Army of the Dead - Directed by Zack Snyder (Zaddy), Starring Dave Bautista
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My best friend loves Batista and loves our city of Las Vegas so I texted him on this.
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Yeah @Aiden Pearce just messaged me about it but I don't think he was aware of this thread about it here.
I want to see for Batista but mainly because it's here in Vegas.
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I’m dying to see this for 2 reasons: its Las Vegas location, and of course, Zombies! The casting director could have thrown the shit homeless of Las Vegas a few bucks and saved a fortune in makeup and wardrobe expenses.
I wish my kids were old enough to to watch this or my wife liked zombie stuff.
Pretty entertaining. I just find the idea of wandering into anywhere wherein the enemy can infect you with a bite wearing not much more than T-shirts and a bit of body armour a bit incredulous, plus silencers are a thing. But yeah firm thumbs up.
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On the list of dumb shit in this movie, this ranks at the bottom of the list. You're right though. I get that this is in the desert, but holy shit lmfao.
It's a pet peeve of mine. The same dumb shit happens in TLOU as well tbh. Albeit I can't say I was a big fan of it as far as the writing goes (so many cringe national stereotypes), credit where credit is due in World War Z (the book rather than the film) the author at least has the sense to have people cotton onto the idea of using protection for their hards and arms etc against Zombie bites.
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I 100 percent agree. Some face masks(It's a fucking virus spread through blood and saliva, if that shit gets in your eyes or an open wound you are FUCKED) and armor plating on a decent uniform could trivialize a lot of encounters with these things here. That said everyone in this movie is a fucking moron so it's to be expected.
I will admit, it was fun listening to my friend in the military get really butthurt about how dumb the soldiers at the beginning of the movie were.
Dacon
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Like, there's some really good shit in this movie like the UFOs at the beginning when theyre transporting the alpha from area 51, some of the zombies appearing to be some kind of robot or cyborg, the glowing eyes and blue blood coming out of some of the, the zombie tiger scene, the setting and tech used to make it, some pretty good action scenes here and there. Some of the shots are amazing too. The little meta speech with the corpses wearing their clothes Vanderhoe gives is pretty neat too. The montage of the zombie war in Vegas at the beginning of the film is BETTER than the actual film. I want to see a movie of that.
Then there's really bad shit like the characters, they're all idiots. The plot is predictable as hell and honestly kind of really dumb. People just do stupid shit throughout the movie from the first scene.
The commanding officer of the soldiers at the beginning is so fucking slow to react to what his CO is telling him, that he gets all his men killed by standing around with a dumb look on his face, then half heartedly telling his men to get away from the thing with no urgency in his voice. Then after all but two of them are dead, as they run away one of them falls down and both of them moronically hang around to laugh about it, with no concern for the ravenous monster about to obliterate them.
Bly pointlessly misleads the team about his true intentions for no discernable reason, ensuring he won't get what he really wants. Why wasn't he just honest about what he wanted? Offer 50/100 mil for an Alpha head. The team fucking around with money they could barely carry through a horde of zombies only served to slow down the mission and reduce their chances of exfil. If the concern is them knowing their real intentions you can buy their silence easily enough with money, it is the motivating factor here, or just have them all killed when they get back. Offering a bounty on a zombie head makes more sense, and in hindsight would have been a more sensible objective. It was already apparent from the start that the money wasn't the real objective for them.
Dumb evil corporate guy Martin is so dumb and evil he wastes no time doing dumb evil guy stuff like sacrificing one of the crew to a horde in such a stupid fashion that it could have gotten him and the rest of the crew killed as well. This results in a really cool action scene where Chambers fights for her life against the zombies, and she does put up a good fight. I was desperately hoping that the obvious thing wouldn't happen here and she would survive, but nope. The zombies catch up with her and she as she's struggling to defend herself, Guzman stands around watching his friend fight for her life, BEFORE she even gets bit and does nothing to help her. He watches until she eventually gets bit, and he is finally content to do something about it and shoots her gas tank killing her and the horde.
