Ohio votes to legalize marijuana for recreational use

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The "yes" vote on Issue 2 means people age 21 and over in the state will be able to use, grow or sell marijuana under a regulation-and-tax program imposed by the state. The measure takes effect in 30 days. Supporters of the measure campaigned on the premise of regulating marijuana "like alcohol."


Looks like it's finally happening. We have a handful of dispensaries but not that many since the medical loophole was expensive and off-putting to the average stoner. Hopefully this will mean much more competition and lower prices.
 
Nah it doesnt work like that. We have it up in Canada. Quality goes down and price goes up. The weed industry up here is struggling and complaining about high cost of packaging and being able to compete with the black market.

It will just create q bureaucracy and high taxes being passed onto the consumer. Your local pot dealer didnt have to worry about taxes and other regulations so they could sell you it cheap. Government will stick its beak in there and the cost is passed to the consumer
 
I voted to legalize it in my state many years ago despite having no interest in using it myself and I totally regret it in hindsight. I have no doubt that it has contributed to the decay in urban society. Great for people who just want to casually get high, I guess.
 
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It's only medically legal in my state but there are dispensaries everywhere where i live. Kinda insane how this stare rejected recreational recently
 
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I may have stated my opinion on such issues here before - I don't remember. But the fact that a plant or fungi or any other natural substance that grows on the Earth has to be "legalized" is an indication of the absolutely oppressive clown world we live in. Fuck me, I feel so out of place in this "place" most of the time. I want to go home - wherever that is. (And to be clear, I have never used weed. Mushrooms yes, but not cannabis.)
 
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Keep in mind the law doesn't go into effect until 30 days so don't start blazing it in front of cops just yet.
 
cryptoadam said:
Nah it doesnt work like that. We have it up in Canada. Quality goes down and price goes up. The weed industry up here is struggling and complaining about high cost of packaging and being able to compete with the black market.

It will just create q bureaucracy and high taxes being passed onto the consumer. Your local pot dealer didnt have to worry about taxes and other regulations so they could sell you it cheap. Government will stick its beak in there and the cost is passed to the consumer
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I hope it does. Michigan is known for having great quality and low prices after they went legal a few years back.

Maybe Canada is full of too many trannies or something.
 
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I had my worst panic attack after swallowing THC pills. So it's not for me for sure. Also I used to be more progressive about drugs but after decrimalisation in many provinces in Canada, the amount of deaths skyrocketed and zombies are seen. I'm not entirely for the criminalisation of all drugs. It's not good for society.
 
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cryptoadam said:
Nah it doesnt work like that. We have it up in Canada. Quality goes down and price goes up. The weed industry up here is struggling and complaining about high cost of packaging and being able to compete with the black market.

It will just create q bureaucracy and high taxes being passed onto the consumer. Your local pot dealer didnt have to worry about taxes and other regulations so they could sell you it cheap. Government will stick its beak in there and the cost is passed to the consumer
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You can grow your own here. But there are two shops in my small town, I don't know how the store owners can survive seriously. It's privatised in Ontario compared to Québec.
 
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I hope it does. Michigan is known for having great quality and low prices after they went legal a few years back.

Maybe Canada is full of too many trannies or something.
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Too much government. In QC its all government run and they have crazy pacakging requirments and taxes on the weed.

In ontario my understanding is there were limited licenses that were given out.

The problem is the government stuck their hand in the pot (lol) and like always make things worse and more expensive because they need their big cut.
 
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if there's gonna be anything standing in the way of reviving manufacturing in the Midwest, it's the legalization of weed. Shrinks the pool of viable workers. Now, we could make the case that weed doesn't interfere with a conveyor belt wagie doing their job properly, but the companies are still screening for weed. Sets the stage for "needing" more workers than the market can provide which (of course) means we "need" to allow more immigrants to fill those jobs.
 
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DonDonDonPata said:
if there's gonna be anything standing in the way of reviving manufacturing in the Midwest, it's the legalization of weed. Shrinks the pool of viable workers. Now, we could make the case that weed doesn't interfere with a conveyor belt wagie doing their job properly, but the companies are still screening for weed. Sets the stage for "needing" more workers than the market can provide which (of course) means we "need" to allow more immigrants to fill those jobs.
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What I seem to notice a lot these days is that they won't drug test people to get the job anymore. But, what they will do, is have a policy where if you are injured at work in any way, then you have to take a drug test. That way they cover their ass and can just fire you and not owe workman's comp or get into a lawsuit or anything. Just, 'Oh this man is a drug addict and that caused his accident so we removed him."

And it's ridiculous because you could have smoked weed 2 weeks ago and it shows up on that test and it had nothing to do with the accident. We need this shit to be legal at the federal level.
 
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What I seem to notice a lot these days is that they won't drug test people to get the job anymore. But, what they will do, is have a policy where if you are injured at work in any way, then you have to take a drug test. That way they cover their ass and can just fire you and not owe workman's comp or get into a lawsuit or anything. Just, 'Oh this man is a drug addict and that caused his accident so we removed him."

And it's ridiculous because you could have smoked weed 2 weeks ago and it shows up on that test and it had nothing to do with the accident. We need this shit to be legal at the federal level.
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it's definitely a "don't ask don't tell" sorta thing. I dunno how I'd feel about running a skilled manufacturing company that allows weed, since you want precision in your product. But I also don't think companies should be making judgment calls based on recreational behavior instead of measurable output.
 
