Thread: Mortal Kombat 1: next DLC cancelled after poor sales

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It appears as though future content for Mortal Kombat 1 is ending after Kombat Pack 2 wraps up. According to new claims, developer NetherRealm Studios has cancelled DLC plans for a Kombat Pack 3 and second story expansion for Mortal Kombat 1.

Known Mortal Kombat 1 leaker FateUnknown posted on Reddit that the cancellations happened recently after the Khaos Reigns expansion sold poorly.

It's not all bad for Mortal Kombat 1 fans as there are still characters from Kombat Pack 2 to join the roster such as Conan the Barbarian and T-1000 from Terminator 2. FateUnknown also said that its possible a "kameo or two" make it to the game due to work that had already been done on them but he "didn't know yet".


No idea what could've caused this. The character designs were so extremely appealing, as was the whole design. Baffling. I think they need more DEI consultancy.

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So many stupid decision in MK 1. Cyrax and Sektor are female now? Get the hell out of here with that shit.

Then they had the audacity to charge almost the price of the base game for the Khaos Reigns expansion.

I will say the VGA not even nominating MK 1 for fighting game of the year was the chef's kiss.
 
Fuck them. Their pricing model is ridiculous. And MK1 was nowhere near as good as MK11.

I get the feeling MK1 was forced on them by Warner Brothers. They just wernt hungry to make a new one and the audience wasn't ready for a new one. It would have been far more exciting to go with Marvel or DC and then in 5 years time return to Mortal Kombat.

Short term decision making (but, but MK11 sold loads) against long term strategy. Never over saturate, it just lowers the IPs value.
 
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Almost as if you hire based on DEI, the DEI people make DEI decisions, which influence a games quality.

Could that be?

There's some bad DEI choices (especially the Robots) but on my list of complaints it's fairy low down. On the top of my head;

- Too soon after MK11.
- Reset Timeline for the novelty.
- Fucking up reset and making it even crazier than before. So needs a reset more than the last game did after only one game.
-No Deaths or stakes in story mode.
- REALLY weak stinger. No one cares about a random Havik variation.
- The semi double team up/back up system.
- Use of the most unpopular 3d era characters. Huffing their own farts, they were largely unpopular for a reason.
- Wasted slots on the DLC characters (especially the robots).
- Very expensive DLC.
-Removal of random towers.
- *Some* female character designs.
 
There's some bad DEI choices (especially the Robots) but on my list of complaints it's fairy low down. On the top of my head;

- Too soon after MK11.
- Reset Timeline for the novelty.
- Fucking up reset and making it even crazier than before. So needs a reset more than the last game did after only one game.
-No Deaths or stakes in story mode.
- REALLY weak stinger. No one cares about a random Havik variation.
- The semi double team up/back up system.
- Use of the most unpopular 3d era characters. Huffing their own farts, they were largely unpopular for a reason.
- Wasted slots on the DLC characters (especially the robots).
- Very expensive DLC.
-Removal of random towers.
- *Some* female character designs.

Hiring people based on DEI doesn't mean they only make DEI decisions. It means the people aren't qualified, they've been hired for political and ideological reasons. Meaning these unqualified people are now influencing the development, the gameplay, all aspects of the game. But it's not only the new DEI hires, the whole culture of such studios gets altered towards being less customer focused, less focused on actual game quality, less focused on sacrificing themselves for the game, but focusing on the individuals to make them feel good. Which has negative effects on the whole product.

Btw. I totally wasted the opportunity to use this great meme in my reply to you. FML I failed.

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Hiring people based on DEI doesn't mean they only make DEI decisions. It means the people aren't qualified, they've been hired for political and ideological reasons. Meaning these unqualified people are now influencing the development, the gameplay, all aspects of the game. But it's not only the new DEI hires, the whole culture of such studios gets altered towards being less customer focused, less focused on actual game quality, less focused on sacrificing themselves for the game, but focusing on the individuals to make them feel good. Which has negative effects on the whole product.

