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This movie apparently cost 75 million to make and thats before marketing.

According to the article it made under 5 million in its opening week.

It was super obvious that it was going to fail especially with its terrible, we are a women action movie, thats why you should see us marketing.

So honestly, why does this trash get made?

I doubt woke garbage like this does much better on streaming platforms, but they can atleast hide the numbers

So how do studio's find the capital to keep making these bombs? Are they subsidized by other movies and seen as movie reparations? Or is Hollywood dillusional enough to think its going to succeed?
 
I made a hype thread for that movie because I was very much a lot very sincerely looking forward to it:


So I'm rather offended by your negative take on it. Could the reason be that you're intimidated by such stronk females???? Feel threatened? Your toxic masculinity is crumbling?
 
There's an investment firm called Blackrock that has something like a 4 Trillion dollar warchest it uses to invest in any business that meets its DIE requirements.

This seems to be why no big businesses give a shit that the public hates this woke bollocks. It literally doesn't matter if no-one normal is buying, because until that Blackrock well runs dry, we are not the customer they're making these things for.
 
I watched Ava with Jessica Chastain a while back on Netflix or Amazon and tbh I thought she was good in it (I like her as an actress) but the plot was sub-par and the fights not a patch on Bourne or Atomic Blonde, which I think is half the problem because they're the kind of benchmark for these things. I suspect the 355 failed because unfortunately because there likely was never actually a market for it with the female demographic, however, the various suits in Hollywood haven't quite realised this. They're caught in the Algorithm to the extent that they think noise on Twitter is somehow reflective of actual market interest.
 
I watched Ava with Jessica Chastain a while back on Netflix or Amazon and tbh I thought she was good in it (I like her as an actress) but the plot was sub-par and the fights not a patch on Bourne or Atomic Blonde, which I think is half the problem because they're the kind of benchmark for these things. I suspect the 355 failed because unfortunately because there likely was never actually a market for it with the female demographic, however, the various suits in Hollywood haven't quite realised this. They're caught in the Algorithm to the extent that they think noise on Twitter is somehow reflective of actual market interest.

Be honest, you like her as a redhead.
 
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I think she's a bit more strawberry blonde than traditional redhead, but yeah I like her. Although she's a goddamn Vegan in RL so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Still. I do think she's a decent actress. I enjoyed her in Mollys Game and Ms Sloane. She can certainly carry a lead role.
 
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Why does any corporation willingly go woke and broke?

Not sure what Blackstones involvement is when it comes to investment in film, but 'Ethical Investing' is it's known is become a bigger and bigger factor, with various funds requiring companies hit certain criteria before they'll invest in them, or loan them money at favourable rates (which is what they all want). It's fucking absurd, because it's driven by company wants that are at best questionable to say the least. Unless governments actually get involved though it's hard to see an end to it, outside of a massive global market crash which would mean rules get thrown out the window.
 
Not sure what Blackstones involvement is when it comes to investment in film, but 'Ethical Investing' is it's known is become a bigger and bigger factor, with various funds requiring companies hit certain criteria before they'll invest in them, or loan them money at favourable rates (which is what they all want). It's fucking absurd, because it's driven by company wants that are at best questionable to say the least. Unless governments actually get involved though it's hard to see an end to it, outside of a massive global market crash which would mean rules get thrown out the window.
It's Blackstone and Blackrock that do it, but I think Blackrock is the bigger of the two in this regard (and yes, those two big investment companies with near identical names being in such similar lines of work is bloody confusing to me too). They're far from the only ones of course, but one of them really is pumping a FUCKTON of cash into these woke corporate endeavours, that's allowing the mind virus to spread in direct opposition to normal market forces.
 
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I think she's a bit more strawberry blonde than traditional redhead, but yeah I like her. Although she's a goddamn Vegan in RL so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Still. I do think she's a decent actress. I enjoyed her in Mollys Game and Ms Sloane. She can certainly carry a lead role.
I bet she like some meat lollipop 😂
 
Holy shit, it's so obvious from this trailer that the movie was going to be utterly awful.

 
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Atleast its not Charlies Angels 2019..............right? right..........
Oh lord I deleted that ones existence from my memory. It looked like dog shit scraped from a shoe. But crazy thing is that it did almost twice as well opening weekend.
 