So now she dies, for literally nothing at the very beginning of the mission, because dumb evil corporate guy is so confident that he doesn't need these guys to help him escape the zombies with his prize, which is so stupid that it obviously leads to his own death by zombie tiger, which is the coolest and most memorable scene in the film. .
The entire plotline about Scott and his family is ruined by his daughter being completely terrible. Her motivations for going into the zone are fucking retarded. The mom runs off without her kids and she's so worried about the kids being left along she leaves them to go into the zone with hundreds of zombies and leave the kids with no one to look after them for certain. Scott is a fucking idiot, so he lets her come with them, immediately making it obvious that he is going to die saving her, which he does.
The plot with Vanderhoe and Ludwig was entertaining, and they had nice chemistry for most of their scenes but it is ultimately underutilized when it could have been the heart of the film. Vanderhoe trying to fistfight the Alpha was beyond stupid. At least use a damn knife dude. The fact that the Alpha doesn't kill him and Ludwig saves him by locking him in the safe makes it obvious that not only was he bit, but he's also going to survive the nuke and will leave the area to infect other people.
Then there's all of the dumb niggling shit like, let's fire off our weapons repeatedly with no suppressors in an area FULL of zombies. Oh while we're at it instead of hurrying and completeting their mission, everyone keeps stopping to talk to each other in VERY hostile territory. Hey we only have an hour and thirty minutes until a nuke gets dropped on us? Better stop to talk. The daughter fucking runs away from the team alone, doesn't even consider even if she finds Geta how will she fight through the horde with just the two of them to get back to the copter? Not to mention the heli pilot makes a huge point of how her life is just as important as the safe cracker, and Scott STILL leaves her alone on the rooftop with no backup.
I really wanted to enjoy this movie, but it was so damn disappointing, I just didnt give a damn about any of these characters, so there was no tension or weight to the things that happened.
Then there's really bad shit like the characters, they're all idiots. The plot is predictable as hell and honestly kind of really dumb. People just do stupid shit throughout the movie from the first scene.
The commanding officer of the soldiers at the beginning is so fucking slow to react to what his CO is telling him, that he gets all his men killed by standing around with a dumb look on his face, then half heartedly telling his men to get away from the thing with no urgency in his voice. Then after all but two of them are dead, as they run away one of them falls down and both of them moronically hang around to laugh about it, with no concern for the ravenous monster about to obliterate them.
Bly pointlessly misleads the team about his true intentions for no discernable reason, ensuring he won't get what he really wants. Why wasn't he just honest about what he wanted? Offer 50/100 mil for an Alpha head. The team fucking around with money they could barely carry through a horde of zombies only served to slow down the mission and reduce their chances of exfil. If the concern is them knowing their real intentions you can buy their silence easily enough with money, it is the motivating factor here, or just have them all killed when they get back. Offering a bounty on a zombie head makes more sense, and in hindsight would have been a more sensible objective. It was already apparent from the start that the money wasn't the real objective for them.
Dumb evil corporate guy Martin is so dumb and evil he wastes no time doing dumb evil guy stuff like sacrificing one of the crew to a horde in such a stupid fashion that it could have gotten him and the rest of the crew killed as well. This results in a really cool action scene where Chambers fights for her life against the zombies, and she does put up a good fight. I was desperately hoping that the obvious thing wouldn't happen here and she would survive, but nope. The zombies catch up with her and she as she's struggling to defend herself, Guzman stands around watching his friend fight for her life, BEFORE she even gets bit and does nothing to help her. He watches until she eventually gets bit, and he is finally content to do something about it and shoots her gas tank killing her and the horde.
So now she dies, for literally nothing at the very beginning of the mission, because dumb evil corporate guy is so confident that he doesn't need these guys to help him escape the zombies with his prize, which is so stupid that it obviously leads to his own death by zombie tiger, which is the coolest and most memorable scene in the film. .