Btw. I totally wasted the opportunity to use this great meme in my reply to you. FML I failed.

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Dude as much as I'd like to blame it all on DEI hires, I'm pretty sure the issue is that Ed Boon is just a moron.
 
I don't think it's to do with DEI. It's just not a very good Mortal Kombat game, with a lot of questionable decisions.
You know better. There's DEI hiring practices. Decisions that flow down from those DEI hiring choices. ESG-based decision making that is foisted upon the projects by financiers looking to get that ESG-backed investments.

DEI. ESG. What difference does it actually make if the roots are deep into the same ideological beliefs? They're driving dumb decisions like gender-flipping robots and such. Doesn't matter if it's "low on my list" when those decisions are flowing from a mindset that seeps into everything else about the game in question.
 
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You know better. There's DEI hiring practices. Decisions that flow down from those DEI hiring choices. ESG-based decision making that is foisted upon the projects by financiers looking to get that ESG-backed investments.

DEI. ESG. What difference does it actually make if the roots are deep into the same ideological beliefs? They're driving dumb decisions like gender-flipping robots and such. Doesn't matter if it's "low on my list" when those decisions are flowing from a mindset that seeps into everything else about the game in question.

A bad game made a few years ago is just a bad game, a bad game today and must be because of DEI hires. I'm sure there's truth to what your saying, but I doubt it's a huge part.

If DEI games were only about private funding subsidies their commercial success wouldn't matter, but we all know that's not the case.
 
A bad game made a few years ago is just a bad game, a bad game today and must be because of DEI hires. I'm sure there's truth to what your saying, but I doubt it's a huge part.

If DEI games were only about private funding subsidies their commercial success wouldn't matter, but we all know that's not the case.

You would have a leg to stand on if the game and studio were both 100% Woke/DEI/ESG free, unfortunately reality has different ideas. Similarly in a market where we know ESG has financial incentives for pushing DEI slop and hiring based on DEI metrics rather than merit all across the industry and other entertainment industries, and that this has been going on for at least a decade, but especially ramping up in the last 6 years or so I think the people calling a spade a spade and drawing a line between the DEI staff and the bad decisions (including the DEI character redesigns and bad female designs in general) are more directionally correct than the people who think "it is just a bad game with bad decisions that exists in a vacuum entirely detached from the ESG financial hiring incentives and content (correct message) tick boxes"
 
You would have a leg to stand on if the game and studio were both 100% Woke/DEI/ESG free, unfortunately reality has different ideas. Similarly in a market where we know ESG has financial incentives for pushing DEI slop and hiring based on DEI metrics rather than merit all across the industry and other entertainment industries, and that this has been going on for at least a decade, but especially ramping up in the last 6 years or so I think the people calling a spade a spade and drawing a line between the DEI staff and the bad decisions (including the DEI character redesigns and bad female designs in general) are more directionally correct than the people who think "it is just a bad game with bad decisions that exists in a vacuum entirely detached from the ESG financial hiring incentives and content (correct message) tick boxes"

Well my stance is more in the middle of those two approaches. Does it have some effect.. sure more than likely..but also good and bad games have existed since the beginning of time. I don't think games developers stopped making bad decisions on other grounds once DEI came along, both reasons co exist.

I believe the biggest reason beyond anything is Warner Brothers pushing for another Mortal Kombat game too early. Netherrealm being woke has been true for a good number of years and in my opinion apart from the last release, the quality has been pretty great.

Ps I think "slop" is the new buzz word like "lazy developers" back in the day. Nothing is made low effort in the triple AAA game space. For all it's downfalls MK1 has some great strengths both artistically, technology and content wise.
 
Best 3 minutes you've ever had?

To be fair I love Scream. I'll have to at least check it out.

I used to love MK. Especially the first 2 games. I really got into them at the start. But recently, I even look back on the funky PS2/X360 era MK games as more enjoyable than the recent ones.

With the past few games prior to MK1, it was almost as if the Krypt mode and unlockables were the reason to keep me playing for a little while.