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Related. Basically an investment fund is pissed at Unilever for focusing on sustainability and other modern bollocks over just making products, calling out things like the Ben & Jerry's Israel thing, etc. It's getting noticed.
 

Related. Basically an investment fund is pissed at Unilever for focusing on sustainability and other modern bollocks over just making products, calling out things like the Ben & Jerry's Israel thing, etc. It's getting noticed.
A similar thing happened in Brazil with Bradesco, one of the biggest banks here. They made a commercial talking about sustainability and they hired some retarded woke influencers who told people to eat less meat and skip meat on mondays. Basically, all their agribusiness clients withdrawed their accounts from the bank prompting them to beg and apologize because the money they get from them is huge.
 
Holy shit, it's so obvious from this trailer that the movie was going to be utterly awful.


Going by the trailer it would have been a shit movie had it been all men, too, so throwing in the niche angle of all women agents was a death sentence. 75mil is a huge waste of money, are we sure it wasn't a money laundering project?

Say what you like about his movies, at least when Dwayne plays an agent you don't doubt the physical stuff half as much.
 
It's Blackstone and Blackrock that do it, but I think Blackrock is the bigger of the two in this regard (and yes, those two big investment companies with near identical names being in such similar lines of work is bloody confusing to me too). They're far from the only ones of course, but one of them really is pumping a FUCKTON of cash into these woke corporate endeavours, that's allowing the mind virus to spread in direct opposition to normal market forces.
But there has got to be some way, some legal way, to put a stop to this. It's terrible, and in many ways it's destructive what they're doing. That much money sitting in one pile being used to sway all of capitalism is just incredibly dangerous. And I don't prefer the alternative, either.
 

This movie apparently cost 75 million to make and thats before marketing.

According to the article it made under 5 million in its opening week.

It was super obvious that it was going to fail especially with its terrible, we are a women action movie, thats why you should see us marketing.

So honestly, why does this trash get made?

I doubt woke garbage like this does much better on streaming platforms, but they can atleast hide the numbers

So how do studio's find the capital to keep making these bombs? Are they subsidized by other movies and seen as movie reparations? Or is Hollywood dillusional enough to think its going to succeed?
"Are they subsidized by other movies and seen as movie reparations?"

Pretty sure you nailed it.

Behind the scenes this probably looks like more "traditional" projects will only be funded if there is an agreement to produce some of these special interest projects on the side. So yeah we'll give you a big investment for Movie X but only if you spend a % of that on this other project we want to push.

I think Christopher Nolan did something like this for those Batman movies where he would only agree to do one of them if they agreed to let him do his own thing on some other project. I can see something like that happening but with diversity.

Basically investors telling studios etc "you can go and play AFTER you've done your homework".

Movies like this also will be able to pad out the library on streaming platforms.
I think if you have a streaming platform then a certain amount of budget needs to go towards just making more content regardless of quality. Otherwise there just isn't enough content.

Disney+ is kind of like that I think. They are committed to just churning out loads of series with 6 to 8 episodes each because it artificially inflates the size of the library. Yes you could have one season of Loki that's 12 episodes and then a 2nd season of 12 episodes but that will show up and one thumbnail on your list. Better to have 4 different "shows" with six episodes each so that the library looks stacked.

They know that this stuff is trash but it really doesn't matter because what they want are subscribers. They want people to feel like the platform is constantly getting more and more new stuff and it's all super diverse and so you'd better stay subscribed if you don't want to miss out.

I'm old enough to remember when internet porno was basically big fuck off lists of text links with maybe a thumbnail if you were lucky and clips were like 90 seconds long. Yes, a universe of porn at your fingertips but the real quest was trying to find the perfect clip and have it ready for when you're ready to fire off the lamb cannon. Fuckin, spending hours and hours just browsing through some pretty distressing stuff, "seen it, seen it, this is the same clip as the last one", fat women, women with pussies like burst sofas, old saggy tits, the odd trans clip incorrectly categorized, scenes filmed with unimaginably poor quality cameras. Sometimes spending as much as 10 minutes keeping the engine running while you open yet another clip that looks like a collection of pinkish pixels being mashed together to a soundtrack of abattoir-esque moans. Edging and edging for what felt like an eternity just looking for the perfect, and I mean absolutely fucking perfect, clip. Worrying that the connection might go down and you're left with the bluest balls in history. Praying to every god that is, was and ever will be that your parents don't come home early then desperately trying to clean the shiny new family computer desk when you do.

