Thread: Elon Musk says production of Tesla’s robot could start next year, but A.I. experts have their doubts

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Tesla may start production of a humanoid robot known as Optimus as early as next year, CEO Elon Musk said Thursday.

The electric vehicle maker first teased the robot, also known as the Tesla Bot, at its "AI Day" in Aug. 2021, saying it will be a general purpose machine capable of doing a wide range of tasks.

"We have a shot of being in production for version one of Optimus hopefully next year," Musk said Thursday at the opening of Tesla's new vehicle assembly plant in Austin, Texas, where he appeared on stage — in a cowboy hat and sunglasses — to Dr. Dre's "Still D.R.E."

Tesla has yet to reveal a working prototype of the robot, however, and it's unclear how sophisticated Optimus is at this stage.

Musk claimed that Optimus will eventually be able do anything that humans don't want to do, claiming that it will bring about an "age of abundance".

Striking a bullish tone, Musk also suggested that the robot will "transform the world ... to a degree even greater" than the cars Tesla is renowned for. "It's maybe hard to imagine it," he said.

AI has been hailed as a potential threat to humanity and Musk said in 2018 that he thinks AI is more dangerous that nuclear weapons. "As you see Optimus develop, everyone's going to make sure it's safe," he said Thursday. "No Terminator stuff or that kind of thing."

He previously said Tesla was designing the robot so that humans would be capable of running away from it, or overpowering it.

When Musk first announced Tesla's robot, he said it will be based on the same chips and sensors that the company's cars use for self-driving features. It is five foot eight inches tall, according to Musk, and has a screen at head-height for useful information.

Many people initially thought that the bot was little more than an AI recruitment tool for Tesla, but Musk said in January that the robot is actually a top priority for new product development this year.

"I think it has the potential to be more significant than the vehicle business over time," Musk said of the robot at the time. The fact that he's now talking about production in 2023 suggests Optimus is indeed a serious endeavor.

AI researcher and entrepreneur Gary Marcus told CNBC he'd be willing to make a bet that no robot will be able to do all human tasks by the end of 2023.

"Tesla has not even (after years of effort) come close to reliably solving one relatively simple task (driving); to claim that a robot that has never been shown publicly will solve all of human tasks in the next year or two is preposterous," he said.

"He can ship whatever he wants next year, since he is the boss, but there is no way that version one will come anywhere near his ambitions, if it is released that quickly."

Musk is known for his showmanship, in which he announces that Tesla is working on exciting products scheduled for years into the future to energize backers including employees, customers, and investors. Often, products launches do not happen on the timeline predicted.

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this is kinda scary they'll either take us over or make us dumber since it can do everything for us. I'd just rather have a affordable electric car and not this one a real car

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No shit that version 1 robot won't be able to do all human task. It will take multiple versions to get there but they have to start somewhere.

And people dunk on Elon for not solving self driving yet but the team underwent a complete code rewrite less than 2 years ago. Elon has admitted he under estimated the difficulty but they are making massive gains rapidly.

Toyota just announced they are copying Tesla and moving away from LIDAR self driving. The protocols being developed within Tesla for their chips to better at machine learning are going to be used in everything.
 
What if you applied for a factory job, and if you got it, there was a robot there that did the work for you and you got its pay. But, if the robot had to go in for maintenance, you'd get called and would have to come in and do the work :LOL:
 
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you sure I mean either way we may be screwed the pink haired people are at least entertaining and stupid
As a child who grew up in the late 70s, 80s and early 90s, I fucking love robots and think they are cool as shit (even the variety that will likely some day use my skull as a hood ornament). Pink-hairs, on the other hand, just cause my blood pressure to spike - I get no enjoyment from their shenanigans.
 
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As a child who grew up in the late 70s, 80s and early 90s, I fucking love robots and think they are cool as shit (even the variety that will likely some day use my skull as a hood ornament). Pink-hairs, on the other hand, just cause my blood pressure to spike - I get no enjoyment from their shenanigans.
I agree robots are cool but I'd rather not have to fight them in a apocalyptic world the trannies could be less deadly
 
literally trying to take our jobs... it's part of his presentation... I'll be honest I have big problems with this guy... I am not a fan like everyone seems to be.

Things will shift, the more robots can do physical tasks like humans. The shift is already happening in many industries.

The water level rises. There will be more and more people needed to do programming, planning, designing, maintenance of robots/machines, developing individual solutions. It will create a shit load of jobs - but only for qualified people. With the aging population, more people will be needed in social jobs like taking care of the elder. Other than that, there are certain trends towards more "social" jobs in general, where people are needed.

Weird times are ahead of us.
 
What if you applied for a factory job, and if you got it, there was a robot there that did the work for you and you got its pay. But, if the robot had to go in for maintenance, you'd get called and would have to come in and do the work :LOL:

That's probably the future. Redundancy is pretty expensive, especially early on when these robots will be maintenance hogs.

Although a lot of their mechanisms will probably not be serviceable in-house anyway like a lot of E&I equipment.
 
What if you applied for a factory job, and if you got it, there was a robot there that did the work for you and you got its pay. But, if the robot had to go in for maintenance, you'd get called and would have to come in and do the work :LOL:
Depends on the job how desirable that'd be. Could pull something like "tranny pr0n fluffer". That goddamn robot better be tip top at all times.