I bought MK1 even tho I didn't enjoy 11, 10, the Injustice games. I never enjoy the way that these games control over a game like SF. And I know this, it's a huge sticking point for me. And then I buy their games anyway. It makes no sense!

The Scream character does look very good. They did a great job with his trailer. I played the game again for a tiny bit because I ALMOST bought the expansion in the sales. But I have to break the habit. I do hope you will enjoy it if you give it another go!
 
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All they have to do is bring back MK9 designs and they'd immediately sell gangbusters.

Question is whether the decisionmakers are willing to do so politically. Some companies are pivoting, but some companies are still stuck with that bullshit, like Jaguar.

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cdkeys had the new dlc with all the new and upcoming characters for £14 and I bought it.... :oops:

I want to play Conan ..........
 
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The thing with blaming it all on DEI is that this assumes Moron Kombat was good in the first place.

There have been no worthwhile entries since the PS3 days.
 
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The thing with blaming it all on DEI is that this assumes Moron Kombat was good in the first place.

There have been no worthwhile entries since the PS3 days.

You know, I'm kind of with you on this on a personal level. I loved the weird and wonderful PS2/PS3 entries. Modern MK did have legs tho, MK9, 10, 11 all sold huge numbers.

This game is a mess. And has been a mess for a long time. Race swaps, gender swaps, turning good characters into girl bosses. Turns out that loses a lot of potential sales.
 
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The thing with blaming it all on DEI is that this assumes Moron Kombat was good in the first place.

There have been no worthwhile entries since the PS3 days.

I've always maintained that Mortal Kombat games have never really been very good, and I say this as a big fan of the series. They've always been fun, cool, weird, creative, and just generally rad, but as a fighting game in general, they were always clunky and were nowhere near even lesser known Japanese fighters in terms of quality, but the cool factor of the games and the interesting world and lore have always dragged it across the finish line in the end.

Well, turns out that DEI inevitably makes things seem far less cool, less rad. There's nothing "cool" about feminist ideologies, left wing rhetoric, and trans propaganda influencing a game that was fundamentally about multiple colored ninjas murdering each other, and all these reboots are making the deep and interesting lore that the games were developing over time just seem inconsequential now; it's almost like the story has no stakes, making the whole violence and gnar factor of the game seem massively toned down from the earlier titles.

I actually think DEI is literally the only reason, and I really mean only one, that the new MK fell on its face like this. I certainly can't find any other one, cause everything that this new game's guilty of, apart from DEI of course, 11 was guilty of too and it sold great. It was DEI that caused the reboot of so many characters that were iconic and beloved, and it was DEI that removed any semblance of sex appeal from all the female characters, and it was DEI that caused the gender reassignment of iconic characters. The whole thing just became cringey, like I could legitimately see someone presenting this interpretation of MK as a parody for a sketch comedy show back when those were good, (90's to early 00's), and it's insane that noone on the team saw this reboot and didn't realize how shockingly milquetoast and lacking in personality or atmosphere it is before shipping. This toxic positivity shit is truly ruining games, people need more constructive, honest criticism, but what's happening in the video game space is just plowing forward with aplumb, knowing you're carrying the flag of your cause or agenda, with absolutely zero attempt at securing an attempted unbiased review of the progress for the game to see if this is really working from a cohesive narration standpoint, so what ends up happening is a whole lot of different creators making something completely imbued with their own individual bias and generally meant to be as inoffensive as possible and to appeal to metrics and data points based on tags and trends rather than actual quality of character design or narration, and all of these crestors' ideas get in, they're not shot down by a good director who says ,"hey good effort there but doesn't necessarily fit the style of this game, we go big and we go violent and we go scary and we go sexy with this one", and when that guy's not trying keep the cutting room floor well populated with ideas that don't have broad appeal and only pertain to a niche demographic, then we get this completely vanilla, gender confused, edgeless, Marvel-ish pile of vomit known as MK1. It's honestly just a shame.
 
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