Not like nowadays where the clips are all nicely lined up with nice thumbnails that even give a glimpse of the content contained within and an idea of the timing too.

Modern streaming services are basically like browsing mid to late 90s internet porn. I bet most users just spend hours browsing all the different thumbnails. They have my respect for somehow managing to monetize that experience.
 
"Are they subsidized by other movies and seen as movie reparations?"

Pretty sure you nailed it.

Behind the scenes this probably looks like more "traditional" projects will only be funded if there is an agreement to produce some of these special interest projects on the side. So yeah we'll give you a big investment for Movie X but only if you spend a % of that on this other project we want to push.

I think Christopher Nolan did something like this for those Batman movies where he would only agree to do one of them if they agreed to let him do his own thing on some other project. I can see something like that happening but with diversity.

Basically investors telling studios etc "you can go and play AFTER you've done your homework".

Movies like this also will be able to pad out the library on streaming platforms.
I think if you have a streaming platform then a certain amount of budget needs to go towards just making more content regardless of quality. Otherwise there just isn't enough content.

Disney+ is kind of like that I think. They are committed to just churning out loads of series with 6 to 8 episodes each because it artificially inflates the size of the library. Yes you could have one season of Loki that's 12 episodes and then a 2nd season of 12 episodes but that will show up and one thumbnail on your list. Better to have 4 different "shows" with six episodes each so that the library looks stacked.

They know that this stuff is trash but it really doesn't matter because what they want are subscribers. They want people to feel like the platform is constantly getting more and more new stuff and it's all super diverse and so you'd better stay subscribed if you don't want to miss out.

I'm old enough to remember when internet porno was basically big fuck off lists of text links with maybe a thumbnail if you were lucky and clips were like 90 seconds long. Yes, a universe of porn at your fingertips but the real quest was trying to find the perfect clip and have it ready for when you're ready to fire off the lamb cannon. Fuckin, spending hours and hours just browsing through some pretty distressing stuff, "seen it, seen it, this is the same clip as the last one", fat women, women with pussies like burst sofas, old saggy tits, the odd trans clip incorrectly categorized, scenes filmed with unimaginably poor quality cameras. Sometimes spending as much as 10 minutes keeping the engine running while you open yet another clip that looks like a collection of pinkish pixels being mashed together to a soundtrack of abattoir-esque moans. Edging and edging for what felt like an eternity just looking for the perfect, and I mean absolutely fucking perfect, clip. Worrying that the connection might go down and you're left with the bluest balls in history. Praying to every god that is, was and ever will be that your parents don't come home early then desperately trying to clean the shiny new family computer desk when you do.

Not like nowadays where the clips are all nicely lined up with nice thumbnails that even give a glimpse of the content contained within and an idea of the timing too.

Modern streaming services are basically like browsing mid to late 90s internet porn. I bet most users just spend hours browsing all the different thumbnails. They have my respect for somehow managing to monetize that experience.
That whole post and I'm too busy laughing at "fire off the lamb cannon" to pay attention to the rest. Fuck, that caught me off guard.
 
Is not watching modern films the new normal ?
For me it is. I have always caught the classic movie that would play on syndication growing up. Godzilla to War of the Worlds, old westerns, etc. As I got older I would watch Turner Classic Movies channel on cable when an actor or actress I liked would be in a movie.

Fast forward to about 2007, I saw the writing on the wall and started to buy up as many DVD's and Blu Rays as I could of the Silver age films up to my rare favorites that somehow made it through the Hollywood gauntlet trash heap.

Last great movies I watched over the holidays were:

Strange Affair of Uncle Harry - 1945 (Well acted romance drama with Ella Raines, who was later married by the bad assed Robin Olds who was not only a WWII Ace, but responsible for putting the hurt on the North Vietnamese and Russian attaches in Vietnam [this guy could have a movie all to himself from his exploits])

The Man Who Would Be King - 1975 (Michael Caine and Sean Connery, Rudyard Kiplings fantastic adventure WATCH THIS BEFORE YOU DIE, if you already haven't)

Holiday Affair - 1949 (Robert Mitchum plays a non-tough guy, but with his trademark style in what is an appropriate holiday romance movie with some charm)

