Thread: Riot extorts League of Legends legacy version fan project, forces it to shut down

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This story is hilarious. I know it's riot but how is this edgelord allowed to interact with the public.



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Zed: Hey, thanks for the unblock
Lord Lothendran: my apologies I assumed you were a spammer
Z: All good, I'm sure you get a bunch
LL: I need to leave for work here in 10 minutes. I'm sure your department has some sort of statement they would like to make, so I suppose we can dispense with the formalities. Once I get there and am settled we can talk further if need be
Z: Sure let's get right down to it
Z: The Riot Games legal team isn't super thrilled about your project unfortunately and is looking for a way to come to a mutually acceptable end to it
Z: So here I am to be the representative of that effort. We have a few things we'd like you to provide us and then we can all walk away with no hard feelings
LL: I see. Let me get to work and set up on my computer and I'll be happy to discuss.
Z: Sounds good, talk to you soon
LL: Alright
LL: I may have to come and go as my job requires
LL: but im here
Z: I admire the effort to cleanse your channels [redacted name], but I'll be real with you that's making me think you don't have a ton of interest in cooperating. At the end of the day that's fine, but I'ld urge you to give us some credit. We archived all your messages long before you nuked the channel. You can delete the "private" channels too if you like (you know, mod-chat, backend-todo, game-issues-archived, old_videos, etc.) but I'd prefer you didn't since it really won't do you any good anyway. You've obviously put a lot of work into Chrono shift, but I assure you that the Chrono break is coming.
LL: I appreciate the effort but you can dispense with the scare tactics
Z: Understood and I appreciate that you're taking the time to speak with me, but let's not try to work around each other
Z: If it were scare tactics Riot wanted you wouldn't be speaking to me
LL: I'm sure. Lawyers are much more direct though
Z: I'm here as the not-lawyer
Z: If it's directness you prefer, here's what I'm after
Z: * Hand over the chronoshift.dev website to us
* Hand over all source code
* Tell us all identifiable information you shared with [Name of a different developer], and what identifiable information he shared with you
* Not necessarily required but I'd be curious to know how you and [redacted name] broke down the workload
LL: Give me a moment to confer with [redacted name]
Z: Sure, but for what it's worth it is my understanding that there really isn't anything to the legal strategy you referred to in the informational channel
LL: with respect sire, I would appreciate if you would turn off the "scare script kiddies" script with me, I am willing to cooperate but I find this sort of attempted brow beating annoying
LL: let's get down to brass tacks
Z: No brow beating intended
LL: I would appreciate if you would lay down the legal claims that you plan to bring forward against me and the team, se we can have a chance to discuss them with legal representitives if this doesn't go anywhere.
At the moment you've just essentially said "comply because we know your name and we are threatening with the courts", I would appreciate to know exactly what you intend to accuse us of.
As you've clearly been lurking out channels you must know the great lenghts we've gone to avoid distributing your materials except via channels you already provide.
Z: That is correct, till now I've said "give this or we will sure". That's the offer. Give me what I'm looking for and we won't sue. Refuse and we will
Z: I'm not interested in dragging this out. If you feel you'd like to speak to legal representation you are certainly capable of doing so
Z: I'm on the security team. I find people and things. I don't practice law and have little/nothing to do with any legal proceedings Riot is involved in. We can come to an agreement to end this today or we can both hand this off to council
Z: To be honest I don't care either way
LL: Here's my counteroffer:
- I cut ties with this project
- I tell the [redacted name] to shut it down immediately. I can't compel him to do anything though, that's on you
I don't control the website. I don't want to rat on other people, if you know who they are already you can threaten him too.
Otherwise, feel free to serve me.
Z: I wish I could say it has been a pleasure.
 
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I'm starting to believe that Riot are cursed. Their name pops out with problems almost every year

Also zed is a cunt, you don't talk to people like that when they're being polite...
 
