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DonDonDonPata
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backwards compatible with cartridges or bust
if there's a "boost" to Switch games, that would be a nice bonus
if there's a "boost" to Switch games, that would be a nice bonus
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Sources: Nintendo showed Switch 2 demos at Gamescom | VGC
The company is understood to have held private tech demos, ahead of an expected 2024 launch…
Core of what would be an ideal Switch 2 Lineup for me:
Reverse Compatibility with Switch titles minimum.
Ace Attorney: Miles Edgeworth Investigations 1/2
Astral Chain 2
Bravely Default DX
Bravely Second DX
Bravely Third
Baldur's Gate 3 (Big if on just what the Switch 2 will be using. Not likely.)
Bayonetta 4
Chrono Trigger HD-2D Remake
Crimson Desert
Dragons Crown Pro Port
Dragons Dogma II
Dragon Quest XII: Flames of Fate
Dragon Quest Trilogy HD-2D Remake
Dragon Quest Zenithia Trilogy HD-2D Remake
Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War Remake
Fire Emblem Three Houses Gold
Fire Emblem Three Houses 2
Fire Emblem: Awakening DX
Fire Emblem: Shadow of Valentina DX
Final Fantasy VI HD-2D Remake
New F-Zero because fans would still love it and buy it regardless of Mario Kart existing
Grenblue Fantasy Relink
Greedfall II: The Dying World
Kid Icarus Uprising Remake
Kirby
Luigi's Mansion 4
Metroid Prime IV
Metroid Prime Remastered Trilogy
Metroid VII
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
Octopath Traveler III
Octopath Traveler IV
Persona 6
Pokemon ??? & ???
Pokemon Legends Celebi
Pokemon Ivory White and Ebony Black
Radiant Historia DX
Shin Megami Tensei VI
Skies of Arcadia Remake
Super Mario Galactic Odyssey
Super Smash Brothers: Infinity
Super Mario Kart IX
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Duology DX
Starfox but actually good
Tales of the Abyss DX
Tales of Phantasia DX
Vanilaware Next Fantasy Title
Valkyria Chronicles V
Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition
Xenoblade Chronicles X2
Xenoblade Saga
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Remake
The Legend of Zelda: Majoras Mask Remake
The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess HD
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
The Legend of Zelda: Adventure of Link Remake/Spiritual Successor
The Legend of Zelda: BotW/TotK/???
Astral Chain 2
Bravely Default DX
Bravely Second DX
Bravely Third
Baldur's Gate 3 (Big if on just what the Switch 2 will be using. Not likely.)
Bayonetta 4
Chrono Trigger HD-2D Remake
Crimson Desert
Dragons Crown Pro Port
Dragons Dogma II
Dragon Quest XII: Flames of Fate
Dragon Quest Trilogy HD-2D Remake
Dragon Quest Zenithia Trilogy HD-2D Remake
Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War Remake
Fire Emblem Three Houses Gold
Fire Emblem Three Houses 2
Fire Emblem: Awakening DX
Fire Emblem: Shadow of Valentina DX
Final Fantasy VI HD-2D Remake
New F-Zero because fans would still love it and buy it regardless of Mario Kart existing
Grenblue Fantasy Relink
Greedfall II: The Dying World
Kid Icarus Uprising Remake
Kirby
Luigi's Mansion 4
Metroid Prime IV
Metroid Prime Remastered Trilogy
Metroid VII
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir
Octopath Traveler III
Octopath Traveler IV
Persona 6
Pokemon ??? & ???
Pokemon Legends Celebi
Pokemon Ivory White and Ebony Black
Radiant Historia DX
Shin Megami Tensei VI
Skies of Arcadia Remake
Super Mario Galactic Odyssey
Super Smash Brothers: Infinity
Super Mario Kart IX
Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Survivor Duology DX
Starfox but actually good
Tales of the Abyss DX
Tales of Phantasia DX
Vanilaware Next Fantasy Title
Valkyria Chronicles V
Xenoblade Chronicles X: Definitive Edition
Xenoblade Chronicles X2
Xenoblade Saga
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time Remake
The Legend of Zelda: Majoras Mask Remake
The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess HD
The Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker HD
The Legend of Zelda: Adventure of Link Remake/Spiritual Successor
The Legend of Zelda: BotW/TotK/???
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teezzy
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Im honestly not ready 
Gonna work througu my current Switch backlog first before i even think of grabbing one
Gonna work througu my current Switch backlog first before i even think of grabbing one
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Im honestly not ready
Gonna work througu my current Switch backlog first before i even think of grabbing one
I'm going to wait out a Switch 2 Lite revision.
Plenty of games to work through already, and I deeply regret being impatient and not having waited for the Lite the first time around. If they end up releasing an OLED Lite or just dropping the regular Lite price to 100 quid-ish, I'll get that instead to help tide me over.
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I don't remember either console truly showcasing much in the way of ray tracing... but we Nintendo faithful will take it! lol
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teezzy
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Sounds about right
I didnt jump back into Switch until OLED revision. Was majorly disappointed at launch and learned my lesson after trading it in.
