Thread: Phil Spencer says Game Pass competitors an "inevitability"

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Amid reports Sony is overhauling its PlayStation Plus service into something more closely resembling Game Pass, Xbox head Phil Spencer has said he thinks it's an "inevitability" competitors will begin adopting the model because it's "the right answer".

"I don't mean it to sound like we've got it all figured out [at Xbox]", Spencer told IGN when quizzed on the recent reports involving Sony, "but I think the right answer is allowing your customers to play the games they want to play, where they want to play them, and giving them choice about how they build their library, and being transparent with them about what our plans are in terms of our PC initiatives and our cross-gen initiatives and other things."

"So when I hear others doing things like Game Pass or coming to PC," he continued, "it makes sense to me because I think that's the right answer... I don't really look at it as validation [of Xbox's strategies]. I actually, when I'm talking to our teams, I talk about it as an inevitability."

As such, Spencer says its critical Xbox "continue to innovate, continue to compete, because the things that we're doing might be advantages that we have in the market today, but they're just based on us going first, not that we've created something that no one else can go create."

"I like it, because it feeds our energy on what are the next things that we should be working on as we continue to build out the things that we've done in the past. Because I think the right answer is to ship great games, ship them on PC, ship them on console, ship them on cloud, make them available Day 1 in the subscription. And I expect that's what our competitor will do."

 
The race to the bottom, and the cesspit of churned out crap that will be all the worst aspects of Netflix and mobile gaming, is basically inevitable at this point. Shortsighted greed will absolutely win out.

I genuinely hope Nintendo's desire to maintain the narrative that their games are higher quality products demanding high price tags remains in place long enough for this bollocks to backfire of MS and Sony.
 
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But isn't Game Pass a PS+ competitor seeing how it came second? Anyway...

to echo @Stilton Disco , the march toward a curated subscription instead of owning games is against my own desires as a customer. I'll just buy less but buy it physical when I can.
I would say its more an imitation of PS Now than PS+. TO me PS+ was just a reactionary copy of teh success of Xbox Live. And if I remember correctly XBL started the "free games" thing and PS+ followed suit. But PS Now was a thing well before GP and gave a similar experience (albeit streaming only the first 2 years) with a catalog of hundreds of games via subscription. But now they both allow streaming and Download.
 
I got RE8 and Deathloop for $20 each during Black Friday. Same with Tony Hawk 1+2 for the PS5 version.

I just don't see any reason I'd have spent $15/month for access to these games and the online multiplayer portions to end up in 4 months spending the same amount and also not even owning them afterward. And that's not even getting into the fact that these games aren't even on a subscription plan anyway. I'd still have had to buy them separately, but let's pretend every game is on the subscription.

When Sony starts charging more for a higher tier version of Plus to bundle in PS Now with a new extended library of games added to it, I will not be a customer. I'll keep begrudgingly using the $28/year online extortion tax PS+ codes from cdkeys so I can access multiplayer and get cloud saves and that's as far as they can bend me over and fuck me. I can wait the few months it takes for games to get cheap as fuck and then actually own them.
 
I got RE8 and Deathloop for $20 each during Black Friday. Same with Tony Hawk 1+2 for the PS5 version.

I just don't see any reason I'd have spent $15/month for access to these games and the online multiplayer portions to end up in 4 months spending the same amount and also not even owning them afterward. And that's not even getting into the fact that these games aren't even on a subscription plan anyway. I'd still have had to buy them separately, but let's pretend every game is on the subscription.

When Sony starts charging more for a higher tier version of Plus to bundle in PS Now with a new extended library of games added to it, I will not be a customer. I'll keep begrudgingly using the $28/year online extortion tax PS+ codes from cdkeys so I can access multiplayer and get cloud saves and that's as far as they can bend me over and fuck me. I can wait the few months it takes for games to get cheap as fuck and then actually own them.

I got a free Gamepass PC trial through Amazon. Do you know what I did? Downloaded 3 games. Played one for a couple of hours. Deleted it, and the other 2, unplayed, a few weeks later. And browsed. Same thing I used to do when I subscribed to Netflix.

I uninstalled the whole thing. I'm sure some people get a lot of use and value from it, but not me. Probably an age thing.
 
Gaming is not like movie/TV streaming. A movie is a 2hr investment. A TV show can be paused and resumed. And the writing isn't so complex/nuanced that the avg viewer has trouble jumping from one show to another.

Gaming has a much greater time investment and suffers from that feeling of "getting into it" whether that's re-learning the controls or reminding yourself where on the quest path you are. Streaming / subscribing to games just doesn't match the product. It's also why book "subscriptions" aren't much of a thing, other than at a library. The required time investment itself is incompatible with the subscription model, even ignoring other factors.
 
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