Ant-Man and The Wasp: Quantumania - New Trailer

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Ferdinand the Cowfish said:
Then, why the hell hasn't Dr. Doom been in a film yet?
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That's what I'm saying! Lets face it, nobody cares about Kang and the MCU is faltering. Bringing in Doc Doom in a big way could revitalize it. Either that or Disney is suffering from burnout from the people who took the MCU off the ground 15 years ago and now they are just treading water.
 
Anyone feeling a bit of bait and switch here and we end up seeing Rudd "killed off" early in the film. If they are showing his fight with the big bad early on in the trailers what we are seeing isn't the ending.

Rudd sacrafices himself within the first 30 mins or so and the rest of the movie is Kate and Cassie.
 
cryptoadam said:
Anyone feeling a bit of bait and switch here and we end up seeing Rudd "killed off" early in the film. If they are showing his fight with the big bad early on in the trailers what we are seeing isn't the ending.

Rudd sacrafices himself within the first 30 mins or so and the rest of the movie is Kate and Cassie.
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I think that's just the way it is with modern trailers. That's why I don't watch them unless I don't care.

There's too much story for Rudd to die that early, that doesn't leave time for intro+set up+betrayal. However, it does seem like it has to be a loss in some way, because this is the introduction of the big villain from what I understand. If Ant-Man wins and this Kang isn't the main Kang, that could be a bit hollow.
Ferdinand the Cowfish said:
Then, why the hell hasn't Dr. Doom been in a film yet?
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I get the feeling they're getting through this adjustment period after losing all their good characters and an actor gearing up to be featured more, and the big guns (X-Men and F4) are being saved for when they want people to really give a shit again. Right now they seem to mostly be running off the limited license stuff they had before the acquisitions while they get everything settled, dripping in some new stuff via TV because that's the experimental phase.

If they get Doom right it could be very effective, but I think they need to give him the proper attention. He's not been done well before, so that needs to be overwritten.

Marvel introduced the crossovers on this scale, so we know it can be done. There's the potential for the crossovers to be even bigger now, and I'm sure it will happen because they want to milk this cash cow until it's dead and buried. But that must take some planning. F4 at the end of the current schedule isn't an accident.

Btw Quantumania still looks boring.
 
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I think it looks good tbh. This is what is should of been by the 4/5th movie of Phase 4 IMO, getting a proper main story. Not pretending were back in "season 1" of a TV show.

The trailer does appear to give too much away (virtually everything). Marvel trailers can be hit and miss in that regard. I remember telling my friend the Spiderman No Way Home plot all from the trailer... and I was right. But then you have trailers like the Endgame ones that gave virtually nothing away.

I think this is a case of the former however. Its no secret the MCU has lost some of its fire/momentum and this is a case of them getting the message out there that they are back on track.
 
Nikana said:
Saw it yesterday. Its pretty safe but I enjoyed it. Kang stole the show. No desire to own it or see it again.
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Right with ya.....Kang was awesome. The whole Quantum realm wasn't all that great as it seemed so disjointed from Kang's part to the other and the only time they intersect is when Antman is a Giant crushing through it. The lack of creative world building here is something I'd compare to what Ryan Coogler did with both Wakanda and Atlantis which were amazing, really wasn't all that interesting or something I'd ever want to revisit unlike Wakanda/Atlantis.

Really starting to feel like the bulk of these movies are fodder and the only context comes from the 1-2 minute end credit scenes which for all intents and purposes should been how the movie ended rather than during the credits. It's one thing if the End credits are a teaser, it's entirely different if they hold all the context of what this movie was based on and provide the adequate conclusion that should've existed prior to credits rolling.
 
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Right with ya.....Kang was awesome. The whole Quantum realm wasn't all that great as it seemed so disjointed from Kang's part to the other and the only time they intersect is when Antman is a Giant crushing through it. The lack of creative world building here is something I'd compare to what Ryan Coogler did with both Wakanda and Atlantis which were amazing, really wasn't all that interesting or something I'd ever want to revisit unlike Wakanda/Atlantis.

Really starting to feel like the bulk of these movies are fodder and the only context comes from the 1-2 minute end credit scenes which for all intents and purposes should been how the movie ended rather than during the credits. It's one thing if the End credits are a teaser, it's entirely different if they hold all the context of what this movie was based on and provide the adequate conclusion that should've existed prior to credits rolling.
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It was way too long for it to end where it did. The crew being dropped into this civil war warring that Janet just never talked about? Its oddly convenient. I can get over that aspect in order to introduce Kang but there was a lot of world building for no real payoff in the aspects of the Quantum Realm. In the end, the Quantum realm is just another place and nothing really about it was unique.
 
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Saw it tonight. It was pretty good but nothing amazing. It was perhaps more exciting because there was just as much chance the bad guy could win in this, like in Infinity War. The Avengers as in the group feel so disjointed since Endgame.

I feel like we should of just had 8 coherent movies in phase 4 with a strong story line through half of them. It will be too much of a slog to rewatch all of Phase 4, unlike 1-3 which I've seen many times.
 
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I am not going to watch this but I think it's safe to say that marvel phases 1-3 really were special. I hope this phase can find its footing but we will see. I am stoked to hear Kang is played well. Hopefully they do something with him.
 
Saw ant man and it was a solid b marvel movie. Took my son. I was more shocked they had a trailer for a horror movie with it after super Mario trailer.
 
This looks like trash. Kang looks bad even in trailers. Him and Antman getting into it one on one makes him look like a bitch.
 
Haven't seen the movie yet, but I assume Kang is as "whatever" as before?

Honestly, if it's true that Marvel has Dr Doom-rights, they should end the next Avengers-movie with Kang suddenly collapsing, some mysterious hooded dude next to him who pierced Kang's body. Kang saying: "Y-you know that there's many of me?" and the hooded guy reply "then let's change that". He does something and after a lot of cosmic effects and shit, we find out that the multiverses have all been destroyed and merged into one. That'd accomplish several things:

- byebye whateverKang
- establishing a powerful, badass villain
- possibly reviving some dead characters who slipped in from the multiverse-merging
- death meaning something again, now that there's only one universe
- an exciting plot finally again: the universe must be in chaos from the merging AND you have Victor Van Doom
- great entry point for Fantastic Four and X-Men
 
The last one got taken down so here is a reupload of the best acted scene in any movie ever made

 
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