What excites me most about this news is knowing I'll be able to CFW my current Switch sooner than later without worry of consequence. It's gonna be one hell of an emulation device
Hardensoul
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Still need to temper my expectations! I remember all the Switch rumors. And most previous Nintendo console rumors. They've mostly been underpowered after reveal! 
Optimus
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I think I'm interested in following your journey into this. I'm pretty sure our remaining Switch is bound for GameStop for store credit as soon as Switch 2 preorders hit, and I'll happily scoop up lots of credit for any Switch games I don't care to keep too. I seriously got my Switch, pro controller, and 2 Switch games for like my Wii U + several games + $100. Felt like a good deal.
Sounds great, Nvidia bringing their raytracing and DLSS goodness to the Switch will pay off big time.
Exciting! My GM was at GamesCom.... I might have to 'casually' ask about it.
But this part kind of bothers me:
Is it really comparable to XSX and PS5? OR is it more aligned with the XSS which also runs the demo fairly well, but at a noticeably lower fidelity. Because I cannot see how any portable device can be putting out visuals comparable to 10-12TF consoles. Knowing nothing but NVIDIA's public roadmap, I was expecting the Switch Successor to be in the 2-3TF territory. Yes NVIDIA to AMD is not the same FLOP for FLOP but this would be one hell of an achievement if it was actually comparable to XSX and PS5. To avoid being disappointed (a la WiiU) I am going to keep my expectation until proven wrong.
For refernce on the difference:
But this part kind of bothers me:
Is it really comparable to XSX and PS5? OR is it more aligned with the XSS which also runs the demo fairly well, but at a noticeably lower fidelity. Because I cannot see how any portable device can be putting out visuals comparable to 10-12TF consoles. Knowing nothing but NVIDIA's public roadmap, I was expecting the Switch Successor to be in the 2-3TF territory. Yes NVIDIA to AMD is not the same FLOP for FLOP but this would be one hell of an achievement if it was actually comparable to XSX and PS5. To avoid being disappointed (a la WiiU) I am going to keep my expectation until proven wrong.
For refernce on the difference:
Hardensoul
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If Switch 2 continues with Tegra and no DLSS this would be huge failure. Tegra has to come with DLSS, if not why even go with NVIDIA.
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Is it sad that I'm more excited about this than anything Sony or Microsoft are doing?
MildWolverine
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Better source, not worth it's own thread.
www.eurogamer.net
Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom
In Cologne last month, Nintendo's public Gamescom showfloor booth let you play Pikmin 4 and Super Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. …
www.eurogamer.net
Hardensoul
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Better source, not worth it's own thread.
Nintendo demoed Switch 2 to developers at Gamescom
In Cologne last month, Nintendo's public Gamescom showfloor booth let you play Pikmin 4 and Super Mario Kart 8 Deluxe. …
Well the link in OP already source link to Eurogamer.
Chozofication
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It's most likely going to be between 1 and 1 and a half teraflops. Docked. That's my conservative estimate so i'm not disappointed anyway, looking at tegra Orin configurations.
Which will still produce incredible results.
Food for thought. Well it's certainly not going to run a ps5 game at the same fps and resolution.
BUT. Look at how ps5 games are using piss poor upscaling techniques like fsr. Such games could actually look better on switch 2 despite having a lower native resolution.
And then you have Nintendo's own games which the art will be made for the hardware specifically with all the Nvidia advantages in mind. I mean seriously something like Luigi's mansion 4 is going to look like, nobody will be sitting there saying I wish it was on more powerful hardware.. these games will turn heads.
So we can really have games that look better than the competition, but something like returnal if it were hypothetically ported is going to look poor in comparison to the ps5 version, no way around it.
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I wonder how much ram it will have. Nintendo were pressured into using 4gb on switch by capcom instead of the 3gb they wanted to use.
Hopefully someone pressures them into using 16gb instead of 12gb. If it really has 16gb, it will have more ram available for games than ps5 because undoubtedly the OS wouldn't use as much as ps5.
Hopefully someone pressures them into using 16gb instead of 12gb. If it really has 16gb, it will have more ram available for games than ps5 because undoubtedly the OS wouldn't use as much as ps5.
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12TF is for targeting 4K@60. If you target 1080@30, suddenly your compute load is cut to a fourth. It's the same trick the Steam Deck uses, except then you add dedicated Tensor cores for DLSS upscaling instead of running everything on the same compute power like FSR does. Meaning you can actually render at 720@60, and DLSS picks the slack up to 1080@60, which is basically peanuts for the tech compared to the sorcery it can actually pull off at low resolutions.
People actually expect Nintendo to put out a state of the art hardware? It's going to be weaker than Steam Deck, but it will have some kind of gimmick.
Still need to temper my expectations! I remember all the Switch rumors. And most previous Nintendo console rumors. They've mostly been underpowered after reveal!
They literally are. The voltage, heat/cooling etc. prevent it from being a competitor to desktop consoles power wise.
Steam Deck is already around the right price range for Switch 2, but with the disadvantages of using AMD hardware and not have the economy of scale Nintendo can leverage.
