Disney's Peter Pan and Wendy Trailer (Spoilers - it looks like shit)

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I don't know if there's already a thread on this, but I came across this today as well.
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Check out what Japanese fans think of the new trailer:

Japanese Fans React to “Black Tinker Bell” in Peter Pan & Wendy

It hardly surprises anyone in the West to see Disney working on yet another live-action film, but fans in Japan are starting to wonder about Disney's incessant need to race-swap characters, with the latest being Yara Shahidi cast as Tinker Bell in Peter Pan & Wendy. https://www.youtube.co
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"Here we go again… enough already."

"Can we just stop expecting a movie that isn't politically correct from Disney already?"

"Disney sure has fallen…"

"What's with the serious tune? I can't get excited about it."

"Tinker Bell is like Disney's poster girl, it's shocking. I guess I'll think of it as an alternate world."

"Disney is just prioritizing adults over providing children with dreams."

"These young actors will receive hate from around the world before the movie gets released. I think something is wrong with the people making content for kids. The children's happiness is the most important, Disney. I want things to be innocent again."

"Changing for the worse. It's too much. I'm canceling once The Mandalorian ends."

"Just change the name to PoliCore Plus already."

"Yup. I'm quitting after The Mandalorian."

"It's blasphemy to the original work. There was never a black fairy, so how did that happen?"

"Is it really necessary to have this much diversity in the world of Peter Pan?"

"This Tinker Bell must be from Wakanda!"

"Blackwash."

"She looks more like Iridessa than Tinker bell lol."

"Political correctness is whatever, but I still feel it's wrong to change the setting like that."

"I think it's hilarious that they're trying to show how much they care about black people but ended up making things more racist instead."

"Hey there's also a slant-eye Asian LOL"
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Japan continuing to be BASED as fuck.
 
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FactsAreDead said:
There's so much forced diversity in this movie and its trailer that I first thought it was parody.

"You're not boys?" - "SO WHAT?!"

Literally one of the core plot points being that the Lost Boys have never seen a girl before ...
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I thought I recall the reason for no girls was that they became mature quicker to believe/stay in Neverland?
 
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What's funny about the "You're not all boys? SO WHAT" line is that they made sure that it got in the trailer. There are still people out here pretending forced diversity isn't a thing and that these choices aren't being made with an agenda.

And here they are making sure that you see every agenda-driven decision the movie has in the trailer itself. It's not even about slyly injecting it to further their cult's progress and getting people blindsided by it when they are in the theater anymore. They want you to know, in advance, that this movie is purposely pissing on the source material and SO WHAT. But no, there's no agenda...
 
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Hardensoul said:
I thought I recall the reason for no girls was that they became mature quicker to believe/stay in Neverland?
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pretty much, or that boys are dumber than girls basically. There being no lost girls was no misogny, it was literally that boys are dumb and girls are smarter.

I mean I guess ya it was from a different time where boys were seen as man children not wanting to grow up to just skirt responsibility all their lives, while woman were caring and motherly and knew when it was time to throw away dumb children stuff. Kind of the message of the book in a way. But who needs that lets just make Wendy super STRANG and the lost boys are the lost they/thems. Lets up the ante and make them all gay in a poly relationship because as we have been told children are sexual beings.

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What's funny about the "You're not all boys? SO WHAT" line is that they made sure that it got in the trailer. There are still people out here pretending forced diversity isn't a thing and that these choices aren't being made with an agenda.

And here they are making sure that you see every agenda-driven decision the movie has in the trailer itself. It's not even about slyly injecting it to further their cult's progress and getting people blindsided by it when they are in the theater anymore. They want you to know, in advance, that this movie is purposely pissing on the source material and SO WHAT. But no, there's no agenda...
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Exactly.

as I posted above, Hook had the chubby black kid but they didn't shove it in your face. He was one of the best lost boys, looks like you found your marbles...

Ruffio was Asian or somethign FFS and he was the leader of the LBs and no one cared. We all thought his hair was Fn cool back then.

Ruffio wasn't like hey Peter Panning finally we have gotten out from under the woke of your white supremacy and a BIPOC is leading the lost boys. And we diversified them and say his name TRAYVON MARTIN BLACK LIVES MATTER! The only people they discrimated against were laywers, and they deserve it.
 