The entire plotline about Scott and his family is ruined by his daughter being completely terrible. Her motivations for going into the zone are fucking retarded. The mom runs off without her kids and she's so worried about the kids being left along she leaves them to go into the zone with hundreds of zombies and leave the kids with no one to look after them for certain. Scott is a fucking idiot, so he lets her come with them, immediately making it obvious that he is going to die saving her, which he does.
The plot with Vanderhoe and Ludwig was entertaining, and they had nice chemistry for most of their scenes but it is ultimately underutilized when it could have been the heart of the film. Vanderhoe trying to fistfight the Alpha was beyond stupid. At least use a damn knife dude. The fact that the Alpha doesn't kill him and Ludwig saves him by locking him in the safe makes it obvious that not only was he bit, but he's also going to survive the nuke and will leave the area to infect other people.
Then there's all of the dumb niggling shit like, let's fire off our weapons repeatedly with no suppressors in an area FULL of zombies. Oh while we're at it instead of hurrying and completeting their mission, everyone keeps stopping to talk to each other in VERY hostile territory. Hey we only have an hour and thirty minutes until a nuke gets dropped on us? Better stop to talk. The daughter fucking runs away from the team alone, doesn't even consider even if she finds Geta how will she fight through the horde with just the two of them to get back to the copter? Not to mention the heli pilot makes a huge point of how her life is just as important as the safe cracker, and Scott STILL leaves her alone on the rooftop with no backup.
I really wanted to enjoy this movie, but it was so damn disappointing, I just didnt give a damn about any of these characters, so there was no tension or weight to the things that happened.
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Gonna watch the next say or two. Love me Zombie flicks and DOD was one of Zacks best.
It was a weird order, probably one he'd never gotten before by his reaction.
Monster sounded like it was going away to them, also the laughing about it then jump scare was an homage to American Werewolf in London.
Probably because the characters had enough morals to not agree to help generate a bio-weapon, which was the point of the alpha head. Not to mention you act like not telling them is why he didn't get away with it as opposed to because he told anyone, after all she swapped the head on him. Though, I'm sure zombie tiger would have gotten him anyways, again this was another movie homage, Aliens this time. This film's DNA is great '80s films.
You mean when he messes up the trail for the girl to follow who specifically said she's going to call him on his BS? He couldn't have known how long it'd take for her to activate the zombies, just that she'd be lost. If she survived that would be more unbelievable than the things you found unbelievable about the film, not to mention she'd just tell them about the dude being evil. Now you're just lying or misremembering because Guzman tries shooting zombies off of her before he shoots the gas tank and before she gets bit.
So, you need to get over characters in movies not making perfect decisions lol. Like she went into the zone because without money she couldn't get her kids out. Scott's daughter going after her is because she's a good person and would rather do the right thing than the smart thing, I mean, it was the entire reason she went. He was an idiot for letting her go? When the ultimatum was she'd sneak in alone after them if he didn't let her go what was he meant to do?
I thought he put up a decent fight, lol, the things that trigger you are so weird like why didn't he pull out a knife? I dunno, did he have one? Also this "it made it obvious X would happen" uh... okay... you go a bit far with your idea of what is obvious and what isn't. Like I pictured him surviving the nuke because he was in the vault but I'm not seeing how the zombie bite was obvious?
They were firing indoors so I doubt the zombies have super hearing. Unless you mean the part where the Corporate stooge and the Coyote fire into the air purposefully to draw in the alphas. I mean until they had only 90 minutes to complete the mission they seemed to be keeping a good pace, small talk or no, most small talk was about them noticing they weren't the first team so I'm not seeing why they wouldn't talk about that. I don't remember them stopping themselves from doing anything when the nuke was imminent, there was the guy cracking the safe and the girl getting the helicopter ready but everyone else just had to hope they finished in time essentially. So, two things with the daughter, I'd need to re-watch, though... 1. if it was BEFORE they found out they had 90 minutes then she probably thought she could do this mission stealthy and she mostly did. 2. If it was AFTER they found out they had 90 minutes then she kinda had little time to save her friends, her whole reason for going, right? Wait, why does it matter the heli pilot is alone on the roof, are we assuming the zombies will just go right by the rest of the team to go reach her? I mean they did send two party members to block off all the entrances and windows, whether or not they actually did it being besides the point.