The Asphalt Jungle - 1950 (This movie set the bar for heist films, it has been cribbed by so many since, it can be considered source material. Fantastic Noir filming which makes it more than just a heist film)

I pretty much look at 1001 movies to see before you die and connect the dots on what I want to watch based on genre, director (Ford, Huston, Capra, Wilder, Hitchock etc...), actors (Cagney, Bogart, Mitchum, Cooper, Wayne, Eastwood, etc...) and get a feel for where I want to spend my entertainment time. There is so much quality here because it pre-dates overuse of special effects and relies upon story, plot, writing and talent from the actors, stuntmen, directors, etc... You will need to have an attention span that modern media has worked so very hard to erode, but once you get it, you will be rewarded and from a time when Hollywood wasn't wholly against you or your country.
 
For me it is. I have always caught the classic movie that would play on syndication growing up. Godzilla to War of the Worlds, old westerns, etc. As I got older I would watch Turner Classic Movies channel on cable when an actor or actress I liked would be in a movie.

Fast forward to about 2007, I saw the writing on the wall and started to buy up as many DVD's and Blu Rays as I could of the Silver age films up to my rare favorites that somehow made it through the Hollywood gauntlet trash heap.

Last great movies I watched over the holidays were:

Strange Affair of Uncle Harry - 1945 (Well acted romance drama with Ella Raines, who was later married by the bad assed Robin Olds who was not only a WWII Ace, but responsible for putting the hurt on the North Vietnamese and Russian attaches in Vietnam [this guy could have a movie all to himself from his exploits])

The Man Who Would Be King - 1975 (Michael Caine and Sean Connery, Rudyard Kiplings fantastic adventure WATCH THIS BEFORE YOU DIE, if you already haven't)

Holiday Affair - 1949 (Robert Mitchum plays a non-tough guy, but with his trademark style in what is an appropriate holiday romance movie with some charm)

The Asphalt Jungle - 1950 (This movie set the bar for heist films, it has been cribbed by so many since, it can be considered source material. Fantastic Noir filming which makes it more than just a heist film)

I pretty much look at 1001 movies to see before you die and connect the dots on what I want to watch based on genre, director (Ford, Huston, Capra, Wilder, Hitchock etc...), actors (Cagney, Bogart, Mitchum, Cooper, Wayne, Eastwood, etc...) and get a feel for where I want to spend my entertainment time. There is so much quality here because it pre-dates overuse of special effects and relies upon story, plot, writing and talent from the actors, stuntmen, directors, etc... You will need to have an attention span that modern media has worked so very hard to erode, but once you get it, you will be rewarded and from a time when Hollywood wasn't wholly against you or your country.
Those films you listed look amazing and can't say I've ever seen them. Definitely will give them a watch as I can't stand modern cinema.
 
For me it is. I have always caught the classic movie that would play on syndication growing up. Godzilla to War of the Worlds, old westerns, etc. As I got older I would watch Turner Classic Movies channel on cable when an actor or actress I liked would be in a movie.

Fast forward to about 2007, I saw the writing on the wall and started to buy up as many DVD's and Blu Rays as I could of the Silver age films up to my rare favorites that somehow made it through the Hollywood gauntlet trash heap.

Last great movies I watched over the holidays were:

Strange Affair of Uncle Harry - 1945 (Well acted romance drama with Ella Raines, who was later married by the bad assed Robin Olds who was not only a WWII Ace, but responsible for putting the hurt on the North Vietnamese and Russian attaches in Vietnam [this guy could have a movie all to himself from his exploits])

The Man Who Would Be King - 1975 (Michael Caine and Sean Connery, Rudyard Kiplings fantastic adventure WATCH THIS BEFORE YOU DIE, if you already haven't)

Holiday Affair - 1949 (Robert Mitchum plays a non-tough guy, but with his trademark style in what is an appropriate holiday romance movie with some charm)

The Asphalt Jungle - 1950 (This movie set the bar for heist films, it has been cribbed by so many since, it can be considered source material. Fantastic Noir filming which makes it more than just a heist film)

I pretty much look at 1001 movies to see before you die and connect the dots on what I want to watch based on genre, director (Ford, Huston, Capra, Wilder, Hitchock etc...), actors (Cagney, Bogart, Mitchum, Cooper, Wayne, Eastwood, etc...) and get a feel for where I want to spend my entertainment time. There is so much quality here because it pre-dates overuse of special effects and relies upon story, plot, writing and talent from the actors, stuntmen, directors, etc... You will need to have an attention span that modern media has worked so very hard to erode, but once you get it, you will be rewarded and from a time when Hollywood wasn't wholly against you or your country.
A few films there to add to my Plex. Nice one.
 
