Thread: Naughty Dog artist says devs ‘don’t have an excuse’ to ignore authentic black hair in games

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A Naughty Dog character artist has said there's "no excuse" for modern games not to feature authentic high-quality Black hairstyles.

Speaking as part of a short documentary produced by Kinda Funny and hosted by journalist Blessing Adeoye Jr, character artist Del Walker said, "The advantage now is you don't have an excuse, because the tech can support what you need. Now it's just about having the knowledge and using the resources of Black people to ask 'is this right?'"

Walker, who is currently a character artist at Naughty Dog, formerly worked at Rocksteady, including designing Deadshot for the upcoming Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League game.

The short explores the lack of Black hairstyles in modern video games, even in some of the largest games of recent years. Elden Ring, which won countless Game of the Year awards, is highlighted by the short as a game lacking meaningful Black hairstyles.

Walker goes on to talk about what challenges developers face when approaching Black hair and how changes in game development have changed the approac

"It starts off with a class, a lesson first, which is usually the thing that takes the most amount of time. Just introducing people to the idea that there are different hair texture

"With black hair specifically, you want to take [one of] two directions. You either want to simplify as much as possible or want to take the other route where we're actually going into fine detail by placing loads of polygons, the problem you had with the Xbox 360 era is you didn't have enough [power] to really fill out on black hair, and you didn't want to go to simpl

"The advantage now is you don't have an excuse, because the tech can support what you need. Now it's just about having the knowledge and using the resources of Black people to ask 'is this right?

The short also points out the regional differences in development and how that may effect the diversity of a development team, which would then impact thing such as character creation and in-game hairstyle

Franchises such as Animal Crossing didn't even feature the option to give your character darker skin tones in earlier games. As a contributor to the video points out, the only way to achieve darker skin was to leave your Nintendo DS handheld out for a period of time in order to give your character a ta

The video concludes by asking Walker what he thinks the solution is for developers moving forward, and how developers can approach Black hair in game

"Going to someone that knows a lot more than you. Going to someone who knows about not only being Black but knows Black hair and saying 'can you just show us lots of things that you think are cool' and work from there, rather than doing something half baked"

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Edit: forgot the VGC link
 
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Now you corrected it. lol

For someone who claims to have lived in two places in America your English sucks.

Congratulations man, good for you. You are obsessed with me, it's truly pathetic. Your win is to point out when I misspell a word, WOW

Half your post history is just you replying to me and being ignored.

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Congratulations man, good for you. You are obsessed with me, it's truly pathetic. Your win is to point out when I misspell a word, WOW

Half your post history is just you replying to me and being ignored.

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You're replying right now. lmao
 
Narrative in games is just an open-door for these dimwits. Get rid of story and you get rid of the concern over hair-texture. The only consequences would be Oh no muh Legend of Zelda timeline and lore!
 
It's a videogame.
By definition everything is synthesised. Nothing is authentic.

Make a better argument and lose the stupid buzzwords and vocabulary-laundering if you want anyone to take you seriously.
Or just screech "Muh racism!!!" on Twitter and apply drama instead of substance.
 
What game has perfect hair period, regardless of race? Even in pre-rendered CG hair is often uncanny valley.

It's racist if special consideration isn't given to black hair. Black people and trans people are sacred. Nintendo and Xbox don't even seem to care about that. Thankfully Sony and Naughty Dog especially are woke af and care about what's truly important in video games.

Naughty Dog should be made the official studio of RetardEra
 
It's racist if special consideration isn't given to black hair. Black people and trans people are sacred. Nintendo and Xbox don't even seem to care about that. Thankfully Sony and Naughty Dog especially are woke af and care about what's truly important in video games.

Naughty Dog should be made the official studio of RetardEra

Naughty Dog doesn't even how to model boobs but somehow they are the goat developers for some tards.
 
I'm would agree… with a MASSIVE caveat. You can totally have fantastic hair physics…. If you have the memory/compute budget for it. But more often than not things like hair are given the backseat to other aspects of the rendering and physics that have a higher ROI.

It's just like character model tri counts or anything else… the sky is the limit if it's the only thing you focus on. But when you are doing lots of things, each gets a budget.

I mean look at HFW on PS5, an absolutely beautiful game…. But Aloy's hair is shit. It could have been good, but something else would get diminished. So they did good enough.
 
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It's funny because he says black people want authentic black hairstyles in their games but when you go to the hair-care aisle in the drug store or supermarket most of the "black" hair-care stuff is for straightening hair... :unsure:
 
It's funny because he says black people want authentic black hairstyles in their games but when you go to the hair-care aisle in the drug store or supermarket most of the "black" hair-care stuff is for straightening hair... :unsure:

It's such a forced shitty show.

They want straight hair for themselves but whenever a white person wants dreadlocks they go bonkers (and dreadlocks first appeared in CYPRUS of all places).
 
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It's such a forced shitty show.

They want straight hair for themselves but whenever a white person wants dreadlocks they go bonkers (and dreadlocks first appeared in CYPRUS of all places).

Also the Celts used Chalk and Lime water to matt and spike their hair. The Celts also believed in their hair being magical, so there isn't a cultural monopoly on hair being manipulated and overvalued with fanciful ideas.

To put it bluntly if a game is going to make a big deal about how authentic a hair type is, then more than likely I won't be playing it and more than likely I am going to choose whatever generic Male character there is for FPS and big booty Female if it is Third Person if that is something the industry touts as a bonus to whatever game they spent time and money on. If I can spectate how an artist modeled a specific ethnicities hair style, then that tells me I haven't found a proper helmet or armor for my character and the game is probably bullshit anyways.
 
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