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A little Birdie just told me (with good authority) that a Gen 10 Xbox handheld is coming. They said GPU wise it should be near the Series S.
However, I have not heard anything internally besides rumors/whispers.
However, I have not heard anything internally besides rumors/whispers.
My OG Xbox started to sound like a drill when turned on. Flashing yellow-red light. Noise subsides after a while and everything works fine, but I'm getting worried.
If the rumours of MS having told Xbox to open up their system more and allow other PC storefronts on it, then it could be amazing
Sadly it's a generation too late for me to be won over though. I've already moved back over to PC with the Steam Deck and double dipped on most of the 7th gen games I've wanted to replay. Everything else is already all multiplatform.
Yea, I have no idea about those details. My friend (an Exec on a big IP) said that they were just informed about it coming and to expect near Series S resources but with more modern bits and bobs.
But if I were a betting man I would expect it to have some connection to MS's fast approaching Mobile Store front.
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If there's a sub-$1000 handheld that plays all Xbox console games, and also runs Steam to a Series S standard then I'm there day 1.
I'd wondered how Xbox would take another great bit of hardware and ruin it with their complete lack of understanding for how the market works, and that would definitely do it.
People won't buy a console for mobile games any more than they'll use a second App Store on mobile, let alone either be profitable.
It would be under $500. Steam Deck is already as low as $350 and is within spitting distance of the XSS, and that came out years ago now, with vastly less pull with manufacturers to keep the overheads low.
I am talking about the mobile storing being PART of it. I expect it to be an Xbox and share DRM with your console. But will have an additional app to get mobile games. Hell they may put the mobile store on the home console.
Optimus
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I think it's a big fat mistake for Xbox to continue making hardware. They should be focusing on hardware partnerships with the PC handheld makers in order to concentrate their Xbox efforts on a set of devices that meet a standard configuration. Why introduce a competitor to an already willing field of participants? They're not going to release anything on par with the ROG Ally or the Legion Go. Steamdeck already has a stranglehold on the non-Windows side of it. So... that means Xbox can release a less powerful Xbox-focused device that supports Epic and Steam? I suppose that's interesting.
Which no one who wants to play real games would give a shit about, and would put off people when they inevitably made it a major selling point of the system. It would inevitably end up being the XO's TV TV TV all over again.
What's more, trying to make money through an additional App Store to the default, built in ones on smart phones is going to fail miserably regardless, and trying to make it work through Xbox involvement is just going to tie another millstone around the department's neck.
It's an appalling idea and one I can absolutely see the out of touch MS execs, that have fucked up every single thing they've been involved with in gaming so far, would cream their pants over.
So now more games is bad? You lost me there. I am a hardcore console/pc player… but guess what, I also play mobile games! Even when I am in front of my PC or TV. I pull out my phone and play WarCraft Rumble, or Sudoku or Peggle or whatever I feel like.
If allowing players to choose the type of game they want is a bad thing. Label me Mr Terrible. And if it makes one adverse to a piece of hardware, I think they have issues and probably seek professional help. Or at least use a little preparation H.
Optimus
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I would personally like to see better controller support in mobile games. I believe ARM is the future, and mobile can be a solid gaming platform. In order for that to be, though, mobile games need to take a page from PC gaming's book and add better controller options instead of designing everything around touch and swipe.
Right, think about what you wrote for a minute.
You pull out your PHONE to play mobile games. You're not playing the same games on your console/PC as you are on your phone, because it's a very different market.
And you can probably play all those mobile games on your PC at least already, probably console too.
Mobile ports have been a thing for as long as mobile games have been popular, and they're always massive failures that sell as well as any other cheap bit of shovelware tat.
Too be clear for the hard of thinking, I'm not saying the games are bad, that the technology isn't 'functional', or that there aren't niche cases where this will be the best option for people (although in those cases, they probably shouldn't be wasting their money on gaming full stop).
What I'm saying is that everything suggested HAS BEEN TRIED BEFORE, and IT FAILED. None of this is new, and we know for a fact there simply isn't a significant audience out there willing to pay for it.
Microsoft Slayed Killer Instinct eSports Event To Stop Sequel Gossip
"The idea was dead just like that"
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Article: Around the spring of 2021, "right when everyone was super bought-in on netplay and games that lacked rollback netcode were clowned on," @connrokelt pitched a tournament "that bridged all these different gaps," picking Killer Instinct as the focus. "It was perfect. KI was on the then-new Xbox Game Pass. it had rollback netcode. There wasn't really anyone pushing netplay tournaments for it on the platform. So I pitched it to the boss and got approval to reach out to Sajam to be the brand and do the work of running it."
$3,000 was put aside for the event, with $1,000 being earmarked for the prize pool. "Sajam ended up budgeting, I think, $1.5k for the pot, using the rest to pay his tourney and stream staff," continues @connrokelt. "And it was a huge success! it was the biggest KI bracket on the site, ever. The numbers came back, and they were good, too. It had successfully bumped the DAU up. My hope was that we could draw up a partnership with Sajam, either to run a series that rotates rollback-enabled titles or to just keep running KI, since it's a Microsoft property."