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DonDonDonPata said:
it's definitely a "don't ask don't tell" sorta thing. I dunno how I'd feel about running a skilled manufacturing company that allows weed, since you want precision in your product. But I also don't think companies should be making judgment calls based on recreational behavior instead of measurable output.
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Yeah I wouldn't want a skilled manufacturing company employing alcoholics who are drunk on the job, coke heads, or anything in between. It's just odd how hard weed gets singled out while it's the only drug you can actually spot in a drug test since everything else is gone from your body in a few days.
 
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Yeah I wouldn't want a skilled manufacturing company employing alcoholics who are drunk on the job, coke heads, or anything in between. It's just odd how hard weed gets singled out while it's the only drug you can actually spot in a drug test since everything else is gone from your body in a few days.
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well as you mentioned, the liability issue puts weed into the crosshairs, since it's fairly easy to test for. Kind of a lame "look at us we're doing something!" sort of rule.
 
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FactsAreDead said:
good. either legalize weed or forbid alcohol. makes no sense to allow alcohol but not the others.
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Alcohol has no potential for seeing through the shit of life. It just numbs (among other much worse things), which (not so) coincidentally benefits the system and powers that be.

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Granted, some respond differently to other substances that are considered illegal, but for so many there are immeasurable benefits that transcend the illusions of "the world".
 
synchronicity said:
Alcohol has no potential for seeing through the shit of life. It just numbs (among other much worse things), which (not so) coincidentally benefits the system and powers that be.

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Granted, some respond differently to other substances that are considered illegal, but for so many there are immeasurable benefits that transcend the illusions of "the world".
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The idea that weed helps you see things more clearly is a stoner farce you tell yourself to make you feel "enlightened" about being a pothead.

Weed is fine in moderation and under the right circumstances. Alcohol is a much more social substance. In fact, it's one of the few things modern people do socially anymore. Taking it away would be very bad for society right now. Alcohol has obvious costs and downsides as well.
 
Alcohol is worse than weed. Drunk driving vs stoned driving its not even a contest. I dont think i have ever heard of someone klling someone in a stoned accident (not saying it doesnt happen but its probably very rare). Alcohol fucks up your liver and you can die from alcohol poisoning. You have an entire support group set up because of the destructive effect alcohol has on people and their lives.

Now weed OTOH has its negative effects and even though i smoked it I dont really see the benefits to society. I think its medicinal properties go from overstated to snake oil. For teenagers young adults it makes then unmotivated. It stinks.

but if we want to talk avout being deatructive and negative consequences alcohol is the worse of the two hands down.
 
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cryptoadam said:
Alcohol is worse than weed. Drunk driving vs stoned driving its not even a contest. I dont think i have ever heard of someone klling someone in a stoned accident (not saying it doesnt happen but its probably very rare). Alcohol fucks up your liver and you can die from alcohol poisoning. You have an entire support group set up because of the destructive effect alcohol has on people and their lives.

Now weed OTOH has its negative effects and even though i smoked it I dont really see the benefits to society. I think its medicinal properties go from overstated to snake oil. For teenagers young adults it makes then unmotivated. It stinks.

but if we want to talk avout being deatructive and negative consequences alcohol is the worse of the two hands down.
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Yes, but the social upsides to alcohol always get ignored in these conversations. Drinking is one of the only things people do together anymore. It's pretty much social gasoline. Maybe if it was gone, it would be replaced by something else. Or it would just lead to even more loneliness and isolation, which we already have an insane amount of.
 
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Alcohol is worse than weed. Drunk driving vs stoned driving its not even a contest. I dont think i have ever heard of someone klling someone in a stoned accident (not saying it doesnt happen but its probably very rare). Alcohol fucks up your liver and you can die from alcohol poisoning. You have an entire support group set up because of the destructive effect alcohol has on people and their lives.

Now weed OTOH has its negative effects and even though i smoked it I dont really see the benefits to society. I think its medicinal properties go from overstated to snake oil. For teenagers young adults it makes then unmotivated. It stinks.

but if we want to talk avout being deatructive and negative consequences alcohol is the worse of the two hands down.
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weed has its own list of negative health effects: loss of bone density, interferes with proper sleep, interferes with the dopamine system and with growth hormones. The liver is involved in the metabolism of THC as well, so while you won't necessarily suffer from fatty liver and scarring like an alcoholic would, it's still a stressor on that system.

I agree that the social culture around alcohol versus weed is different... going out and getting drunk then driving home is far more dangerous than going out and getting high then driving home.
 
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Stopped_Cold_29 said:
The idea that weed helps you see things more clearly is a stoner farce you tell yourself to make you feel "enlightened" about being a pothead.

Weed is fine in moderation and under the right circumstances. Alcohol is a much more social substance. In fact, it's one of the few things modern people do socially anymore. Taking it away would be very bad for society right now. Alcohol has obvious costs and downsides as well.
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Well, I was a bit off on my own tangent - thinking of mushrooms rather than weed specifically, despite the thread being about weed. As I mentioned earlier I have never used weed. And I was responding to the absurdity of alcohol being legal while other less corrosive substances are forbidden.

I guess what my point is, more than the particular illegal substance in question, is that alcohol benefits the wheels of commerce, which in turn benefits those who...benefit (the most) from this system. The man who is numbed by, not only alcohol, but by endless distraction and entertainment, crushing debts and all manner of other "tricks" is less likely to disrupt a machine that is clearly beneficial to a minority *much* more than the majority. There are so many elements in place to keep the man on the treadmill. The man who steps off is a potentially dangerous man to the status quo.
 
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