Thread: Jez Corden has heard that Apple is poaching Xbox engineers to make it's own console
Grinchy
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Why would they even need to? They have been making hardware for so long and must already have access to some of the best engineers in the world.
I'm guessing it will just be a new tier of Apple TV with specs on par with the latest iPad Pro and maybe some additional gaming-focused features and a bundled gaming controller rather than a remote.
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God, I can only imagine how up its own ass an Apple console would be. Tim Cook can fuck off.
The one area apple silicon isn't great is GPU performance, but even then, it's surprisingly decent.
Getting some Xbox engineers in to help with getting drivers sorted and explain what they'd need to do, for a gaming version of their tech to shine, actually makes a lot of sense, especially if they want to make PC ports easier.
Whether Apple can make a dent in the gaming market however is another matter.
They are absolutely the tech company that could leverage enough money, tech and influence to do it, but as a new competitor in the market, if they tried the usual Apple pricing bollocks then they will fail miserably. They'd also need proper exclusive AAA games, and not just paywalled existing ones, which would need years to even set up studios for.
Still, they could do it. Infact they could probably make a Switch 2 and Steam Deck competitor with their chips, that would blow both machines out of the water power wise, so if they would be willing to take that loss leading price tag they'd need, there's nothingness say they couldn't be very disruptive in the market.
I wouldn't buy it because they're a bunch of cunts of course, but it's an intriguing hypothetical.
Getting some Xbox engineers in to help with getting drivers sorted and explain what they'd need to do, for a gaming version of their tech to shine, actually makes a lot of sense, especially if they want to make PC ports easier.
Whether Apple can make a dent in the gaming market however is another matter.
They are absolutely the tech company that could leverage enough money, tech and influence to do it, but as a new competitor in the market, if they tried the usual Apple pricing bollocks then they will fail miserably. They'd also need proper exclusive AAA games, and not just paywalled existing ones, which would need years to even set up studios for.
Still, they could do it. Infact they could probably make a Switch 2 and Steam Deck competitor with their chips, that would blow both machines out of the water power wise, so if they would be willing to take that loss leading price tag they'd need, there's nothingness say they couldn't be very disruptive in the market.
I wouldn't buy it because they're a bunch of cunts of course, but it's an intriguing hypothetical.
Agreed. If they are doing anything it's something supplemental to IOS, maybe allowing you to play your mobile games on your TV. Everyday affordable isn't really part of Apples Brand Identity let's be honest.
Helljumper
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What can Apple offer that isn't already covered by the big three? Nothing in my view.
The failure of Stadia shows that there isn't room for a fourth manufacturer in the industry.
The failure of Stadia shows that there isn't room for a fourth manufacturer in the industry.
I'd actually argue otherwise. With the massive consolidation of studios and extending dev times reducing the number of games getting made, there's probably never been a better time for a new first party to make a dent, but it's 100% dependant on whether they can provide more new games. If Apple can set up enough dedicated first party studios to be a second Nintendo, and they absolutely could, then people would take notice.
The current hardware drought is also laying out the perfect basis for someone like Apple, that can get products made with its huge amount of cash and influence over production lines, to sweep in with a new 9th gen system, simply because people would be able to buy it.
I'm not saying it would happen, because I expect the same idiots pushing for streaming, subscriptions and just buying existing studios to be behind this were it to happen.
But still, it would be possible.
Apple certainly isn't afraid to splash the cash. They've thrown a phenomenal amount of money at their TV series in recent years, however, the thing they'd require to enter the console space is Development Studios for content creation. If that was happening, we'd have heard about it by now for sure.
With all of that said. I would love Apple basically coming out there with a Console being like 'Apple bringing gaming to your living room' just for the memes. The amount of shit Steve Jobs used to claim Apple "invented" was fucking absurd.
Aye.