Monster sounded like it was going away to them, also the laughing about it then jump scare was an homage to American Werewolf in London.
Probably because the characters had enough morals to not agree to help generate a bio-weapon, which was the point of the alpha head. Not to mention you act like not telling them is why he didn't get away with it as opposed to because he told anyone, after all she swapped the head on him. Though, I'm sure zombie tiger would have gotten him anyways, again this was another movie homage, Aliens this time. This film's DNA is great '80s films.
You mean when he messes up the trail for the girl to follow who specifically said she's going to call him on his BS? He couldn't have known how long it'd take for her to activate the zombies, just that she'd be lost. If she survived that would be more unbelievable than the things you found unbelievable about the film, not to mention she'd just tell them about the dude being evil. Now you're just lying or misremembering because Guzman tries shooting zombies off of her before he shoots the gas tank and before she gets bit.
So, you need to get over characters in movies not making perfect decisions lol. Like she went into the zone because without money she couldn't get her kids out. Scott's daughter going after her is because she's a good person and would rather do the right thing than the smart thing, I mean, it was the entire reason she went. He was an idiot for letting her go? When the ultimatum was she'd sneak in alone after them if he didn't let her go what was he meant to do?
I thought he put up a decent fight, lol, the things that trigger you are so weird like why didn't he pull out a knife? I dunno, did he have one? Also this "it made it obvious X would happen" uh... okay... you go a bit far with your idea of what is obvious and what isn't. Like I pictured him surviving the nuke because he was in the vault but I'm not seeing how the zombie bite was obvious?
They were firing indoors so I doubt the zombies have super hearing. Unless you mean the part where the Corporate stooge and the Coyote fire into the air purposefully to draw in the alphas. I mean until they had only 90 minutes to complete the mission they seemed to be keeping a good pace, small talk or no, most small talk was about them noticing they weren't the first team so I'm not seeing why they wouldn't talk about that. I don't remember them stopping themselves from doing anything when the nuke was imminent, there was the guy cracking the safe and the girl getting the helicopter ready but everyone else just had to hope they finished in time essentially. So, two things with the daughter, I'd need to re-watch, though... 1. if it was BEFORE they found out they had 90 minutes then she probably thought she could do this mission stealthy and she mostly did. 2. If it was AFTER they found out they had 90 minutes then she kinda had little time to save her friends, her whole reason for going, right? Wait, why does it matter the heli pilot is alone on the roof, are we assuming the zombies will just go right by the rest of the team to go reach her? I mean they did send two party members to block off all the entrances and windows, whether or not they actually did it being besides the point.
Anyways, fantastic film, imagine not liking a movie for reasons like these LOL
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Do we get any Batista bombs on some Zombies?
Also maybe a cameo from Evolution with HHH, Natich, and Orton showing up?
Evolution is a mystery......
Do we get any Batista bombs on some Zombies?
Also maybe a cameo from Evolution with HHH, Natich, and Orton showing up?
Evolution is a mystery......
The film isn't really that silly but he might have? I'm trying to recall, he has at least one hand-to-hand type fight with a zombie. Basically the movie is Aliens but with zombies and slot machines, like it's structured like that film, echoes beats from it nearly exactly, etc. Snyder said in an interview the film was inspired by the greats of the '80s like Aliens, Escape From New York and RoboCop.
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This should be the opening of the movie
Joke.
Sounds good. Stuckmen said that its just a fun turn your brain off movie, but a bit long. As long as it is on par with DOD it should be fun.