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For me it is. I have always caught the classic movie that would play on syndication growing up. Godzilla to War of the Worlds, old westerns, etc. As I got older I would watch Turner Classic Movies channel on cable when an actor or actress I liked would be in a movie.

Fast forward to about 2007, I saw the writing on the wall and started to buy up as many DVD's and Blu Rays as I could of the Silver age films up to my rare favorites that somehow made it through the Hollywood gauntlet trash heap.

Last great movies I watched over the holidays were:

Strange Affair of Uncle Harry - 1945 (Well acted romance drama with Ella Raines, who was later married by the bad assed Robin Olds who was not only a WWII Ace, but responsible for putting the hurt on the North Vietnamese and Russian attaches in Vietnam [this guy could have a movie all to himself from his exploits])

The Man Who Would Be King - 1975 (Michael Caine and Sean Connery, Rudyard Kiplings fantastic adventure WATCH THIS BEFORE YOU DIE, if you already haven't)

Holiday Affair - 1949 (Robert Mitchum plays a non-tough guy, but with his trademark style in what is an appropriate holiday romance movie with some charm)

The Asphalt Jungle - 1950 (This movie set the bar for heist films, it has been cribbed by so many since, it can be considered source material. Fantastic Noir filming which makes it more than just a heist film)

I pretty much look at 1001 movies to see before you die and connect the dots on what I want to watch based on genre, director (Ford, Huston, Capra, Wilder, Hitchock etc...), actors (Cagney, Bogart, Mitchum, Cooper, Wayne, Eastwood, etc...) and get a feel for where I want to spend my entertainment time. There is so much quality here because it pre-dates overuse of special effects and relies upon story, plot, writing and talent from the actors, stuntmen, directors, etc... You will need to have an attention span that modern media has worked so very hard to erode, but once you get it, you will be rewarded and from a time when Hollywood wasn't wholly against you or your country.
The Man who would Be King is a brilliant flick! Sadly its become very obscure. Usually when I bring it up (to reference becoming a "deity") most people have never heard of it.... which is crazy considering it stars Connery and Cain.
 
I am always happy to make recommendations. I am still going through my list of unseen movies, and I still get surprised everytime.

On the Man who would be King. Michael Caine's accent is so thick, I almost need subtitles. Charming East End Brouge, indeed.
 
Before I forget, If you have a date or significant other that wants a movie night. Don't just Netflix and chill.

Both of these movies tend to get women in the mood:

To Catch a Thief 1955 - Cary Grant and Grace Kelly. Grace is the one on the prowl in this one and Cary gets unwittingly pursued. This should be on everyone's list who think they like strong women. Grace actually is, yet celebrates femininity and the power she as as the fairer sex with regards to Cary Grant. It helps that it is a Hitchcock film, has action, suspense, adventure and is romance movie without being a chick flick.

The Apartment 1960 - Jack Lemmon and Shirley MacLaine. Romance comedy with a dark story. Fun fact, Shirley MacClaine filmed this simultaneously while appearing in the original Ocean's 11 (Rat Pack and Vegas Heist, better than the remake) as a cameo. It's a good film regardless.


Just watch this one already. Find out why the Rat Pack were a thing. Swank, ultra cool and a time we will never get back.
 
Yeah I loved To Catch A Thief, Grace Kelly definitely gets me in the mood. Tbh also you just can't go wrong with Hitchcock. Rear Window is fucking excellent for instance.

Also enjoyed The Apartment. Really good fun film. Not seen any of the Oceans films though.
 
Rear Window is another good movie, I agree. Oceans 11 is really the best of the four Rat Pack movies made and has nothing to do with the other Oceans movies other than they redid Oceans 11 and turned it into a series. Glad you liked the movie recommendations.
 
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The funny thing is I almost always find myself fancying one or more of the women in these old films from 30s/40s/50s. It's such a great era in that regard, so many truly incredibly beautiful women, and the films are pretty special too. The wife and I have been working through a whole load of the classics over the last couple of years and that whole period is just extraordinary. 60s a little less so but then the 70s gets pretty cool and the 80s is all good bombastic fun. 90s is where the dip starts, 00s doesn't have much and then the 10s are a fucking train wreck.
 
