world, that Hollywood would embrace the 4-hour movie and just give me my full Dune story :LOL:
Just stitch it together with the 80s version
 
Great movie. Saw it tonight.

Being familiar with the book helped big time. Wife was confused but she liked it alot too. She plans on reading the book now.

Really nothing to complain about, stoked for part 2.
Did anyone else get the vibe that Paul had the hots for his dads concubine?
 
Don't we all?

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She is fine
 
So, after a few setbacks, finally had our date night to see this for the first time and in IMAX. Holy crap. I'm in awe. I honestly thought the hype was probably overrated and that my hype and expectations for it would bring it down... But it greatly exceeded my expectations. Even my wife liked it a lot and she had just got done telling me how she doesn't really like sci fi before we went. But ever since she'll keep bringing up things about the movie to talk about. I don't think I've ever wanted to go back and see a movie again so bad.

That last scene where Paul has to fight that Fremen was so good. You could tell the moment Paul realized that he'd have to kill the guy and exactly why and what it meant. It wasn't an act of hate or ignorance that he wanted to do battle with him, but of necessity. To ensure to everyone, as well as Paul himself, that Paul was capable and strong enough to lead them in this harsh landscape. This sacrifice turned this total stranger into one of the most important acquaintances that Paul had run across even though it was just a small moment in his story. The way they grasp eachothers wrists as he dies, in mutual respect and understanding, was just poetry. I wonder if most of this new world full of snowflakes could even comprehend any of that.

EDIT: Oh jsyk,

 
So, after a few setbacks, finally had our date night to see this for the first time and in IMAX. Holy crap. I'm in awe. I honestly thought the hype was probably overrated and that my hype and expectations for it would bring it down... But it greatly exceeded my expectations. Even my wife liked it a lot and she had just got done telling me how she doesn't really like sci fi before we went. But ever since she'll keep bringing up things about the movie to talk about. I don't think I've ever wanted to go back and see a movie again so bad.

That last scene where Paul has to fight that Fremen was so good. You could tell the moment Paul realized that he'd have to kill the guy and exactly why and what it meant. It wasn't an act of hate or ignorance that he wanted to do battle with him, but of necessity. To ensure to everyone, as well as Paul himself, that Paul was capable and strong enough to lead them in this harsh landscape. This sacrifice turned this total stranger into one of the most important acquaintances that Paul had run across even though it was just a small moment in his story. The way they grasp eachothers wrists as he dies, in mutual respect and understanding, was just poetry. I wonder if most of this new world full of snowflakes could even comprehend any of that.

EDIT: Oh jsyk,


Yeah, it's a great moment. Esp as Paul has had visions of Jamis as a mentor to him, so suddenly there's this realisation that he's essentially not just killing a man, but also killing that particular future as well.
 
I thought Jamis was one of the most memorable performances because of how friendly he is in the visions contrasted against how hostile he is in person and how cocky and angry he is during the fight.

With the vision of Paul's death, Chani so certain he'll be killed, and the apathy of the Fremen watching what they believe will be Paul's death, it hits you when Paul salutes him and they play Duncan's theme - you remember who trained Paul, and realize that Jamis never stood a chance.
 
I thought Jamis was one of the most memorable performances because of how friendly he is in the visions contrasted against how hostile he is in person and how cocky and angry he is during the fight.

With the vision of Paul's death, Chani so certain he'll be killed, and the apathy of the Fremen watching what they believe will be Paul's death, it hits you when Paul salutes him and they play Duncan's theme - you remember who trained Paul, and realize that Jamis never stood a chance.

Exactly. Duncan Idaho said the Fremen were fierce fighters, but Duncan Idaho was Paul's weapons trainer and the dude was a Ginaz Swordmaster which is why he cut through so many Sardukaur. The whole point of how and why Paul is able to get the Fremen to unite in Book 2 is down to him teaching them his knife/sword-fighting techniques in conjunction with Jessica teaching them the Bene Gesserit weirding way Martial Arts IIRC.
 
Exactly. Duncan Idaho said the Fremen were fierce fighters, but Duncan Idaho was Paul's weapons trainer and the dude was a Ginaz Swordmaster which is why he cut through so many Sardukaur. The whole point of how and why Paul is able to get the Fremen to unite in Book 2 is down to him teaching them his knife/sword-fighting techniques in conjunction with Jessica teaching them the Bene Gesserit weirding way Martial Arts IIRC.
This. Paul isn't some newbie scrub like Luke Skywalker. He's the heir to a noble house who's had the benefit of being trained by two great masters like Duncan and Gurney Halleck, while also learning the ways of the Bene Gesserit from Jessica. Add to the fact that his prescience is beginning to emerge, he could probably see all of Jamis' attacks before the fight even began.
 
Finally got around to watching this and I really enjoyed it, but totally agree with the OP that it felt like 3/4 of a good movie. I definitely didn't expect it to end when it did and was hoping for more.

Really well-realized universe and great characters. I've never read the books before, but this certainly has me interested.
 
Finally got around to watching this and I really enjoyed it, but totally agree with the OP that it felt like 3/4 of a good movie. I definitely didn't expect it to end when it did and was hoping for more.

Really well-realized universe and great characters. I've never read the books before, but this certainly has me interested.
This is what I'm curious about is what people think who have never read the book. I finished it for the first time just a few days before watching the movie.

I felt like a lot of things were much better understood by having read the book and couldn't tell if the movie was really going to work well for people who hadn't read it. There's so much I feel would be difficult to understand. Also, despite the movie's length and only being 1/2 of the story, it also feels like it rushes through major moments.

I did like the movie, but damn did it make me just wish it was a huge budget TV show instead. Give it a Game of Thrones budget and tell the story properly over the time needed and to me that would be perfect.
 
This is what I'm curious about is what people think who have never read the book. I finished it for the first time just a few days before watching the movie.

I felt like a lot of things were much better understood by having read the book and couldn't tell if the movie was really going to work well for people who hadn't read it. There's so much I feel would be difficult to understand. Also, despite the movie's length and only being 1/2 of the story, it also feels like it rushes through major moments.

I did like the movie, but damn did it make me just wish it was a huge budget TV show instead. Give it a Game of Thrones budget and tell the story properly over the time needed and to me that would be perfect.
The thing is it wouldn't be as good on tv. Dune at a proper cinema with big fucking speakers is where it's at.
 
I reread the book after watching this.

Movie is easily one of my favorite but I am worried how they will pull off the second half Lots of ways that it can go sideways.
 
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