Sadly, that didn't happen – the reason being that Microsoft was concerned people might assume the prolonged support was due to a Killer Instinct sequel being in development. "The reason why is truly maddening," says @connrokelt. "The next week, bossman schedules a quick 1:1 to let me know he heard from the Microsoft Game Studios folks, and they want us to never do anything like that again. He told me they didn't want to make anyone think they were working on a sequel, and that a Microsoft-sponsored event (via start.gg) could justify theories that they were going to work on one. It didn't make any fucking sense to either of us, but the idea was dead just like that."
Microsoft has (kind of) walked back on this recently, and is giving Killer Instinct a second chance to shine via an anniversary release. "I'm super happy for that community and what's going on there, but it's really hard not to be furious with Microsoft over tossing out a universally good thing over something so trivial and stupid, that they (sorta) went back on," says @connrokelt.
I understand KI is fairly niche but you're purposely going to kill off any hype for a sequel? I've never heard of something that stupid. Funny thing is I actually switched over to Xbox specifically because of the KI 2013 release. I literally bought the system for that game. Obviously, I built out my collection beyond that game but I picked up the Series X because my Xbox library was large enough and I was banking on a KI sequel.
You know, I'm pretty sure I'm done with MS after this gen. If they don't kill themselves off first. Just clowns running the show over there making the dumbest decisions and I'm just sick of it. Buying up studios and then shutting them down (Tango Gameworks). Games I've been hoping would materialize for years not releasing on Xbox (MvC Collection). Shutting down events to squash any sequel talk (KI). Sitting on all these IP's that they own and not doing a damn thing with them (take your pick, they've got a lot).
And just like that, my single player experience has been rendered useless. Weird how that factors into online services /s
Feels a little bit like the great 2022 DRM Outage.
And just like that, my single player experience has been rendered useless. Weird how that factors into online services /s
Feels a little bit like the great 2022 DRM Outage.
If only people had been warning us about this since Xbox One was initially announced. If only people had been warning us this was a plausible outcome in the always-online, all-digital ecosystem that Xbox was proposing.
Xbox owners endure so much abuse lol
To be fair, not every gamer has their finger on the pulse of the industry to the point where they're following industry news like some of us over here. And I come here to get 95% of my news otherwise I wouldn't know what's going on.
That said, I'm the poster boy for sunk cost fallacy on this one. I invested enough into Xbox where I didn't want to NOT get an XSX. I knew about their shenanigans back in 2013 and saw the red flags. I ignored it when they walked back the "always online" stuff. I should've known that it would've been just as easy for them to reimplement it in the future (which, lo and behold, look where we're at).
What sucks now is I need to decide if I want to pivot back to PlayStation or just say screw consoles altogether and jump back on the PC bandwagon. Or just stay with my retro collection. Problem is, in an all-digital future, all of these companies have the ability to do this nonsense. Sony moving away from physical discs potentially kills a disc based PS6. I don't really know. Sucky times though.
Nicktendo
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In one sense its refreshing to see a developer speak so candidly. However, silly to burn your bridges and shows lack of professionalism. Lots of better ways he could of said that lol.
Grinchy
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I'm a sucker for that style. Would love to buy it if the quality of the Xbox controllers would be better. Sad.
Stifler's Mom
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I'm a sucker for that style. Would love to buy it if the quality of the Xbox controllers would be better. Sad.
Whats your problem with them?
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Has it though against the Steam Deck? Only real USP would be tight integration with gamepass. I think XBOX needs to narrow it's focus not expand it IMO.
Stifler's Mom
I've got some Scotch
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As if Playstation is any better on that front.
Next gen I will be on PC gaming all the way.
I'm using a Dualsense as my main, a custom modded one. Some time ago, I bought a limited edition Xbox controller. I'm mostly playing at night, and God damn this fucking thing. The buttons were so loud, the most cheap ass noises while my Dualsense is very quiet. In a direct comparison, it was pretty off putting.
Yep. The more I've been thinking about it, the more I'm most likely going to go this route. What blows is now I'll have to build another PC just for gaming and then I'll need to figure out how to get a console experience with it. I know it can be done, it's just going to take screwing around and I'd rather not deal with all of that because...
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Well, at least they achieved their objective of 'winning' China I guess…
Xbox genuinely feels like a spent force currently, and there's realistically nothing they can do to change it.
They have zero exclusives. They've no new hardware to drive excitement. They're so deep in the whole with expenditures on buying up half the industry that it'll be decades before they make back their investments, and all they have to show for it is a bunch of games people will play on their competitors platforms.
Next gen will be their last roll of the dice I reckon.
Grinchy
Permission to suckle
I wanna use my Xbox headset to play the next Halo multiplayer on PS5. Let's just rip that band-aid all the way off, MS!
I'm guessing those sell mostly to PC gamers. Xbox branded controllers and accessories are kinda like modern Logitech for Pc users: reliable and ubiquitous.