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skintin said:
How I feel summed up: I'm literally preparing myself for a civil war everyday.
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As regards this latest case of Hollywood BS I saw this clip of an interview with The Critical Drinker earlier today, and he points out the fact that what people need to appreciate is, all of these things that have been coming out, and pissing people off have a lengthy production tail to them. They weren't knocked together last week, they were likely greenlit 3-4 years back before filming even began. I haven't watched the full interview yet, but I think it's an important observation.

 
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skintin said:
How I feel summed up: I'm literally preparing myself for a civil war everyday.
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Multiculturalism, all throughout history, always leads to either genocide, cultural erasure or strictly segregated and hierarchical societies.

As an example, the reason Brits are 'Anglo Saxons' is due to the post Roman Britons hiring European Angle and Saxon mercenaries and labourers to come over and work for them, who eventually numbered in their thousands, and decided to join forces and overthrow the Britons that had imported them.

This is why Scotland, Wales and Cornwall all have celtic heritage and England doesn't, because that's tracked using the Y chromosome, and the Angles and Saxons murdered all the male English Britons and took their women as slave wives.

If you have no shared culture, then you see people as 'other', and as soon as times get tough, or there's an opportunity to put 'us' ahead of 'them', humans have proven they absolutely will turn to violence. It is peak utopianist nievity and midwitted ignorance of history to believe diversity is a strength.
 
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Stilton Disco said:
Multiculturalism, all throughout history, always leads to either genocide, cultural erasure or strictly segregated and hierarchical societies.

As an example, the reason Brits are 'Anglo Saxons' is due to the post Roman Britons hiring European Angle and Saxon mercenaries and labourers to come over and work for them, who eventually numbered in their thousands, and decided to join forces and overthrow the Britons that had imported them.

This is why Scotland, Wales and Cornwall all have celtic heritage and England doesn't, because that's tracked using the Y chromosome, and the Angles and Saxons murdered all the male English Britons and took their women as slave wives.

If you have no shared culture, then you see people as 'other', and as soon as times get tough, or there's an opportunity to put 'us' ahead of 'them', humans have proven they absolutely will turn to violence. It is peak utopianist nievity and midwitted ignorance of history to believe diversity is a strength.
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Didn't know that about Briton. But he does make sense when you look at history with some of the known Empires that cover vast regions. Macedonia, Rome, Mongolia etc…

They cover such diverse culture, beliefs and region that eventually there are in fighting from within that they destroyed themselves.

I'm afraid what we are seeing currently with the US states is in similar trajectory. I hope that we are able to reverse course soon!
 
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Hardensoul said:
Didn't know that about Briton. But he does make sense when you look at history with some of the known Empires that cover vast regions. Macedonia, Rome, Mongolia etc…

They cover such diverse culture, beliefs and region that eventually there are in fighting from within that they destroyed themselves.

I'm afraid what we are seeing currently with the US states is in similar trajectory. I hope that we are able to reverse course soon!
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Too late. Just hope to not have to go through bloodshed.
 
Hardensoul said:
Didn't know that about Briton. But he does make sense when you look at history with some of the known Empires that cover vast regions. Macedonia, Rome, Mongolia etc…

They cover such diverse culture, beliefs and region that eventually there are in fighting from within that they destroyed themselves.

I'm afraid what we are seeing currently with the US states is in similar trajectory. I hope that we are able to reverse course soon!
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A core tennent of Anglo Liberalism, both in the US and Great Britain, was the creation of overarching umbrella cultures, based on those of the English, that allowed a shared identity and cultural practices while allowing room for individual regional differences and friendly competition.

In Britain, this allowed first the counties of England, then the Scots, Welsh, Cornish and to a lesser extent Irish nations to find common ground as British citizens, until finally creating a unified empire that spread English values across 80% of the globe, ushering in the most peaceful and prosperous era humanity has ever known (well, outside of the world wars, because Germans, and communism born out of European secular liberalism).

This English monoculturlism was continued by the US, who are similarly not just Texans, New Yorkers and so on, but also Americans, united by a shared philosophy born in England, but able to create a brotherhood amongst any peoples, from any nation or state, willing to embrace it.

We are loosing that brotherhood, and with it the peace and prosperity it fostered.
 
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skintin said:
Too late. Just hope to not have to go through bloodshed.
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I sure hope not, I still want to believe and hope. Life has not always been kind, being a refugee and faced hardships but I got to keep moving looking forward.

Living in US has taught I want to fight for this and especially our constitution. It's the best rule/law of the land.
 