Oh I hate that critic I would beat him up if I met him in real life
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Woke up at 5 am to watch this while kids were asleep. They woke up early. I got half way through and I'm liking it. They ruined bad moon rising though. Other than that so far so good. 
. Got about 45 minutes left. Finish it tonight.
. Got about 45 minutes left. Finish it tonight.
Dacon
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So instead of heeding it you stand around looking like an idiot? Someone screaming at you to get the fuck out of somewhere, most people who have a brain are going to panic because it means something is very fucking wrong. It becomes even more stupid because the cargo is compromised, and this guy just had a whole conversation with someone about how what they were hauling could be very fucking dangerous, and all of a sudden that just doesn't matter.
These characters are mercenaries, their primary motivation is money. None of them are particularly moral, except for the daughter's motivations. It is no less believable that they wouldn't go for a zombie head than 200 mil they couldn't plausibly escape with, which surprise suprise, they don't.
The plot could have very easily been written around them not caring about retrieving a zombie head, and them not giving a shit about the moral implications.
Something being a "homage" doesn't make it good, or appropriate for a scene in a film. Just throwing in homages and nods to old movies without a concrete context in the film is dumb
She was literally on the ground fighting the zombies and people who could have helped her were fucking just standing there. They could have saved her. Her telling the guy that she suspected him somehow prompting him to do something so stupid that it could have gotten him killed too is retarded. They all suspected him, there's a whole scene where this is pointed out where Tig's character talks about how suspicious he is and the entire crew stares at him as a result of her monologue. This is a no mans land filled with thousands of undead monsters. You at least fucking wait until you''re safe and out of danger to start killing people who could save your goddamn life.
There is no sensible reason to turn on any of them during the mission, when you could literally just have a kill team waiting for them after exfil to clean them up and retrieve the package.
Guzman shoots one zombie off of her after they've grabbed her and start biting her. He literally just fucking stands there until it's already fucking too late. So no, lying my ass. There was plenty of time for him and the crew to help her, and they don't.
It's not an unreasonable expectation for characters to behave in a believable fashion. There are organizations and activists working to get the refugees out of the zone, and the government was actively looking to nuke the zone. Anyone with a brain could tell they would get evacuated because there's no way the government would nuke them along with the city because of the PR nightmare that would ensue. The mom sacrificed herself for nothing, and left her children alone. The daughter should have acknowledged how stupid and selfish that was and made sure the kids were looked after because there's almost no chance the mom survived in the zone.
Good person? She doesn't give a fuck about her own father(until he dies because of her) risking his life for money, or risking the lives of everyone else in the crew by tagging along for her own selfish reasons. She's a freaking idiot. She even abandons the crew at the worst fucking moment to pursue her own ends knowing her dad would risk his life to come for her.
All she does is trade the lives of other people for one fucking person, who in the end she doesn't even give a fuck about after the crash. She doesnt even look for her, or call her name. The only reason she even cares about this chick is because she's think about this all relates to her own loss.
Yes he was a fucking idiot. Ultimatum? So fucking what, knock her unconscious and have her removed from the zone. The dirty security guy was walking around making people leave, then surely there's other personnel still there making sure people were getting lifted out, he could have handed her to one of them. There is no fucking sensible reason for him to take his daughter into a hostile territory where she is probably going to get fucking ripped apart. The dad himself even admitted there was a very good chance they would all die on this mission. His daughter is another massive liability.
He did absolutely no damage to Zeus.
Because there had to be a sequel hook. Things by this point are cascading into their demises, everything is going wrong. There had to be a reason Vanderhoe survived.
They're smart enough to dodge bullets, some appear to have superhuman strength, not to mention they are literally everywhere. It doesn't matter that theyre indoors. Do you have any idea how loud an unsuppressed assault rifle is? The sound can easily reverberate through a building especially one with no sound traffic, and it wasn't just indoors they fired outdoors as well where the sound can travel quite a ways.
