Thread: DPAD Top Movies Face/Off R1 V8: Man Bites Dog v The Hunt v The Great Escape v Arrival v Bride of Frankenstein v The Last Unicorn

Which of these movies is your favourite?


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So, so close this time. The Great Escape beats out both Arrival and The Last Unicorn by 1 vote.
No worries though, at least now everyone knows about the existence of the Last Unicorn, the only thing is trying to see which streaming service has it.
 
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@FactsAreDead I finally watched the last unicorn movie a day or so ago. I did find the animation quite nice, the quality is definitely there and I can see the connection with the future Ghibli films through the focus on natural things.

In terms of the story, it did seem to remind me a bit of the modern world. Where caring people try and search for other caring people, all the while being hunted and taken advantage of. There was a lot of personality observations in the movie, with bad people using each other, people falling for illusions, bad people trying to gain happiness by abusing kind people. I do hope that the end of the movie was supposed to show that the last unicorn left to be with her people, that seems like a fitting end, in contrast to being alone forever. The magician and maid couple were interesting, they were just hanging out and then set out together in the end. That seems a lot like modern relationships, without much thought and just going through the motions. Although they did seem to get on which was good.

What were your thoughts on the movie?
 
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@FactsAreDead I finally watched the last unicorn movie a day or so ago. I did find the animation quite nice, the quality is definitely there and I can see the connection with the future Ghibli films through the focus on natural things.

In terms of the story, it did seem to remind me a bit of the modern world. Where caring people try and search for other caring people, all the while being hunted and taken advantage of. There was a lot of personality observations in the movie, with bad people using each other, people falling for illusions, bad people trying to gain happiness by abusing kind people. I do hope that the end of the movie was supposed to show that the last unicorn left to be with her people, that seems like a fitting end, in contrast to being alone forever. The magician and maid couple were interesting, they were just hanging out and then set out together in the end. That seems a lot like modern relationships, without much thought and just going through the motions. Although they did seem to get on which was good.

What were your thoughts on the movie?
Glad you enjoyed the movie. I actually wrote about the movie on my website a long time ago, so I'll just copypaste it here (had to take the website offline because I'm scared of Google Font shenanigans):

For the longest time, I've been wishing for a certain type of whimsical fantasy in video games. The kind of fantasy that is neither the Lord of the Ring's high fantasy nor Dungeons and Dragons' realistic fantasy. There's only one movie that perfectly portrays the type of fantasy I desire, and that is "The Last Unicorn".

Keep reading to learn a bit more about a unique type of fantasy and why I'd love to see it be done in a video game.


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Skyrim, Dragon Age, Witcher 3, Drakensang and many more – when western developers make fantasy-games, it's always the same kind of fantasy. It is either closely following the Lord of the Rings or it's going for a more down-to-earth, realistic approach. I like these games, I've played them all, so this is not a rant against those titles that already exist. I want more of them, too.

However, all of these games fall into the same type. A fantasy where combat is the core of the gameplay, where fantasy plays out by dialogue with quest giving npcs and where everything comes down to loot, better equipment or checking some box in a quest menu. I understand that this is a convenient way to make a video game. Let players slash away at monsters, reward them with swords and armor that have a higher attack/defense value, and highlight the quest giver so the player can quickly continue on to the next mission. And yet there ought to be more. And there is.

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While he's not the main attraction of the movie, it can be claimed that Schmendrick the magician is the protagonist of "The Last Unicorn". He's who the audience is introduced to properly first and he's the one who's responsible both for good and bad and he's present at most of the important story developments. But Schmendrick is not a hero. Not even a reliable magician. He's weak, he's not handsome, all he has going for him is his determination to become a better magician, something that pushes him forward even when he's scared – and there's a lot to be scared of in the world he lives in. He tries his best, sometimes that works out, sometimes it's not enough. That is what makes Schmendrick such a likeable "hero" to me: He's not badass, he's traditionally brave. He's just someone seeking his place in the world, making mistakes and slowly, but surely learning more about both his passion as well as the things around him.