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The funny thing is I almost always find myself fancying one or more of the women in these old films from 30s/40s/50s. It's such a great era in that regard, so many truly incredibly beautiful women, and the films are pretty special too. The wife and I have been working through a whole load of the classics over the last couple of years and that whole period is just extraordinary. 60s a little less so but then the 70s gets pretty cool and the 80s is all good bombastic fun. 90s is where the dip starts, 00s doesn't have much and then the 10s are a fucking train wreck.
I agree, they were stars for a reason. I really dig the environments, furniture, fashion, vehicles, technology, etc... in old movies. Half the time I am checking out how a room is set up, since they don't have wide screen tvs, electronics, and the like. You can see how their sense of space and livable areas take on a more important role for relaxation, recreation and familial congregation. I also enjoy how fancy some of the fashions are, and out of the world some of the hats tend to be on the ladies. The strange affair of Uncle Harry's actress, Ella Raines, has some crazy stuff that looks pretty awesome, even by todays standards. I imagine women were over the moon on those outfits when shown on the screen. It dovetails in with my enjoyment of the Art Nouveau to Art Deco era of architecture and design as a whole. I nerd out on it as much as I do with the cars in any old movie.

The older the movies get, talking 30's to the early 40's, they had looser standards for all sorts of things. I have mentioned it before but when someone is being shot at on screen, they are using actual live ammunition. Of course decency codes for moral standards as well as safety designate a shift in not only writing but how they filmed as well.

Angels with Dirty Faces 1938 has a number of scenes with firearms, but the stand out is when Cagney is trying to escape the police and they just unload on him with Thompson Machine Guns, watching the bullets chew up the block wall just over his head. Unreal.
 
I agree, they were stars for a reason. I really dig the environments, furniture, fashion, vehicles, technology, etc... in old movies. Half the time I am checking out how a room is set up, since they don't have wide screen tvs, electronics, and the like. You can see how their sense of space and livable areas take on a more important role for relaxation, recreation and familial congregation. I also enjoy how fancy some of the fashions are, and out of the world some of the hats tend to be on the ladies. The strange affair of Uncle Harry's actress, Ella Raines, has some crazy stuff that looks pretty awesome, even by todays standards. I imagine women were over the moon on those outfits when shown on the screen. It dovetails in with my enjoyment of the Art Nouveau to Art Deco era of architecture and design as a whole. I nerd out on it as much as I do with the cars in any old movie.

The older the movies get, talking 30's to the early 40's, they had looser standards for all sorts of things. I have mentioned it before but when someone is being shot at on screen, they are using actual live ammunition. Of course decency codes for moral standards as well as safety designate a shift in not only writing but how they filmed as well.

Angels with Dirty Faces 1938 has a number of scenes with firearms, but the stand out is when Cagney is trying to escape the police and they just unload on him with Thompson Machine Guns, watching the bullets chew up the block wall just over his head. Unreal.

Glad I'm not the only one who does that - it's really remarkable how different those spaces are in many ways. Tbh even thinking back to my childhood in the 80s though home spaces have changed a lot, the big thing probably being the hifi no longer being a big feature for instance. It paints a picture of how leisure time was spent in those days, with books being a big feature for instance. I do wonder sometimes whether the changes in the home have dulled our wits. I know for sure my attention span isn't what it once was for instance, which of course is my own fault and my own problem to fix.

Didn't know that about the live ammo - scary stuff. Added Angels With Dirty Faces and Oceans Eleven (original) to my download queue. My Plex server will be delighted.
 
Glad I'm not the only one who does that - it's really remarkable how different those spaces are in many ways. Tbh even thinking back to my childhood in the 80s though home spaces have changed a lot, the big thing probably being the hifi no longer being a big feature for instance. It paints a picture of how leisure time was spent in those days, with books being a big feature for instance. I do wonder sometimes whether the changes in the home have dulled our wits. I know for sure my attention span isn't what it once was for instance, which of course is my own fault and my own problem to fix.

Didn't know that about the live ammo - scary stuff. Added Angels With Dirty Faces and Oceans Eleven (original) to my download queue. My Plex server will be delighted.
I heard Alec Baldwin is a huge fan of the vintage way to handling ammo.