The vault isn't right next to the heli. A zombie horde could have gotten triggered by all the noise she was making up there. She's super important, she should have had someone watching her back. Hell a zombie could have just wandered up there. There's no telling what could happen, shes a VIP and you protect your VIPs.
Yeah, it's such a dumb reason to not enjoy a movie because of a predictable plot full of stupid people. Theres good visuals and good action, but the action is so sparse it can't save the rest of it.
It's funny how I never deride people for liking movies I didn't, but someone always feels the need to come after me. Instead of just accepting that someone has different tastes from them they get butthurt and attack people for not liking their throwaway entertainment. As if my reasons for disliking something are less valid than theirs for liking something or ignoring all its flaws.
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LOL looks like I'm not the biggest autist here. Hey if you want I'll go through that retardation later though.
But I will point out now if you want to talk about realism you don't understand how loud a suppressed gun actually is.
But I will point out now if you want to talk about realism you don't understand how loud a suppressed gun actually is.
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I've fired one before, so I do actually. It's a fact that theyre not anywhere near as loud as a plain old gunshot. There was never any suggest that theyre completely silent.
Alright, no more personal insults, I was in a mood... BUT...
So, I don't really care if the guy behaved improperly in that scene, no matter what head start he had he clearly wasn't escaping the Alpha. Surely you can acknowledge this?
You're really stretching things with this mercenaries angle, they were mostly people who fought for our country and came on hard times. They were not in this to harm any human beings and the money they were stealing was already insured by the government. The moral waters aren't as gray for them as you want to pretend. What investment could the audience have in characters willing to help someone create a bio-weapon, exactly?
You could write a plot around that... but... why?
I'd say fun homages are more important than plot logistics, I care more about the art of film than how smart decisions people make are.
In the Tig scene he asks why they're staring... because he didn't hear that dialogue. The girl in this scene very specifically says she's going to confornt him after they get through, if you want to criticize dumb decisions maybe go with hers? Also she was completely engulfed by the zombies, I'm not understanding the idea she could be saved. I mean, had they saved her she'd probably have a bite somewhere, turn and kill someone and you'd call them just as dumb for allowing that to happen, right?
I've got a sensible reason! She clues them into what he's up to and they all turn on him!
I don't get some of your issues, all movies need do is establish characters and have them be consistent, the character wanted to get out of there with her kids, she did what she could to make that happen. Just like for his daughter, it was in-character to NOT consider the mother a lost cause and try to save her. Behaving in character is more important than making the smartest possible decisions, or have you never met humans? Like if you think humans are smarter than this oh boy lol
It's weird how you turn the character trying to save people into a selfish character and the one trying to steal money into a selfless character but I guess logic is out the window on this.
Calls her name? Is there somewhere else she'd be besides in the wreckage? The armchair psychology for why she cares is interesting, it's almost like you want to acknowledge human beings have motivations and psychological issues that create the decisions they make but then you suddenly go "but I didn't like those decisions so they're bad!"
Man, you must be fun to watch movies with. You know I've seen that trick in a movie before, knock the person out and have them taken away... then they come to and show up anyways... because if a writer wants something to happen in a movie it will surely happen haha. Like who the Hell has these issues with a film? Who is like "He should deck his daughter, possibly killing her, but it's a movie so people getting knocked out is always survivable"??? lol
What did you see his health bar or something? Who cares if he did no damage, he fought like a man, it was badass.
I mean, there can be lots of easy sequel hooks, you don't even need one to have a sequel, honestly.
They only fired outdoors when they intentionally were grabbing the attention of the alphas, watch the movie again, you'll see. Also I still am unsure you get the idea behind gun suppression, it's mostly used because of the damage to the human ear a gun does, though in environments with similar levels of noise it can help cover up the gunshots, the problem is the level of noise required to equal a suppressed gun is extremely high and there was nothing in the film that noisy lol, like maybe if there were active nightclubs, though nightclubs with sound in the range that would help muffle gunshots would be pretty damaging to your ears. They can also sort of help with the ability of someone to locate the exact source of a sound but I'm not sure how much that stops an entire zombie horde bearing down on you.