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I can't read shit like that, massive image with tiny text that requires horizontal scrolling
 
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I can't read shit like that, massive image with tiny text that requires horizontal scrolling
Well, I'm bored anyway and couldn't find any script so hopefully this is better for mobile

Zed: Hey, thanks for the unblock
Lord Lothendran: my apologies I assumed you were a spammer
Z: All good, I'm sure you get a bunch
LL: I need to leave for work here in 10 minutes. I'm sure your department has some sort of statement they would like to make, so I suppose we can dispense with the formalities. Once I get there and am settled we can talk further if need be
Z: Sure let's get right down to it
Z: The Riot Games legal team isn't super thrilled about your project unfortunately and is looking for a way to come to a mutually acceptable end to it
Z: So here I am to be the representative of that effort. We have a few things we'd like you to provide us and then we can all walk away with no hard feelings
LL: I see. Let me get to work and set up on my computer and I'll be happy to discuss.
Z: Sounds good, talk to you soon
LL: Alright
LL: I may have to come and go as my job requires
LL: but im here
Z: I admire the effort to cleanse your channels [redacted name], but I'll be real with you that's making me think you don't have a ton of interest in cooperating. At the end of the day that's fine, but I'ld urge you to give us some credit. We archived all your messages long before you nuked the channel. You can delete the "private" channels too if you like (you know, mod-chat, backend-todo, game-issues-archived, old_videos, etc.) but I'd prefer you didn't since it really won't do you any good anyway. You've obviously put a lot of work into Chrono shift, but I assure you that the Chrono break is coming.
LL: I appreciate the effort but you can dispense with the scare tactics
Z: Understood and I appreciate that you're taking the time to speak with me, but let's not try to work around each other
Z: If it were scare tactics Riot wanted you wouldn't be speaking to me
LL: I'm sure. Lawyers are much more direct though
Z: I'm here as the not-lawyer
Z: If it's directness you prefer, here's what I'm after
Z: * Hand over the chronoshift.dev website to us
* Hand over all source code
* Tell us all identifiable information you shared with [Name of a different developer], and what identifiable information he shared with you
* Not necessarily required but I'd be curious to know how you and [redacted name] broke down the workload
LL: Give me a moment to confer with [redacted name]
Z: Sure, but for what it's worth it is my understanding that there really isn't anything to the legal strategy you referred to in the informational channel
LL: with respect sire, I would appreciate if you would turn off the "scare script kiddies" script with me, I am willing to cooperate but I find this sort of attempted brow beating annoying
LL: let's get down to brass tacks
Z: No brow beating intended
LL: I would appreciate if you would lay down the legal claims that you plan to bring forward against me and the team, se we can have a chance to discuss them with legal representitives if this doesn't go anywhere.
At the moment you've just essentially said "comply because we know your name and we are threatening with the courts", I would appreciate to know exactly what you intend to accuse us of.
As you've clearly been lurking out channels you must know the great lenghts we've gone to avoid distributing your materials except via channels you already provide.
Z: That is correct, till now I've said "give this or we will sure". That's the offer. Give me what I'm looking for and we won't sue. Refuse and we will
Z: I'm not interested in dragging this out. If you feel you'd like to speak to legal representation you are certainly capable of doing so
Z: I'm on the security team. I find people and things. I don't practice law and have little/nothing to do with any legal proceedings Riot is involved in. We can come to an agreement to end this today or we can both hand this off to council
Z: To be honest I don't care either way
LL: Here's my counteroffer:
- I cut ties with this project
- I tell the [redacted name] to shut it down immediately. I can't compel him to do anything though, that's on you
I don't control the website. I don't want to rat on other people, if you know who they are already you can threaten him too.
Otherwise, feel free to serve me.
Z: I wish I could say it has been a pleasure.
 
Well, I'm bored anyway and couldn't find any script so hopefully this is better for mobile