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Even though there is a lot to be scared of in this world, it doesn't come in the form of goblins, skeleton warriors or other monster. The dangers in "The Last Unicorn" present themselves as mysteries and riddles, as situations that need to be figured out. The movie is really old, so let me tell you about some examples of dangers that Schmendrick must overcome in its course: When he frees the title-giving unicorn, he also sets free a deadly harpy (a large, bird-like monster). Instead of fighting it, the unicorn tells him to not look back, to slowly keep walking away. And s he does and the harpy cannot see them, instead kills the other people who originally captured her. In another scene, the group wants to pass a secret way, but it's guarded the remains of a skeleton that loves alcohol. He doesn't have wine, but then realizes: The skeleton doesn't have eyes. So takes an empty bottle, acts like it was filled with fine wine and gives it the skeleton – that accepts the empty bottle, starts "drinking", even gets drunk from the non-existing wine, and opens the way for the hero group. And then, of course, there's the scene where the unicorn is hunted by the scary, giant red bull who's tasked by his master to hunt all unicorns in the world. The only solution that Schmendrick eventually came up with: Transform the unicorn into a human woman. The red bull doesn't hunt humans, so it saved her. For the price of her true nature.

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It's all these whimsical, creative, non-combative ideas that make the fantasy in "The Last Unicorn" feel so different. Heck, we need more talking door locks!

Now that I think about it, there is one video game that I played that comes pretty close to this type of fantasy: "The Last Guardian" from Ueda-san's Team ICO. That game featured similarly whimsical ideas and a hero that wasn't actively fighting, but making the best use of the situation that presented itself to him and his big four-legged friend. Don't get me wrong: It's not combat per se that ruins this type of fantasy that I'm describing. But when combat becomes the main focus, the whimsical side suffers.

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What's also at least as important as the gameplay side of things is the presentation. I mentioned it above: Schmendrick is not handsome. Not strong. And often times a little cowardly. Other characters have their good and bad sides, too. Even the oh-so-awe-inspiring unicorn isn't beyond flaws. And then you have the fantastic, poetic writing that somehow manages to avoid sounding pretentious. No, every line in this movie is memorable as it is befitting. I just rewatched it and what is true for the characters is true for the world design itself, too: It's unique, but not too much, not abstract, although it ventures dangerously close. You know that I always talk about Monolith Soft as the master of world design – "The Last Unicorn"'s world is totally different, but just as masterful. Whereas Monolith Soft-worlds make me want live there, "The Last Unicorn"'s world makes me want to explore its myths and secrets. One game that disappointed me in that regard was "The Witcher 3" that's world was so big, but also so empty and whenever you found something interesting, it came down to fighting monsters. However, there's also one example in the Witcher 3 that takes the whimsical route: The Red Baron's quest where you explore about three witches. How that quest went down was fantastic – well, until you had to fight them, but as I said, fighting is okay, too, as long as it isn't the focus.

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I feel like I could keep writing about how much I love the special type of whimsical fantasy in "The Last Unicorn", but I also feel like you either get it at this point or won't get it no matter how many more lines I add to this text. In any case, I needed to talk about it, because that movie and its characters remain special even to this day. And maybe some day there'll be a developer that says "hey, let's make a game with that kinda atmosphere". And I'll be overjoyed then.
 
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@Arkam and @FactsAreDead When did you both actually see the film? I've seen many retro kids films due to being born in the early 90s and going through the video store in those days, but I don't really remember seeing anything about the last unicorn back then. Was it bigger in the 80s or something?
 
@Arkam and @FactsAreDead When did you both actually see the film? I've seen many retro kids films due to being born in the early 90s and going through the video store in those days, but I don't really remember seeing anything about the last unicorn back then. Was it bigger in the 80s or something?

I would guess somewhere in the late 80's. I was a kid, so I have no idea what turned me on to it or of it was popular at the time. Was likely I just saw the VHS cover in the kids section at a video store or the base exchange. It was just one of those ones that 'clicked' with me as a kid. Kinda like The Dark Crystal. It was something that was well made, fantasy and had a complex (if not morose) story with conflicted characters. As a young kid I was drawn to that type of stuff.
 
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@Arkam and @FactsAreDead When did you both actually see the film? I've seen many retro kids films due to being born in the early 90s and going through the video store in those days, but I don't really remember seeing anything about the last unicorn back then. Was it bigger in the 80s or something?
Must have seen it in the mid-90s, since I'm born 1985. It was a movie that would always air around Easter or Christmas.
 
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There have been a lot of sci fi films in the last few years so I think people are just a little tired of them nowadays. The linguistics angle is an original idea but I think that the genre is a bit too oversaturated.

Hm. Maybe. But I can't think of any sci-fi movie remotely similar to Arrival other than contact and maybe Interstellar.
 
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