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regawdless said:
I love how it's always called "review bombed" when people genuinely hate the movie and what it's doing.
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They never talk about modern audiences review bombing classics on IMDB. Like Gone with the Wind or any John Wayne movie where the people just scream at how much they hate John Wayne despite a movie like The Searchers being one of the premiere cinematographic masterpiece which has been copied continuously in the modern era.

If the writers turned a beloved IP into an intersectional social justice buffet, then expect poor ratings.

I can objectively look at a film if it is good or bad due to writing or the art behind framing the shots and hate every actor in the film due to their politics and activism. What I won't do is go back and put a poor review on a movie that is decades old, like Hunt for the Red October because Alec Baldwin shot coworkers and didn't serve time while he attacks people he doesn't know on twitter. The movie is good even if Alec Baldwin is a shitbird.
 
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Finally, so important.


Disney Finally Fixes Peter Pan's Controversial Tiger Lily Story After 70 Years

Disney's original portrayal of Tiger Lily in Peter Pan (1953) was widely criticized. But Tiger Lily in Peter Pan & Wendy (2023) is above reproach.

The indigenous characters were depicted as racially insensitive caricatures, and the song "What Makes the Red Man Red" is a clear example of blatant racism. However, it's heartening to see that Disney has finally taken notice of the outrage and made a positive change in Peter Pan & Wendy. Alyssa Wapanatâhk's portrayal of Tiger Lily, with authentic Cree language, dress, and craftsmanship, is a significant step toward the respectful representation of indigenous peoples.
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Finally, so important.


Disney Finally Fixes Peter Pan's Controversial Tiger Lily Story After 70 Years

Disney's original portrayal of Tiger Lily in Peter Pan (1953) was widely criticized. But Tiger Lily in Peter Pan & Wendy (2023) is above reproach.
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the obvious question is why has Disney been using racist caricatures for so many decades? Doesn't this make Disney racist?

funny how there's no logical consistency. They'll blame someone for society's problems because they were born with white skin and a penis, but if their favorite cartoon company has been directly responsible for the modern so-called "racist culture" then that's actually not a big deal, just something to spend MORE money on to see the racially-corrected version.
 
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All this shit is doing is making people who were indifferent wanna become racist. I already see people taking their annoyance at this kind of shit to extremes.

All this DEI shit is meant to do is divide people further. I remember in the 90s and early 2000s how we were moving past this shit, now theyre intentionally pushing people to the edge.
 
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FactsAreDead said:
I can't wait until all those old nazi-movies get remade and treat nazis respectfully. /s
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I know you put an /s there but it wouldn't surprise me. After all, the route to public acceptance is often through comedy, and we've had quite a few "Nazi comedies" in the last 20 years, ranging from horror schlock to straight-up comedies with Hitler as the star. His viewpoints are boilerplate European race realism, that's the dirty secret of that era of intellectual history. Yes he was a satanic maniac who took that thinking further than most, but he did it with the applause of the German people and even the respect of other Western nations up to the point of WW2.
 
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I know you put an /s there but it wouldn't surprise me. After all, the route to public acceptance is often through comedy, and we've had quite a few "Nazi comedies" in the last 20 years, ranging from horror schlock to straight-up comedies with Hitler as the star. His viewpoints are boilerplate European race realism, that's the dirty secret of that era of intellectual history. Yes he was a satanic maniac who took that thinking further than most, but he did it with the applause of the German people and even the respect of other Western nations up to the point of WW2.
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What's that Taika Waititi? Fuck butchered his name! Anyways didn't he made that comedy with Hitler as sorta hero? Not sure, I didn't see it. Trailer was too out there for me. It even had strange name that didn't seem it was about Hitler or anything about Nazi!

But it got glowing reviews from critics!

Maybe I'm overthinking, just anything that makes Hitler less evil, I just roll my eyes!

Edit: JoJo Rabbit is movie! I'm probably wrong maybe it condemns Nazis! It just look weird to me.
 
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Dacon said:
All this shit is doing is making people who were indifferent wanna become racist. I already see people taking their annoyance at this kind of shit to extremes.

All this DEI shit is meant to do is divide people further. I remember in the 90s and early 2000s how we were moving past this shit, now theyre intentionally pushing people to the edge.
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You aren't wrong. Ive seen people change alot.
 
regawdless said:
Finally, so important.


