Thread: 'JOHN WICK 5' is officially happening
This series is a one-hit wonder. Assassination clan wars is boring, they should have found a way to keep it grounded like the first. Though I'm sure the Ana de Armas spinoff is going to be a hit for no reasons to do with the plot.
 
I'm not sure. The first film was cool, but once they brought in the bulletproof tailored suits in the second one, things started going downhill. The second film wasn't completely awful—aside from the silly fight with Ruby Rose, who clearly wasn't a credible threat to Wick—but things have really spiralled since then, mainly because the world-building has become so messy.
 
Didn't see the fourth one because yeah, diminishing returns on each film. The long run time didn't help it either. Will probably skip this unless amazing impressions from people
 
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Rein it in, ditch the bullet proof jackets, blind wizards and high table Twilight shit and you might have something.

Do a prequel about Wick's early days as an assassin and keep it grounded in (relative) reality.
 
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Rein it in, ditch the bullet proof jackets, blind wizards and high table Twilight shit and you might have something.

Do a prequel about Wick's early days as an assassin and keep it grounded in (relative) reality.

They're doing an animated film about Wick, and the night he earned his freedom. That's going to be a long, bloody mess of a movie.
 
Yea things got more and more over the top and silly, but the action is still top notch and well worth a watch.

Fuck the haters, I'm in if this is actually a thing. (Although I'd rather see it brought back down to reality in a prequel too.)
 
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This series is a one-hit wonder. Assassination clan wars is boring, they should have found a way to keep it grounded like the first. Though I'm sure the Ana de Armas spinoff is going to be a hit for no reasons to do with the plot.
Four money making, critically acclaimed movies featuring a pop culture icon that will be remembered as Keeanu's best role says you're wrong. In a time when people hate Hollywood the John Wick films are among the few things that both regular every day people and critics can agree has been great.

And John Wick was never grounded no matter what people like the Critical Drinker say. The first movie was as ridiculous as the sequels. The entire appeal of the first movie was how fucking ridiculous it was with comic book style monologues about "Baba Yaga" and over the top action. I hate when people criticize a franchise for not being something it never was in the first place
 
If you people want something "grounded" maybe go watch something like La Femme Nikita from 1990 or Collateral from 2004. John Wick was ALWAYS ridiculous
 
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Four money making, critically acclaimed movies featuring a pop culture icon that will be remembered as Keeanu's best role says you're wrong. In a time when people hate Hollywood the John Wick films are among the few things that both regular every day people and critics can agree has been great.

And John Wick was never grounded no matter what people like the Critical Drinker say. The first movie was as ridiculous as the sequels. The entire appeal of the first movie was how fucking ridiculous it was with comic book style monologues about "Baba Yaga" and over the top action. I hate when people criticize a franchise for not being something it never was in the first place

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Please don't.

1-3 were fantastic. 4 was so damn bad, I legitimately wonder if they told Keanu act like an old man in every fight scene and just say "yeah..." for the whole movie.
 
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Yea things got more and more over the top and silly, but the action is still top notch and well worth a watch.

Fuck the haters, I'm in if this is actually a thing. (Although I'd rather see it brought back down to reality in a prequel too.)

I agree. The fourth one was bloated with a lame ass villain, but the isometric shootout scene with the dragons breath rifles was awesome, shoulda been the finale of the film tbh.

I really am only looking forward to the anime prequel of how Wick became notorious. Honestly I just want a video game. As a toxic male who loves his gun porn I def wouldn't mind another film if it's good. Just lose the damn bullet proof suits. Shit ruined a lot of the tension in action scenes.
 
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I agree. The fourth one was bloated with a lame ass villain, but the isometric shootout scene with the dragons breath rifles was awesome, shoulda been the finale of the film tbh.

I really am only looking forward to the anime prequel of how Wick became notorious. Honestly I just want a video game. As a toxic male who loves his gun porn I def wouldn't mind another film if it's good. Just lose the damn bullet proof suits. Shit ruined a lot of the tension in action scenes.

Agreed. In four especially that whole thing became obnoxious. With the chief bad guy enforcer I keep thinking 'Just shoot him in the foot' in the Tokyo Hotel when they have the lobby fight. Just seeing guys with their jackets pulled up to protect themselves was laughable.

Much like the Matrix films, I think John Wick suffered the same issue of starting off cool, but then descending into cringe over time. Don't get me wrong the action stuff is always good, but at the same time at a certain point it also becomes meaningless. The train fight with Common is probably the one face-off I still remember fairly well out of all of them.
 
I'm not sure. The first film was cool, but once they brought in the bulletproof tailored suits in the second one, things started going downhill. The second film wasn't completely awful—aside from the silly fight with Ruby Rose, who clearly wasn't a credible threat to Wick—but things have really spiralled since then, mainly because the world-building has become so messy.

What are you kidding? Watching her act all smug and arrogant only to get completely manhandled by Wick in the end was one of the best parts of the film.
Agreed. In four especially that whole thing became obnoxious. With the chief bad guy enforcer I keep thinking 'Just shoot him in the foot' in the Tokyo Hotel when they have the lobby fight. Just seeing guys with their jackets pulled up to protect themselves was laughable.

It felt like a weird reaction to the escalating stakes in action scenes. Instead of having Wick utilize cover and tactics more, let's give him The Batman level body armor. It was a dumb move.
 
What are you kidding? Watching her act all smug and arrogant only to get completely manhandled by Wick in the end was one of the best parts of the film.

Sure, but within the context of her being Santino's principal enforcer, it didn't make a lick of sense that she would be next to fucking useless.

It felt like a weird reaction to the escalating stakes in action scenes. Instead of having Wick utilize cover and tactics more, let's give him The Batman level body armor. It was a dumb move.

We can agree on that. I just feel like their entire approach was to get more and more bombastic and increasingly dumb. The fight with Mr Creosote|Fat Bastard in 4 was a real case of 'what is this shittu?' Let alone that the one person who they think is the person to take on Wick, is a blind guy.
 
I've had my fill after 4. The ending felt like a good final note

The first one was outstanding. The second one was decent. The third one was... pretty boring in a way. The fourth one I almost fell asleep. I honestly don't even remember the plot of the fourth movie now. Like at all. They could have stopped after the first one as far as I care at this point. I'll probably watch a fifth one because it'll still have cool action set pieces and stuff, but meh. Not excited at all.
 
Sure, but within the context of her being Santino's principal enforcer, it didn't make a lick of sense that she would be next to fucking useless.

I thought it was perfectly on brand for Santino given how much of a fucking idiot the guy is. He does nothing but make bad decisions all film, so it perfectly tracks that he'd make the absolute worst choices in staff.

We can agree on that. I just feel like their entire approach was to get more and more bombastic and increasingly dumb. The fight with Mr Creosote|Fat Bastard in 4 was a real case of 'what is this shittu?'

I thought that scene was pretty entertaining tbh, even though the guy obviously had zero chance of killing Wick. The music and cinematography was just so good.

Let alone that the one person who they think is the person to take on Wick, is a blind guy.

But said blind guy is daredevil apparently.
 
I thought that scene was pretty entertaining tbh, even though the guy obviously had zero chance of killing Wick. The music and cinematography was just so good.
Yeah, this was my favorite scene in the movie.
 
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Reading the OP was painful. Feels like Marvel all over again. We don't need a spin off for everyone. Who genuinely watched these characters and thought "boy I hope they get their own show/film"? Also you can only do a fake out death once, then never again. Meaning the threat of John Wick ever dying is now gone, lowering the stakes. James Bond is going to have the same dilemma.
 
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