All the noise she's making? On a roof? LOUDER than your suppressed guns? Look, this is another weird ass complaint, the vault doesn't need to be right near the Heli if they have the ground floor covered. Why would having someone with Tig make the movie better, is the real question here.
Action is so sparse? Compared to what? "Predictable plot" uh... whatever. I'm not sure the zombie genre is known for its plots.
I mean, if you think all our views are completely equal you could just say "Damn, guess you see things differently, okay." But you seem to be arguing all this minutiae pretty hard. It's whatever if you don't like it but not liking movies because of characters behaving in ways you wouldn't is just so disappointing, like please have better reasons than that. The gift of hindsight makes literally any movie plot something you're "smarter than" after the fact, no one is impressed by your ability to plan zombie heists better than movie characters. I watch movies to be entertained, people being stupid does not prevent me from being entertained, if they're stupid in a way that's OUT OF CHARACTER then it might bother me, because it takes you out of a film, you realize the character made a decision to further the plot and not because they would actually make it. I don't see that in your critiques, though, this isn't about characters behaving differently to how they're characterized for you, it's about them not doing the exact thing that would keep them alive and successful which is just like... okay... I'm sure there's a movie that's as boring as that for you to watch out there somewhere.
You're really stretching things with this mercenaries angle, they were mostly people who fought for our country and came on hard times. They were not in this to harm any human beings and the money they were stealing was already insured by the government. The moral waters aren't as gray for them as you want to pretend. What investment could the audience have in characters willing to help someone create a bio-weapon, exactly?
You could write a plot around that... but... why?
I'd say fun homages are more important than plot logistics, I care more about the art of film than how smart decisions people make are.
In the Tig scene he asks why they're staring... because he didn't hear that dialogue. The girl in this scene very specifically says she's going to confornt him after they get through, if you want to criticize dumb decisions maybe go with hers? Also she was completely engulfed by the zombies, I'm not understanding the idea she could be saved. I mean, had they saved her she'd probably have a bite somewhere, turn and kill someone and you'd call them just as dumb for allowing that to happen, right?
I've got a sensible reason! She clues them into what he's up to and they all turn on him!
I don't get some of your issues, all movies need do is establish characters and have them be consistent, the character wanted to get out of there with her kids, she did what she could to make that happen. Just like for his daughter, it was in-character to NOT consider the mother a lost cause and try to save her. Behaving in character is more important than making the smartest possible decisions, or have you never met humans? Like if you think humans are smarter than this oh boy lol
It's weird how you turn the character trying to save people into a selfish character and the one trying to steal money into a selfless character but I guess logic is out the window on this.
Calls her name? Is there somewhere else she'd be besides in the wreckage? The armchair psychology for why she cares is interesting, it's almost like you want to acknowledge human beings have motivations and psychological issues that create the decisions they make but then you suddenly go "but I didn't like those decisions so they're bad!"
Man, you must be fun to watch movies with. You know I've seen that trick in a movie before, knock the person out and have them taken away... then they come to and show up anyways... because if a writer wants something to happen in a movie it will surely happen haha. Like who the Hell has these issues with a film? Who is like "He should deck his daughter, possibly killing her, but it's a movie so people getting knocked out is always survivable"??? lol
What did you see his health bar or something? Who cares if he did no damage, he fought like a man, it was badass.
I mean, there can be lots of easy sequel hooks, you don't even need one to have a sequel, honestly.