Disney Finally Fixes Peter Pan's Controversial Tiger Lily Story After 70 Years

Disney's original portrayal of Tiger Lily in Peter Pan (1953) was widely criticized. But Tiger Lily in Peter Pan & Wendy (2023) is above reproach.
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I watched the original cartoon and even back then I thought the indians were laughably racist caricatures. Even so, I wouldn't give a shit if they gave them a respectable portrayal here. This movie looks like shit anyway so why should I care?

Question though, how were the Indians portrayed in the book by J.M. Barrie? I'm embarrassed to say that I've never read the original Peter Pan.
 
Good review, worth reading.

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MOVIE REVIEW: 'Peter Pan and Wendy' — A Very Different Story - WDW News Today

A daily-updated resource for news and information on the Disney resort around the world.
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Here are the biggest changes compared to the OG movie, spoilers, obviously:

  • Tiger Lily, in this version, is never a damsel in distress. She is basically Rambo-lina. In fact, it's John and Michael that are kidnapped by Hook, not Tiger Lily. Peter does not save Tiger Lily. Tiger Lily saves Peter.
  • To be more inclusive, The Lost Boys are both boys and girls.
  • Tinker Bell does not betray Peter and The Lost Boys by leading Hook to their hideout. Wendy sings a song, and Hook hears it from miles away. Tink is nothing but good in this version.
  • James Hook was once a Lost Boy and Peter's best friend. He started missing his mother, and Peter banished him from the Lost Boys and Neverland forever.
  • Wendy does walk the plank in this version, but she is not saved by Peter. She is saved by Tinker Bell. Tink gives Wendy pixie dust that makes her fly, and Wendy basically becomes Peter Pan for the rest of the movie. According to Hook, "She has the boy's magic." Wendy replies, "This magic belongs to no boy," given that both Peter and Wendy need the pixie dust from Tink to fly.
  • At one point, Peter can't fly and is falling to his death, and Wendy saves him. Peter never saves Wendy.
  • Peter once lived in The Darling's home before they lived in it. That's why he visits so often.
  • Peter apologizes to James (Hook) for treating him so poorly. Soon after, it appears James falls to his death, and he is presumably eaten by the crocodile. Just before the movie ends, you see James and Smee floating on some of the ship's debris. Peter comes back to rescue James, and they become friends again.
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regawdless said:
Good review, worth reading.

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A daily-updated resource for news and information on the Disney resort around the world.
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Here are the biggest changes compared to the OG movie, spoilers, obviously:
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THAT is the biggest pile of SHITE that I've had the misfortune of reading. They've basically raped and twisted all the great and memorable things about JM Barrie's story for the sake of being WOKE. Fuck you Disney.
 
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Honestly would have preferred a Hook 2.

They could of had Peter Pannings daughter go back to neverland again blah blah blah. Bring back Julia Roberts and digitial Robin Williams.

At least they would just be ruining a 20 year old Speilberg movie and not a classic novel.

Cant wait for the remake of the garden of eden where Adam tells eve to eat the apple and then Eve beats up god and cuts of Adams dong turning him into Adina and she has a lesbian relationship.
 
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You know, by making Tinkerbell a nicer fairy who doesn't betray Peter in this version, Disney has robbed us of one the greatest scenes in the book and the 2003 movie.


Then again, I don't expect the hacks they hired to do this scene justice. So it's just as well.
 
It looks really good and since it's aimed at children, it will help teach a new generation that women can be anything they want to be - including boys!

It's a lesson that our next phase of society desperately needs, so I'm glad that they are sacrificing potential profits to achieve this humanist goal.
 
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Hardensoul said:
What's that Taika Waititi? Fuck butchered his name! Anyways didn't he made that comedy with Hitler as sorta hero? Not sure, I didn't see it. Trailer was too out there for me. It even had strange name that didn't seem it was about Hitler or anything about Nazi!

But it got glowing reviews from critics!

Maybe I'm overthinking, just anything that makes Hitler less evil, I just roll my eyes!

Edit: JoJo Rabbit is movie! I'm probably wrong maybe it condemns Nazis! It just look weird to me.
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Jojo Rabbit is a great movie but no it's not a movie where he gets to be an hero at the end.
 
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It looks really good and since it's aimed at children, it will help teach a new generation that women can be anything they want to be - including boys!

It's a lesson that our next phase of society desperately needs, so I'm glad that they are sacrificing potential profits to achieve this humanist goal.
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Tinkerbell just needs to be a trans man now! That'll smash the patriarchy! First transgender fairy ever put into a film! Perfection
 
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