Zed: Hey, thanks for the unblock
Lord Lothendran: my apologies I assumed you were a spammer
Z: All good, I'm sure you get a bunch
LL: I need to leave for work here in 10 minutes. I'm sure your department has some sort of statement they would like to make, so I suppose we can dispense with the formalities. Once I get there and am settled we can talk further if need be
Z: Sure let's get right down to it
Z: The Riot Games legal team isn't super thrilled about your project unfortunately and is looking for a way to come to a mutually acceptable end to it
Z: So here I am to be the representative of that effort. We have a few things we'd like you to provide us and then we can all walk away with no hard feelings
LL: I see. Let me get to work and set up on my computer and I'll be happy to discuss.
Z: Sounds good, talk to you soon
LL: Alright
LL: I may have to come and go as my job requires
LL: but im here
Z: I admire the effort to cleanse your channels [redacted name], but I'll be real with you that's making me think you don't have a ton of interest in cooperating. At the end of the day that's fine, but I'ld urge you to give us some credit. We archived all your messages long before you nuked the channel. You can delete the "private" channels too if you like (you know, mod-chat, backend-todo, game-issues-archived, old_videos, etc.) but I'd prefer you didn't since it really won't do you any good anyway. You've obviously put a lot of work into Chrono shift, but I assure you that the Chrono break is coming.
LL: I appreciate the effort but you can dispense with the scare tactics
Z: Understood and I appreciate that you're taking the time to speak with me, but let's not try to work around each other
Z: If it were scare tactics Riot wanted you wouldn't be speaking to me
LL: I'm sure. Lawyers are much more direct though
Z: I'm here as the not-lawyer
Z: If it's directness you prefer, here's what I'm after
Z: * Hand over the chronoshift.dev website to us
* Hand over all source code
* Tell us all identifiable information you shared with [Name of a different developer], and what identifiable information he shared with you
* Not necessarily required but I'd be curious to know how you and [redacted name] broke down the workload
LL: Give me a moment to confer with [redacted name]
Z: Sure, but for what it's worth it is my understanding that there really isn't anything to the legal strategy you referred to in the informational channel
LL: with respect sire, I would appreciate if you would turn off the "scare script kiddies" script with me, I am willing to cooperate but I find this sort of attempted brow beating annoying
LL: let's get down to brass tacks
Z: No brow beating intended
LL: I would appreciate if you would lay down the legal claims that you plan to bring forward against me and the team, se we can have a chance to discuss them with legal representitives if this doesn't go anywhere.
At the moment you've just essentially said "comply because we know your name and we are threatening with the courts", I would appreciate to know exactly what you intend to accuse us of.
As you've clearly been lurking out channels you must know the great lenghts we've gone to avoid distributing your materials except via channels you already provide.
Z: That is correct, till now I've said "give this or we will sure". That's the offer. Give me what I'm looking for and we won't sue. Refuse and we will
Z: I'm not interested in dragging this out. If you feel you'd like to speak to legal representation you are certainly capable of doing so
Z: I'm on the security team. I find people and things. I don't practice law and have little/nothing to do with any legal proceedings Riot is involved in. We can come to an agreement to end this today or we can both hand this off to council
Z: To be honest I don't care either way
LL: Here's my counteroffer:
- I cut ties with this project
- I tell the [redacted name] to shut it down immediately. I can't compel him to do anything though, that's on you
I don't control the website. I don't want to rat on other people, if you know who they are already you can threaten him too.
Otherwise, feel free to serve me.
Z: I wish I could say it has been a pleasure.

I appreciate that lol, I was just making a general comment about those kinds of images but wow thank you!
 
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what a prick, chrono 'break' and patronizing well wishes

when i was working on earth special forces many eons ago, we basically just told the powers to be to go fuck themselves and do their worst
 
imagine handing over information like that to a security lackey with a god complex

'give us some credit', rich coming from the studio that released valorant ...
 
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How the greedy have fallen. I used to like Riot and League. I even turned a blind eye to all the stories about them but ever since they became slaves of Tencent it just became worse and worse. Just evil company through and through.
 
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"Yesterday our legal counsel sent the Chronoshift development team a letter formally requesting they cease development on the project," Riot told Eurogamer. "This follows an explicit request our developer relations team made a year ago when the project was first announced."

Riot also pointed to section three of its legal guidelines, which prohibits the creation of any unauthorised games or apps that make use of Riot IP. "We understand the Chronoshift team is disappointed, but they shouldn't be surprised by our request," Riot added.

As for the interesting messages from Zed, Riot also had something to say about that.

"Regarding the exchange with Riot Zed, we're disappointed with the tenor of the conversation and we'll be addressing this internally," the statement said. "We often attempt good faith reach-outs prior to issuing legal documentation. In this case, however, given the Chronoshift team's response, we have proceeded through more formal channels."
 
I find it very hard to believe that this “Zed” is part of any “security team” at Riot.

What is this, a chinese crime thriller?