They only fired outdoors when they intentionally were grabbing the attention of the alphas, watch the movie again, you'll see. Also I still am unsure you get the idea behind gun suppression, it's mostly used because of the damage to the human ear a gun does, though in environments with similar levels of noise it can help cover up the gunshots, the problem is the level of noise required to equal a suppressed gun is extremely high and there was nothing in the film that noisy lol, like maybe if there were active nightclubs, though nightclubs with sound in the range that would help muffle gunshots would be pretty damaging to your ears. They can also sort of help with the ability of someone to locate the exact source of a sound but I'm not sure how much that stops an entire zombie horde bearing down on you.
All the noise she's making? On a roof? LOUDER than your suppressed guns? Look, this is another weird ass complaint, the vault doesn't need to be right near the Heli if they have the ground floor covered. Why would having someone with Tig make the movie better, is the real question here.
Action is so sparse? Compared to what? "Predictable plot" uh... whatever. I'm not sure the zombie genre is known for its plots.
I mean, if you think all our views are completely equal you could just say "Damn, guess you see things differently, okay." But you seem to be arguing all this minutiae pretty hard. It's whatever if you don't like it but not liking movies because of characters behaving in ways you wouldn't is just so disappointing, like please have better reasons than that. The gift of hindsight makes literally any movie plot something you're "smarter than" after the fact, no one is impressed by your ability to plan zombie heists better than movie characters. I watch movies to be entertained, people being stupid does not prevent me from being entertained, if they're stupid in a way that's OUT OF CHARACTER then it might bother me, because it takes you out of a film, you realize the character made a decision to further the plot and not because they would actually make it. I don't see that in your critiques, though, this isn't about characters behaving differently to how they're characterized for you, it's about them not doing the exact thing that would keep them alive and successful which is just like... okay... I'm sure there's a movie that's as boring as that for you to watch out there somewhere.
Frito_Pendejo
Member
Have been a fan of zombie movies my whole life. Oddly enough my favorite movie as a child was Return of the living Dead. My parents had it on Beta lol. So with that said, didn’t really care for this movie. So much of it just didn’t make sense. The visuals were cool and I think the acting was decent. I won’t say I hated it but just so much of it made me scratch my head. Character decision making was just baffling.
Is this a stand alone film or some sequel from something else ? A lot of these type of movies almost have the same wording in the titles and I don’t watch much TV most times so it can be a bit confusing.
In the mood for some brainless action flicks from time to time ( just be better than the last MK film but that’s shouldn’t be a very high bar to clear ).
In the mood for some brainless action flicks from time to time ( just be better than the last MK film but that’s shouldn’t be a very high bar to clear ).
It's stand-alone but they're working on an animated prequel, live action prequel and a sequel.
I just looked into it, it's not a zombie film, apparently a romantic comedy heist film, I guess just because they enjoyed the character so much.
he has the only death that isn't shown, he's closing the vault on the one guy to save him and as he does he's pulled away by the King zombie dude but you don't explicitly see him die which was weird because everyone else dies pretty explicitly
quickwhips
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Movie was ok but not as good as dawn of the dead. It was fun. Some dumb shit happens but it's the case with movies made today.
Pumpkin Seeds
Member
So I'm 20 minutes in and this is already bothering me:
That scene in the quarantine camp with the two girls. One girl is obviously planning to go into Vegas amongst the zombies just to rob a slot machine or something and the other girl is warning her against it. Then the second girl acts a little sassy to the guards and the girl planning to go into zombie city is all concerned and telling her to be careful. Like where the fuck is the consistency. This is all within a few minutes.
It makes no sense character wise. It's like the swapped personalities in the middle of the scene.
It makes no sense character wise. It's like the swapped personalities in the middle of the scene.
the reason she'd risk entering Vegas to get the money is because of people like that guard and the abuse they perpetuate. It's a movie about being stuck between a rock and a hard place with no good choices.
Dacon
CROM
Maybe, I actually don't remember now. Was meant to re-watch the movie tonight but my brother started falling asleep halfway in (just FYI he does this for every movie we watch, it's not because he thought it was boring haha) so I didn't finish. But yeah I can't picture that either.