PC market experiences "sharpest decline in nine years"

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The PC market has experienced its "sharpest decline in nine years" during Q2 2022, according to the latest report from research firm Gartner.

PC shipments declined 12.6% during Q2 2022 compared to the same period last year, for a total of 72 million units shipped.

Mikako Kitagawa, research director at Gartner, explained the geopolitical and economic reasons behind this drop:

"The decline we saw in the first quarter of 2022 has accelerated in the second quarter, driven by the ongoing geopolitical instability caused by the Russian Invasion of Ukraine, inflationary pressure on spending and a steep downturn in demand for Chromebooks.
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Supply chain disruptions also continued, but the major cause of PC delivery delays changed from component shortages to logistics disruptions. Enterprise buyers continued to experience longer PC delivery times than usual, but the lead times began to improve by the end of the second quarter, partially because key cities in China reopened in the middle of the quarter."

Looking at data for various PC vendors, only Apple experienced growth in its shipments during Q2 2022, with sales up 9.3% year-on-year. HP is the vendor that experienced the sharpest decline, with shipments down 27.5%. The company with the biggest market share, Lenovo, also saw a 12.5% drop in shipments year-on-year.

The EMEA region was the one that was most impacted by the market decline, with PC shipments dropping 18% year-on-year, and laptop shipments decreasing 20%.
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Separately from the Gartner data, a report from DFC Intelligence highlighted the slow growth of the PC market in 2021, with sales only up 2% to $37 million globally.

DFC noted that this remained 20% higher than pre-pandemic levels though, and predicted stagnant growth over the next three years.

It added that Tencent and NetEase were the largest PC game publishers "with combined 2021 revenue up 10% to $9.6 billion."
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The supply chain strikes again.
 
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Even if I had the spare cash to build myself a new monster right now, I'm not sure I want to navigate the shitfield right now anyway.
 
Grinchy said:
Even if I had the spare cash to build myself a new monster right now, I'm not sure I want to navigate the shitfield right now anyway.
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GPU prices are finally reasonable again! Great time (relative to the last couple of years) to pick up a 3080.
 
I mean.. what do you expect when no one can afford shit because they either don't have a job or the hardware is so expensive because cryptotards keep buying up everything because they gotta mine that imaginary coin! Idiots. Look at where that got them. BC is crashing and now China is trying to get rid of all the GPUs they snatched up.
 
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Grinchy said:
Even if I had the spare cash to build myself a new monster right now, I'm not sure I want to navigate the shitfield right now anyway.
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What's got you worried about it, out of curiosity?

CPUs, GPUs, SSDs, DDR5 and even motherboards dropped in price this year, most of them by significant amounts. Manufacturers and the media have done a very poor job broadcasting this and in some cases gave the public the impression the opposite would happen.
 
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What's "reasonable" though? If it's 30% above MSRP for a card that was already overpriced the day it came out, then that is just too hard to swallow for me.
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You can get the 12GB version for a bit under MSRP now.

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I saw the 8GB versions on sale a week or two ago, too.

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I just hope MSRP isn't as high as has been reported. At this point, I'm waiting to get that too.
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Probably going to be higher and extremely stock limited, to be honest.
 
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Joe T. said:
What's got you worried about it, out of curiosity?

CPUs, GPUs, SSDs, DDR5 and even motherboards dropped in price this year, most of them by significant amounts. Manufacturers and the media have done a very poor job broadcasting this and in some cases gave the public the impression the opposite would happen.
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Just the nightmare I went through last year when building my brother a PC for his birthday. I ended up in a situation where I had his entire PC built and was checking stock trackers all day trying to get the damn GPU. Me and his wife teamed up on it for him. Couldn't get it. Had to give him a GPU-less PC for his birthday and then enlist him in the hunt for the next 2 months.

I haven't looked at the situation since then out of annoyance, but the last time I saw people talking about how the situation had improved were talking about how the cards were "only" 20% above MSRP lol. So I wouldn't have known the prices had actually returned to normal by today.
 
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I haven't looked at the situation since then out of annoyance, but the last time I saw people talking about how the situation had improved were talking about how the cards were "only" 20% above MSRP lol. So I wouldn't have known the prices had actually returned to normal by today.
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I think they are actually slightly below MSRP at this point, depending on the card.

Jayztwocents had a good video on the subject last week but the gist of it was that GPU manufacturers were going full-bore to meet demand because of crypto, then crypto crashed and now the market is suddenly flooded with cards, relatively close to the time when the 4000 series cards are going to be announced.

I have a 3080 FE but I'm still seriously thinking about picking up a 3090 TI. Right now the cost/value ratio is great and I suspect that the demand for 4000 series cards is going to be really high if/when they release this year. The 3090 TI will last me until the mid-4000 generation when the 4000 series TIs are released.

The 3080 FE is still a great card, performance wise but there are other 3080s on the market with more memory, and I suspect that added memory is going to be important next generation.
 
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I think they are actually slightly below MSRP at this point, depending on the card.

Jayztwocents had a good video on the subject last week but the gist of it was that GPU manufacturers were going full-bore to meet demand because of crypto, then crypto crashed and now the market is suddenly flooded with cards, relatively close to the time when the 4000 series cards are going to be announced.

I have a 3080 FE but I'm still seriously thinking about picking up a 3090 TI. Right now the cost/value ratio is great and I suspect that the demand for 4000 series cards is going to be really high if/when they release this year. The 3090 TI will last me until the mid-4000 generation when the 4000 series TIs are released.

The 3080 FE is still a great card, performance wise but there are other 3080s on the market with more memory, and I suspect that added memory is going to be important next generation.
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I just have to wonder if we get another wave of GPU hysteria when crypto rebounds. I hope not as I would really like to build a new PC one day and not when I'm 50.
 
zebraStraw said:
I had no idea Lenovo was the market leader.
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A few years ago I bought some welfare $600 (cad lol) laptop and was shocked at how good the buipd quality was and parts inside used were. I just ordered a Legion 5i that was part of a pretty decent sale at Microsoft based on the good experience of the previous Lenovo.

This is only tangentially related to your comment but I thought it allowed me to show my excitement over this new low to mid range "gaming" laptop I just purchased.
 
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Good, maybe this will lead to cheaper prices and some actual innovation besides pumping out basically the same hardware clocked higher. I used to be on of those sucker's thinking I needed a new GPU/CPU every generation until realizing my current setup is still very capable, I've been using a RTX 2070 for like 4 years and it still does everything I need and want it to do.
 
I probably could make the new PC 1000 euros cheaper now than I did in February, but I played Elden Ring in 4K/60, so it was worth the cost.
 
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