I actually think the most likely thing they'd do gaming wise is create a gaming focused Macbook, iPad or Apple TV that will be able to play both Mac and ios App Store titles, and maybe Steam, GOG, Epic etc games, without any of their own first party games.
It would absolutely sell to Apple fans, but not really make any ripples in the wider gaming industry.
Dreamlord
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They should instead try making the Mac a more viable gaming platform before thinking about other hardware ventures.
Helljumper
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Yep. Apple's track record in regard to gaming isn't great. For sure, Apple has a lot of money, but so did Google and they couldn't make Stadia work.
Microsoft tuned in to gaming culture with the original Xbox and that's why they were successful. I just can't see Apple doing that.
lock2k
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Only thing Apple I've bought is a ipad and I can't picture them getting into the console space at a affordable price, I will admit the ARM hardware the M1/M Max use is pretty good but they would need game studios or there own to make compelling exclusives .
I will admit a M1 powered Switch like device that uses a iPad Mini like form factor for a console sounds really intriguing, but then again I just made all that up and just personal opinion
I will admit a M1 powered Switch like device that uses a iPad Mini like form factor for a console sounds really intriguing, but then again I just made all that up and just personal opinion
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so maybe a new sega console could be possible. One can dream i guess lol. if it does happen i'll definitely be there to back it on indiegogo
I'd buy an Apple console if it had a physical medium and decent power. Their hardware is solid.
However, as Google and Amazon (and Apple) have proven time and time again, being "a leader in the tech industry" doesn't mean you'll do well in the gaming industry. It's almost as if the tech industry followed on the coattails of the gaming industry or something...
However, as Google and Amazon (and Apple) have proven time and time again, being "a leader in the tech industry" doesn't mean you'll do well in the gaming industry. It's almost as if the tech industry followed on the coattails of the gaming industry or something...
lock2k
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They would make revisions every six months and force updates to make the old versions unusable. I wouldn't touch ot with a ten foot pole.I'd buy an Apple console if it had a physical medium and decent power. Their hardware is solid.
However, as Google and Amazon (and Apple) have proven time and time again, being "a leader in the tech industry" doesn't mean you'll do well in the gaming industry. It's almost as if the tech industry followed on the coattails of the gaming industry or something...
I'm not sure how an Apple console would fit into the interconnected product group that Apple likes to maintain. Some of their strongest selling points, like UI and interconnectivity, have very limited use on a console. Apple Music integration and all that stuff would be obvious, though. That's assuming they would go full console at all, which I doubt. Even for Apple it's way too tough for a fourth console to exist.
But it doesn't even make sense for them to try to capitalise on the App Store they currently have by doing a portable either, because that's just an iOuya. And no one is touching Switch's market in a time of diminished Apple dominance thanks to Android's improvements.
I just don't see it in any shape or form, and I like my iPhone.
But it doesn't even make sense for them to try to capitalise on the App Store they currently have by doing a portable either, because that's just an iOuya. And no one is touching Switch's market in a time of diminished Apple dominance thanks to Android's improvements.
I just don't see it in any shape or form, and I like my iPhone.
gameragodzilla
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In my eyes, more competition is always better. AMD finally being competitive to Intel in the CPU space is what made the CPU market better, and Intel's also getting into the GPU space now.
So we'll see what type of product Apple makes from this. Stadia sucked ass, but that was because its cloud gaming was conceptually bad. However, even that competition in a way showed Microsoft how to do it better as I think Xbox Game Pass would work decently well with cloud gaming. Since you don't own Microsoft Game Pass games anyways, cloud gaming makes more sense. And then you can download and install your own copy if you buy it.
So we'll see what type of product Apple makes from this. Stadia sucked ass, but that was because its cloud gaming was conceptually bad. However, even that competition in a way showed Microsoft how to do it better as I think Xbox Game Pass would work decently well with cloud gaming. Since you don't own Microsoft Game Pass games anyways, cloud gaming makes more sense. And then you can download and install your own copy if you buy it.
Cravis
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