I'm expecting SD to be the minimum power we can expect, slightly higher at the same or even a slightly lower price being real possibilities, which would put it closer to the ballpark of performance to target resolution that the XSS and potentially able to leverage DLSS to give great visuals even on a 4K display.
You can get absolutely amazing results out of SD, basically running everything via emulation. With the results studios showed were possible with the Switch 1, I would expect results for properly optimised software on the Switch 2 to be genuinely impressive.
Of course I could just be making the.opposute mistake to the one I made last gen. I was convinced the first Switch was going to be a disaster, which was the single biggest error in judgement I've ever had about gaming, so perhaps I'm over compensating with optimism now.
DonDonDonPata
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Switch got Witcher 3, modern DOOM, and Skyrim. I'd expect Switch 2 to get a lot of "mediocre" ports of all the biggest hits from this gen: Elden Ring, C2077, Baldur's Gate 3, Final Fantasy 7R, FF 16, Hogwarts, etc, all sold at a premium price, all benefitting from dat handheld accessibility
If they can bring more tactical and 4x strategy games from the PC over, Switch 2 would cover some of the same ground as Steam deck without... you know... having to use Steam
If they can bring more tactical and 4x strategy games from the PC over, Switch 2 would cover some of the same ground as Steam deck without... you know... having to use Steam
cryptoadam
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Same song and dance. Rumors about it being super poweful then the system actually launches and its 3 years behind on tech. Every time.
Its gonna be a 3 year old chip with DLSS 1.5 running at half the speed with a cheap LCD and no back compat.
This is Nintendo they will not sell their system at a loss so they will use old parts that Nvidia has lying around.
All that is true, but it will still have a 50/50 chance of being the best gaming system this gen regardless.
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Chozofication
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I never noticed you were such a low quality troll before recently.
Do you really only game on playstation?
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I would love for Nintendo to release a system that is cutting edge but lets temper out expectations we know what its going to be.
and yup i only have a PS. I used to have an Gamecube back in the day and a Wii, but since then its been PS3/4/5.
I remember the Wii days and rumors about how its going to be powerful etc.... We know how that turned out.
Regardless of the power it can still be a great system with great games and impossible ports. But I don't think people should hype themselves up that its going to have cuttine edge tech, especially when you look at Sony/MS and their systems are already out of date and can barely handle RT with 60FPS and high resoltuion. Asking Nintendo to sell a machine that will do 4K, RT, at 299-349 and be portable as well is just asking for disapointment.
The best hope is that its Series S power levels with a screen slapped onto it and using some form of close to up to date DLSS.
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I haven't seen anyone here including myself saying the chip will be the absolute latest from Nvidia.
However as I pointed to earlier, that it could likely be a 2021 chip based on ampere (rtx 3000) for some reason you're being tech illiterately negative saying it can't even get dlss 2, that runs on 2018 rtx cards.
I wouldn't say you're trolling if you told me hey I think it's going to be an overclocked switch without rtx stuff. I'd strongly disagree, but i'd say fair enough.
It's one thing to say Nintendo will cheap out, but another to say they'll go out of their way to use older software (dlss) that won't save them money anyway.
It also really really doesn't need to be the absolute latest thing.
Here's a question not necessarily directed at you ; if ps4 games looked great, why would you talk down a more powerful system? Does nothing ever really look impressive to these people and they're just hyped about the latest thing?
It's an attitude that shows a lack of appreciation for the art of a game, if every time a new hardware comes out, the old games suddenly look bad.
In that case, they either never looked good to begin with, or people really just play the latest thing because it's new.
I'm often impressed and appreciate switch game visuals. Sometimes not so much, but that's the case on ps5 as well. Like that generic looking EA game on ps5 that's unreal engine 5 and 720p fsr lol.
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I being more in jest about dlss 1.5. But i dont think nintendo is going to have the most up to date DLSS. I think they will have some strange custom version that will run on the slightly custom chip they will have that wont be DLSS 2 or 3 but some kind of version that has bits and pieces and will also only work on Nintendo hardware.
And i am not saying the switch wont have good looking games. Internal Nintendo teams will make their games look good.
I just dont see them having hardware that is cutting edge and can run games at 4K 60 with all the bells and whistles that are modern games.
I agree on a 3 or 4 year old chip.
Again if we know nintendo they arent cutting edge they dont push hardware and they dont sell systems at a loss.
The system will be at the power level somewhere between PS4 and XSS but with DLSS and some modern features that werent in the PS4 Or PS4pro. It will run downports of some of the bigger games from the last year or 2 and Nintendo will be able to upscale their ports and probably make some great looking games that run at 4K.
But ya I am not buying these back compat 12 GB of ram running games that look as good as PS5 etc....
Anyways the real comparison is going to be with machines like the steam deck and ROG alley.
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I cant wait for all the switch ports that were originally wiiu ports. My switch spends like 93% of its time sitting unused these days. It truly feels like there's fuck all that's interesting being released for it. For the past few years at least.
Where the hell is my Mario Party Superstars dlc Nintendo.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but 4k@60 <===> 1080p@30 is way more than 4x the difference. Isn't it 8x+?
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Why mediocre? I don't think Switch got many mediocre ports. A lot of them seemed to rely on magic to even run. lol