George R. R. Martin confirms he’s 3/4 done with ‘Winds of Winter’

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George R. R. Martin confirms he’s 3/4 done with ‘Winds of Winter’

'Game of Thrones' fans rejoice, George R. R. Martin has confirmed that the next instalment 'The Winds of Winter' is well on the way.
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Game of Thrones fans rejoice, George R. R. Martin has confirmed that the next instalment in the series is well on the way.

Speaking in a live stream with Random House, Martin spoke about the latest series of House of the Dragon and the long-awaited Winds of Winter.

"It's a big, big book," said Martin. "It's a challenging book. It's probably going to be a larger book than any of the previous volumes in the series.

"The Dance of Dragons and Storm of Swords were the two largest books in the series. They were both about 1500 manuscript pages. I think this one is gonna be longer than that, by the time I've finished it."

"I think I'm about 3 quarters of the way done, maybe. But that's not 100% done. So, I have to continue to work on it. "

"I've given up on making predictions [of when it will be finished]. Because people press me and press me, 'when's it gonna be done?'"

"I've never lied about these predictions… But I guess I overestimate my ability to get stuff done and underestimate the amount of interruptions."

"One day it will be done. And then, it will come out. And then, the next day, someone will tweet me 'When will we see A Dream of Spring!?'"
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Uh huh. That's great and all George. But guess what?

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You had your chance to finish the book while you were riding high on the popularity of Game of Thrones. But then you got lazy and greedy when you could have been productive and finished the goddamn books before that awful tv finale.

Enjoy the residuals off of House of the Dragon you fat fuck. Nobody cares about books you probably won't finish.
 
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The time has passed. Only old folks who have been reading for 20 years who are too invested to give up on it now are still holding out.
 
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Dacon said:
The time has passed. Only old folks who have been reading for 20 years who are too invested to give up on it now are still holding out.
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The book faithful are largely a bunch of cunts tbh. When GoT first launched, you'd think someone had murdered their mother given all the REEing they would do, over the most trivial shit. Zero self-awareness about TV Production, budgets or keeping actors on pay roll.
 
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The book faithful are largely a bunch of cunts tbh. When GoT first launched, you'd think someone had murdered their mother given all the REEing they would do, over the most trivial shit. Zero self-awareness about TV Production, budgets or keeping actors on pay roll.
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Was it that bad early on? I honestly don't remember much criticism for the first three seasons, but I also don't follow any "book faithful" forums or whatever.
 
Does he have a son who is a writer or anything like that? I only ask bc it feels like this series doesn't get done until he dies and younger people come in and do it for him.
 
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Does he have a son who is a writer or anything like that? I only ask bc it feels like this series doesn't get done until he dies and younger people come in and do it for him.
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I had a theory that Daniel Abraham would write for him if he's not able to finish it and I believe George confirmed that's the case when he was finally able to admit that he might die before finishing.

I enjoy Daniel Abraham's works. I've read his Long Price Quartet and it's great. Dramatic in an almost Shakespearian way, but written in palatable modern prose.
 
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Was it that bad early on? I honestly don't remember much criticism for the first three seasons, but I also don't follow any "book faithful" forums or whatever.
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Loitered on a couple and it was pretty obnoxious. Basically getting upset over inconsequential things from the appearance of the actors not looking the way 'they' envisaged to not enough
people or missing scenes etc. In short, ppl who were expecting the show to be 100% accurate to the books versus an adaptation.
 
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George R.R. Martin on Winds of Winter: Just 500 pages left to go

Stephen Colbert’s Tooning Out The News roasts Martin, and solicits advice for getting him to make deadlines
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By now, fans of George R.R. Martin's Song of Ice and Fire books — the novels adapted into the HBO Max series Game of Thrones and House of the Dragon — are used to mildly exhausting updates on his progress on the 11-years-overdue next novel in the series, The Winds of Winter. An episode of the Comedy Central series Stephen Colbert's Tooning Out The News has the latest from Martin, who says — sounding fairly sincere about it — that he's written around 1,100 to 1,200 pages of the book so far, and just has "another 400, 500 pages" to go.
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This one book is going to be 1600 pages? Sounds like a trainwreck.

It reminds me of the horrible Dark Tower series when King decided to just write a book that had its own novel-length side story contained within the main story. Unbelievably tedious.
 
George is too busy watching the Giants/Jets in the fall/winter and the Mets in the spring/summer. Please understand.
 
I always say I'd like to join reading the books, since they're supposed to be much better than the series. But ... he's taking forever with this book AND there's another one afterwards? And he doesn't have annnounced any continuation plans in case he dies public? Fuck that. If by some freak coincidence he finishes the books and they're good, I'll start reading.
 
There's these pesky things like multiple rounds of editing, beta readers, galley copies and production schedules that us lesser, plebeian authors often consider when setting expectations of time for our audiences. But who am I to question the good Captain Martin? (Is it the fate of all eccentric fantasy authors to cosplay as fat wizards or pirates?)

We won't see this book till 2026, assuming he doesn't croak or encounter health issues before then.
 
There's no way the book can live up to the wait though, right? Like it's a guaranteed disappointment even if it's decent.

I loved the first 4-5 seasons of the show, so I find myself wanting to read the books all the time, but I just don't see the point if they are never actually going to be finished.
 
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There's no way the book can live up to the wait though, right? Like it's a guaranteed disappointment even if it's decent.

I loved the first 4-5 seasons of the show, so I find myself wanting to read the books all the time, but I just don't see the point if they are never actually going to be finished.
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Martin has kept fans waiting too long. I mean Christ, it's already 12 years today when A Dance with Dragons was released in 2011. For comparisons sake, he's only 5 years short of the wait fans had to endure when a certain Oxford don released a sequel to his popular fantasy book for children.

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(released in 1954)

And JRR Tolkien released not one, but THREE books between 1954 and 1955. All the while enduring world changing events like the Second World War and being kept busy by his day job as a professor of Philology in Oxford. What excuse does Martin have for making fans wait so long for his shit?
 
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